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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Gloucestershire => Topic started by: Kessa on Tuesday 16 November 21 04:15 GMT (UK)
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Some of the parish entries I've found for my family at Rodmarton in the early 1700s state they were "of Four Mile Bottom". Would anyone know where this is?
I've searched Google with no results and some of the Library of Scotland digital maps again without success. I've noticed Jacament's Bottom on the maps and wondered if this would be the same place?
Thanks
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Looking at this site it refers to a Four Mile stone being located near to Jacament's Bottom so I wonder if the Four Mile Bottom might be a located adjacent to the stone?? https://www.google.co.uk/books/edition/Journals_of_the_House_of_Commons/ZRlDAAAAcAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=Four+Mile+Bottom+tetbury+road&pg=PA642&printsec=frontcover
When googling have seen a mention of Four Mile Cottages on the Tetbury Road.
Kay
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This map shows a nearby mile stone 4 miles from Cirencester :-\ https://maps.nls.uk/view/101454222#zoom=5&lat=4467&lon=7372&layers=BT
Kay
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The stone appears to be shown as 4 on this map https://maps.nls.uk/view/101168585#zoom=7&lat=7967&lon=2820&layers=BT
Kay
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Thanks very much for your replies Kay. My only worry is that the four mile stone appears to be in the parish of Coates, not Rodmarton. But I suppose they could have lived there and had the children baptised at Rodmarton. What is interesting is that the matriarch of the family in the early 1700s was called Jacament.
Do you know what the term "Bottom" means besides the obvious one?
Thanks
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I thought it might refer to a low lying meadow :-\
Kay
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Also found this reference - a bottom - in geographical terms - simply derives from the Old English for broad river valley or valley floor https://getoutside.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/guides/bottoms-pants-twatts-weird-british-place-names/
Kay
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"The Icknield Way" by A L Collins has this reference on page 22:
"There is a “Welsh Lane” in the Cotswolds turning out of the Gloucester road, three or four miles from Cirencester, and going up the hill by Four Mile Bottom towards Barnsley"
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I think this is the Welsh Lane/Way referred to - to the north of Cirencester https://maps.nls.uk/view/101453808#zoom=4&lat=2183&lon=5184&layers=BT
Kay
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Looks like there was more than one Four Mile Bottom. I don't think the Barnsley one is the one I am interested in. Too far from Rodmarton.
Thanks Kay for all your input, it is much appreciated.
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You are welcome Kessa. I always find geographical problems fascinating ;D
Kay
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Using Gmaps Jackaments Bottom is 5.6 mls from Tetbury and 6 mls from Cirencester.
Looking at an old map though Jakaments Bottom appears to be only about 4.5 mls from Cirencester.
Given that they are the 2 most likely places in the area to have a mileage reference stone, I would think 4ml bottom stone could be 1.5 ml nearer to Tetbury or 2 ml nearer Cirencester
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The point at which the lane to Rodmarton leaves the A433, Tetbury to Cirencester road, is almost exactly 4 miles from Tetbury. The road here is at a low point, compared with most of the rest of the route, and I imagine, before modern highway construction, may well have provided difficult passsge during inclement weather, hence attracting an unofficial identification.
PS. It appears to be at the bottom of a stretch of road named as Haresdown Hill from Cirencester and then climbs up again towards Tetbury.
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Thank you, I feel that Brentor Boy has nailed it as the family next lived at Culkerton which is close to the four mile distance location.
Thanks to everyone for their interest.