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Title: Will of Thomas Scatchard - 1617
Post by: mezentia on Thursday 11 November 21 17:19 GMT (UK)
Despite having a good image of this will provided by the Borthwick Institute, I am finding this perhaps the most difficult document to deal with that I have encountered so far.

I have made a first pass, and then gone back to try and decipher the bits that I couldn't the first time, trying to follow the advide given by Bruce Durie in his book Understanding Documents for Genealogy & Local History, but I still need help.

The first area I'm having difficulty with is on the attachment. I have so far:

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moste certaine and the tyme [??] [??] doe [con?e ] and make this my last
will and testament in manner and forme following ffirst I comend my soul unto
the handes of almighty god [?oe?g?e] it [s?pen?ge]and assured by [be??nige]
by and to [??] the death [??] and passion of Jesus Christ the onley [sonne?]
and my [sole?] [?a?] to gane free y[e?] and [??] kind forgiveness of all my sinns and
offence{s} and to be made [? ... ? ^th] by his [spiretual?] death
and blood shed [? … ?] and [practiced?] and I will that my body be
Interred and buried in the church or churchyard att Otley aforesaid at the sight


It's quite a long will, so I will post more bits as and when (not if  ;D) I get stuck .
Title: Re: Will of Thomas Scatchard - 1617
Post by: Vance Mead on Thursday 11 November 21 17:40 GMT (UK)
Here's a start. One or two bits I couldn't get.

moste certaine and the tyme uncertaine doe constitute and make this my last
will and testament in manner and forme following ffirst I comend my soul unto
the handes of almighty god who gave it hopinge and assuredly believing
by and through the death merritt and passion of Jesus Christ the onley saviour
and my sole saviour to have free y[e?] and [??] kind forgiveness of all my sinns and
offence{s} and to be made partaker of [? ... ? which by his [spiretual?] death
and blood shed he hath purchased and [practiced?] and I will that my body be
Interred and buried in the church or churchyard att Otley aforesaid at the sight
Title: Re: Will of Thomas Scatchard - 1617
Post by: horselydown86 on Thursday 11 November 21 17:58 GMT (UK)
Vance has posted while I worked on this.  I don't have time to revise it so apologize for some cross over with Vance's work:

...and the tyme uncer taine doe constitute...

...god whoe gave it hopeinge and assuredly beleveinge...

...by and through the death merritt(es) and...... his onely saviour...

...and my sole savio(ur) to have free p(ar)don and forgivenesse...

...to be [make?] p(ar)taker of those celestial ioyes w(hi)ch by his precius death...

...he hath purchased and practiced and...
Title: Re: Will of Thomas Scatchard - 1617
Post by: mezentia on Friday 12 November 21 13:54 GMT (UK)
Next bit:

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and discretion of my ^[?ue?]^ freindes [L?efolkes] and [which?] [??] and for these worldly
goods which god of his goodness hath lente to me I will they bi bistoed in [f?ce] followinge
ffirst I will that all sute^s fo{r} debts [which?] I owe to any manner of [??] be paid and my
funeral expenses discharged out of my [??] goodes and after debts paid and funeral
expences discharged I will that the residue of all my said goodes chattels and debts
be bestowed in manner as followeth ffirst I give and bequeath to Richard
Scatchard my farm my [?layge] or gheldynge and one Coulte or foule of [a{n}yeaid] ould
[which?] I have Item I give and bequeath to Elizabeth Scatchyed my daughter the lease
of [??] [groymdes?] of myne called [Littel Dubbinge?] [? ...? ]
[??] of Otley aforesaide beinge of the demise [??] or assignement of
John Skipton of [??] in the said county gentleman [Esquire?] and to hould

Title: Re: Will of Thomas Scatchard - 1617
Post by: horselydown86 on Friday 12 November 21 15:02 GMT (UK)
...of my ^[loveinge?]^ freindes kinsefolkes and Neighbours and for those...

...hathe lente me I will they be bestowed in sorte followeing...

...that all such [
? - may be crossed out] debt(es) as I owe to any manner of p(er)sons...

...out of my whole goodes...

...Scatchard my sonn my Nagge or geldinge and one Coulte or foale of a yeare ould
w(hi)ch I have...

...of those [growndes? / groundes?] of myne called litle stubbinge lyeinge w(i)thin the towneshipp or
Territoryes of Otley.........demise grannte or...

