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Title: Edward Thomas beer marriage
Post by: ryan37 on Saturday 20 November 21 19:17 GMT (UK)
Hi folks

Wonder if anyone can find a marriage of Edward Thomas beer in England to Lizzie or Elizabeth simpson ?

Also a death of Elizabeth in 1933 london ?

Ryan
Title: Re: Edward Thomas beer marriage
Post by: osprey on Saturday 20 November 21 19:23 GMT (UK)
marriage
Elizabeth Simpson june qtr 1911 Willesden vol 3a pg 519 with Edward T Beer on the same page

death reg
Elizabeth Beer 44 march qtr 1933 Hammersmith vol 1a pg 398
Title: Re: Edward Thomas beer marriage
Post by: ryan37 on Saturday 20 November 21 20:11 GMT (UK)
Hi thanks for the details is there any more on Elizabeth or is it just basic details ?

I also can you see a marriage of Edward thomas beer to lilias grant

Ryan
Title: Re: Edward Thomas beer marriage
Post by: osprey on Saturday 20 November 21 20:31 GMT (UK)
just the GRO index, haven't spotted a parish marriage as yet.

Edward T Beer dec qtr 1933 Brentford vol 3a pg 623 to Lilias Grant

Possible 1911 census for Elizabeth
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XW4W-HPN
Title: Re: Edward Thomas beer marriage
Post by: ryan37 on Saturday 20 November 21 20:47 GMT (UK)
Thank you

Is there a way to see the cause of death of Elizabeth in 1933

Ryan
Title: Re: Edward Thomas beer marriage
Post by: osprey on Saturday 20 November 21 20:51 GMT (UK)
only if you buy the death certificate.
Title: Re: Edward Thomas beer marriage
Post by: ryan37 on Saturday 20 November 21 20:53 GMT (UK)
I’m
Finding the marriages very strange as Edward’s first wife was an auntie of his second

Thanks for your input , where do I buy/source that certs ?

Ryan
Title: Re: Edward Thomas beer marriage
Post by: osprey on Saturday 20 November 21 21:01 GMT (UK)
Direct from the GRO and you can get a pdf which is cheaper than a paper certificate

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/login.asp

It could be that Lilias arrived in the Beer household to look after the children. She is on the electoral register as Lilias Grant at the same address as Edward in 1933.
Title: Re: Edward Thomas beer marriage
Post by: ryan37 on Saturday 20 November 21 21:05 GMT (UK)
Fascinating would you be able to share that link to see that electrol roll please

Thanks for your help
It’s amazing
Title: Re: Edward Thomas beer marriage
Post by: osprey on Saturday 20 November 21 21:12 GMT (UK)
it's not on a free source, you need to be subscribed to Ancestry.
Title: Re: Edward Thomas beer marriage
Post by: ryan37 on Saturday 20 November 21 21:17 GMT (UK)
Thanks I see that now on ancestry

Would it list any children ?

Ryan
Title: Re: Edward Thomas beer marriage
Post by: KGarrad on Saturday 20 November 21 21:21 GMT (UK)
The Electoral Roll is a list of people entitled to vote ;)
Title: Re: Edward Thomas beer marriage
Post by: ryan37 on Saturday 20 November 21 21:22 GMT (UK)
Thanks for that , I was wondering if there was anyway to find children of the first marriage ?

Ryan
Title: Re: Edward Thomas beer marriage
Post by: KGarrad on Saturday 20 November 21 21:24 GMT (UK)
Try using FreeBMD.org.uk (it's free!).

Surname Beer; Mother's maiden name Simpson.
Title: Re: Edward Thomas beer marriage
Post by: spendlove on Sunday 21 November 21 11:51 GMT (UK)
Hi,

There is one child from his second marriage,

Audrey M Sept Q 1936 Brentford, Mothers M Name Grant

https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

They are on 1939 register, search using Audrey Beer, Ancestry has incorrect transcription for the mother, unfortunately older children are blanked out.

Spendlove.

Title: Re: Edward Thomas beer marriage
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 21 November 21 13:37 GMT (UK)
Direct from the GRO and you can get a pdf which is cheaper than a paper certificate

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/login.asp



You cannot get PDF's for marriages
Title: Re: Edward Thomas beer marriage
Post by: osprey on Sunday 21 November 21 13:45 GMT (UK)
this was in reference to a death certificate as poster wanted to know cause of death.

 :)
Title: Re: Edward Thomas beer marriage
Post by: ryan37 on Sunday 21 November 21 13:50 GMT (UK)
Thank you , is it easy enough to acquire the death certificate via GRO?

I had a look and appears I have to submit a reference number etc

It’s not a search facility and tick the right box , I have to use information from another source to request the cert?
Then wait for them to agree I have the right info ?
I’m
Very Keen to pay for Elizabeth beer 1933 death certificate

Ryan
Title: Re: Edward Thomas beer marriage
Post by: ryan37 on Sunday 21 November 21 13:53 GMT (UK)
Thanks for the additional information provided today Aswell

It’s greatly appreciated

Ryan
Title: Re: Edward Thomas beer marriage
Post by: osprey on Sunday 21 November 21 13:57 GMT (UK)
very straightforward to order.

In addition to her name, you need the quarter and year - march qtr 1933 and the GRO reg vol 1a page 398, which I gave you in earlier post. The order ref is for you so just make up something.