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Old Photographs, Recognition, Handwriting Deciphering => Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition => Topic started by: sueellio on Thursday 25 November 21 23:42 GMT (UK)
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Please can anyone make out the handwriting entrie for marital status and occupation for Emma Rogers-Head-39 ? She's 3 rd from the bottom
The National Archives; Kew, London, England; 1871 England Census; RG10/1348/74 p 20
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It says Mar...married, in occupation it says Husbands......I can't make out two words followed by Ireland I think.
Carol
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Emma is married.
In the occupation column it has a comment about her husband.
"Husband H.... ..... Ireland"
When I enlarge it to see better, it just loses focus.
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Married. Husband is a Hay binder now in Ireland
Add - With the punctuation.
Husband. Hay binder. "now in Ireland"
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This is a clearer snip
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In case you dont have this;
Mmn of girls was Smith.
FreeBMD has a Marriage Reg 1865 John Charles ROGERS/Emma SMITH on same page.
M/C is on Anc 9 Jul 1865,St Andrew, Enfield, Enfield
John a Labourer, Father JAMES a Labourer
Emmas Father WILLIAM a Coachman
George and Sophia Rogers are witnesses
1891 we have;
John C Rogers 47 Head
Emma Rogers 39 Wife
1901 they are together also.
From what I can see Johns mmn was MUNNS
Trish :)
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It says Mar...married, in occupation it says Husbands......I can't make out two words followed by Ireland I think.
Carol
Yoo hoo! That's what I thought too😁 Been looking for a Soph* Ro(d)gers who might have an Ireland connection for over a month now. Initially picked this Sophia up on an 1891 census where she's a servant working for someone who was born in Ireland .
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In case you dont have this;
Mmn of girls was Smith.
FreeBMD has a Marriage Reg 1865 John Charles ROGERS/Emma SMITH on same page.
M/C is on Anc 9 Jul 1865,St Andrew, Enfield, Enfield
John a Labourer, Father JAMES a Labourer
Emmas Father WILLIAM a Coachman
George and Sophia Rogers are witnesses
1891 we have;
John C Rogers 47 Head
Emma Rogers 39 Wife
1901 they are together also.
From what I can see Johns mmn was MUNNS
Trish :)
Yes,thank you. I found that marriage on BMD, but not seen the register. So John's mother was called Sophia, or maybe a sister?
As I said, it's a Soph* Rogers born about 1870 with an Irish connection I'm searching for.
A Soph* Rogers gave birth to an illegitimate child in Lambeth workhouse in 1891 and possibly the same woman a second time in 1893.
The first child is definitely the grandfather of someone I'm helping. She knew nothing about his early life, except that he always said he and a brother ( no name known) came over from Ireland when they were young.
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I am a little confused no one on that Census is born Ireland?
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What does it give for Emma;s husband, Trish?
He could have just be in Ireland rather than being born there, but it seems odd :-\
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I presume yo mean the Sophia Rogers born c 1870 Cheshurst ?.
1901 under Sophia Peare 1872 Cheshurst
Married to Fred William Pease?
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Hi Gadget.
On later Census John Rogers is born 1844 Cheshunt
EDIT yes looks to me he was just in Ireland probably working.
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Sorry have to sign out now back tomorrow :)
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I presume yo mean the Sophia Rogers born c 1870 Cheshurst ?.
1901 under Sophia Peare 1872 Cheshurst
Married to Fred William Pease?
No. I was meaning Emma, who was the subject of the query. Her husband was supposed to be in Ireland.
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Emma is married.
In the occupation column it has a comment about her husband.
"Husband H.... ..... Ireland"
When I enlarge it to see better, it just loses focus.
Yes,zooming makes it worse. I think the enumerator used a stick dipped in ink🙄
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Married. Husband is a Hay binder now in Ireland
Add - With the punctuation.
Husband. Hay binder. "now in Ireland"
Thank you. I'd tried to find a Soph* Rogers with an Irish connection before ,but couldn't . I had my eye on another Soph* as the mother of Charles Ernest ROGERS born 1891, but it didn't feel right.
In 1891 this Sophia Rogers is a servant in Enfield, Middlesex . The Head of the household is James McGee age 53 born Dublin.
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It says Mar...married, in occupation it says Husbands......I can't make out two words followed by Ireland I think.
Carol
Thank you Carol.
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I am a little confused no one on that Census is born Ireland?
Sorry if I confused you.
No, but Sophia's father is working in Ireland, and in 1891 Sophia is working as a servant for a James McGee who was born in Ireland. McGee was the manager of the Small arms ordnance factory in Enfield.
I know they're tenuous Irish connections at the moment
Just as a note, the lady who I'm helping is (was) Rodgers, and some of the records for her grandfather are Rodgers, but he was born Rogers as far as I can see.
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Sorry if I was confusing Gadget.
I had already typed up the info about Sophia Rogers and then saw your query.