...Skipton of Pontefract in......To have and to hould...
Title: Re: Will of Thomas Scatchard - 1617
Post by: mezentia on Monday 15 November 21 23:52 GMT (UK)
Next bit ...

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John Skipton of Pontefract in the said county gentleman to have and to hould
all the groundes profitts and advantages thereto belongeinge and in the said [??]
of assign{m}ent or lease mentioned or specified to be assigned unto me and my assignes
[??] and [??] thence [appur?]and any [??] thereof to the said Elizabeth
Scatchard and her assignes from the day of my death for [d??ge] and untill the
end and [?me] of the tyme and [??] [therein?] to me grannted and also all my
estate [??] title [??] and further [demands?] [? … ?] in and to
fully and freely [??] I the said Thomas Scatchard [??] [?ought]
[? …?] I give and bequeath to [??] Scatchard my
Title: Re: Will of Thomas Scatchard - 1617
Post by: horselydown86 on Tuesday 16 November 21 03:31 GMT (UK)
...the said wryteinge...

...and myne assignes
with all and singler theire appurt(e)n(a)nc(es) and ev(er)y p(ar)te thereof...

...for dureinge and untill...

...end and tearme of the tyme and tearme therein...

...estate challendge title tennant right and further demannde whatsoever in and to
[the same?] as fully and freelye as I the said Thomas Scatchard might [or?] ought
[to have?] had the same..............to Ursula Scatchard...


ADDED:

Just a minor point: in the third line it is written:  assignem(en)t
Title: Re: Will of Thomas Scatchard - 1617
Post by: mezentia on Wednesday 17 November 21 11:58 GMT (UK)
This is the last part of this will:

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Neece my best Cowe And whereas certanie landes of myne lyeinge at Waekfield in the said county
of Yorke holden of Coppy accordinge to the Custome of the manner there beinge [??] [eight? ] [pounde?]
by [yeare?] or better and certaine other landes at Otley [holden?] by Coppy called [C?]addye Close
in [??e] field [??] and the little Bradleyes being worthe by estimat{i}on [ffive?] [pounde?] by [heare?]
or better [??] to [?end] and come to the said Richard my sonn [? … ?] thereof alsoe I give [??]
accordinge to the Custome at Otley afforesaid one Close of lande lyeinge [??] called
Rammer pitts [??] ffifty shillings by yeare or thereabouts to the use of the said Elizabeth
my daughter if it please god to call me out of this vale of miseries at this tyme and by this
sicknesse for the better helpe of the said Elizabeth my daughter I give unto her all the residue
of my said goodes & chattells and [??] not given disposed or bequeathed by this my said will
and lastly I ordeyne and make the said Elizabeth my said daughter sole executrix of this my
said last will and testam^t And I appoynte Andrew Scatchard of Waekefeild aforesaid my
loveinge brother [??] of this my said last will and testam^t And I will that the said Andrew
my said brother have the [tuition?] and educati{o}n of my said son and daughter above named
hopeinge that my said brother will faithfully and truely discharge this trust reposed in him
These beinge witnesses of this my said last will and testam^t viz William [??] Robert Turner and James fflopwer [??] et decimo die onensis Decembris Anno [di?]
W?llimo Sexton^? Decimo septimis WM [??] ?etamis Decanatus de Aynstie [??] [??]
X [? …?] nommit [? … ?] fuit [? … ?]


Title: Re: Will of Thomas Scatchard - 1617
Post by: horselydown86 on Wednesday 17 November 21 14:19 GMT (UK)
I have done to the end of the English text.  I'm not sure of the first letter in the name of the close in line 3, but don't think it's a C.  The best I can suggest is perhaps an E but I'm far from confident even in that.

...beinge worth Eight pounde
by yeare or better......houlden by Coppy called [?addye] Close...

...in Melshefeild there and.........ffive pound by yeare
or better are to discend and come to the said Richard my sonn  And whereas alsoe I have [surrendred?]...

...lyeinge there [and?] called the
Rammer pitt(es) worthy [
sic] ffifty...

...chattells and debt(es) not given...

...brother sup(er)viso(ur) of this...

...have the tuishion...

...William Harrison [Clerke?]...

...James fflesher with others...
Title: Re: Will of Thomas Scatchard - 1617
Post by: mezentia on Wednesday 17 November 21 15:09 GMT (UK)
Thanks, horselydown, I truly appreciate your help in deciphering these wills, and just hope that I'm not pushing my luck a bit too far when I need help with the next one, that of Mauger Scatchard, when I've had the time to try and assimilate the information gleaned from Thomas' will.

I knew of Thomas' two children, but the appearance of a brother Andrew opens new avenues of research, particulary with the references to Andrew being of Wakefield and Thomas' holding lands there. The other surprise is the appearance of Thomas' niece, Ursula, of whom I had no previous knowledge. I can only assume that this has to be the daughter of Nicholas Scatchard, baptised in Calverley in 1594, and thus that Nicholas is a brother to Thomas. Calverley, if my geography serves me right, is not too distant from Pontefract, another location mentioned in the Will.
Title: Re: Will of Thomas Scatchard - 1617
Post by: horselydown86 on Wednesday 17 November 21 15:31 GMT (UK)
Here is the first part of the Latin:

...et decimo die mensis Decembris Anno d(omi)ni
Mill(es)imo sexcen(tesim)o decimo septimo M(aste)r fflathers decanus decanatus de Aynstie...


I think we had the name fflathers a month or two back?  Here this one appears to be the dean of the deanery at Aynstie.
Title: Re: Will of Thomas Scatchard - 1617
Post by: Bookbox on Wednesday 17 November 21 18:28 GMT (UK)
Here is the first part of the Latin:

...et decimo die mensis Decembris Anno d(omi)ni
Mill(es)imo sexcen(tesim)o decimo septimo M(aste)r fflathers decanus decanatus de Aynstie...


And the rest of it ...

... cert(ificavit) de

p(ro)bac(i)one h(uius)m(odi) test(ament)i p(er) testes nominat(os) iurat(os) etc(etera) Comissaq(ue) fuit ad(ministraci)o bono(rum) eiusdem defunct(i) ...

... and on the tenth day of the month of December in the year of the Lord one thousand six hundred and seventeen, Master Flathers, dean of the Deanery of Aynstie, certified regarding the approval of this will by the witnesses named and sworn etc., and administration of the goods of the same deceased was granted

(Is there any more? Name of the executor, etc?)
Title: Re: Will of Thomas Scatchard - 1617
Post by: mezentia on Wednesday 17 November 21 19:01 GMT (UK)
Thank you Bookbox. What is on the last image is all that I have been given. If you think there should be more, I will go back to the Borthwick and ask them to check.The executrix is, from the Will, Thomas' daughter Elizabeth, but Thomas also requires his brother Andrew to be supervisor. Elizabeth would have been 10 years old when her father died, and Richard about 13, so the intent of the will as I understand it is that Andrew is to act as the children's guardian until they come of age, and hence the reference to their tuition and education. I suspect Elizabeth would not legally be able to act as executrix anyway as she would have been too young, and can't help but wonder why she was chosen over Richard. Thomas' wife Margaret died in 1612 which is why she is not mentioned. The youngest child, Jane, was born 1610 and died 1611.

I'm trying now to identify the locations mentioned. So far I have found only Little Stubbings, which is a farm to the east of Otley. In respect of lands "houlden by Coppy", Nottingham University website has the following:

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Smaller landholdings within manors were held by copyhold tenure. Title deeds for these pieces of land do not exist in quite the same form as for freehold land. This is because copyhold land was technically owned by the Lord or Lady of the Manor. The people who actually lived on and farmed manorial lands were only tenants of the manor. They held their land by custom, which varied between manors.

I don't think the lands in Wakefield will be identified easily, so now it's time to pore over old maps to find:

Eaddye/Caddye Close in Melshfield
Little Bradleys
Rammer Pitts


Title: Re: Will of Thomas Scatchard - 1617
Post by: Bookbox on Wednesday 17 November 21 19:36 GMT (UK)
What is on the last image is all that I have been given. If you think there should be more, I will go back to the Borthwick and ask them to check.

As the ending seems a little abrupt, I thought there might be a few more words, but perhaps not, as the last line of the page is unused. It depends on the format used by this particular jurisdiction – they’re all different. If nothing is in doubt, I wouldn’t worry about it, but if you want to double-check, you could ask the Borthwick.

If you’re looking for information on copyhold tenancies, you might want to see if any manorial records survive for the area at the relevant period. I'm afraid I haven’t been following this thread closely enough to know which parish it is. You can search the Manorial Documents Register here ...

https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/manor-search