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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Warwickshire => Topic started by: rogerwill on Friday 26 November 21 02:22 GMT (UK)
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I have a marriage certificate for Bloomah Frankel from January 1873, which notes she was married at Bedford House on Highfield Road, King’s Norton, Birmingham. I'd like to find out more about Bedford House, who lived there, etc, but am having trouble finding Highfield Road on the 1871 English census. It wasn't either of the parties to the marriage or the witnesses apparently. Can anyone help? Thanks.
Roger
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Highfield Rd appears on the 1871 census at Edgbaston, Kings Norton. RG10/3082
From the description of the Enumeration District:
"Part of the Parish of Edgbaston, comprising New Bridge St, Enfield Place, George Rd, Bridge Rd to Bridge, Frederick Place ... Harbourne Rd, Highfield Rd, Islington Row."
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As is so often the case when I look at a map, what I'm looking for is on the join of 2 maps. ::) Bedford House shown here in 1882 just off the map, I can't seem to find the adjoining map from this time.
https://maps.nls.uk/view/101597729
(top, centre/right hand side)
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You can scroll around this one Maddy:
https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom=17.757660520053737&lat=52.47017&lon=-1.92410&layers=168&right=ESRIWorld
Unfortunately Bedford House is not marked though. It’s times like this I miss old-maps.co.uk. :-\
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In 1871 Bloomah Frankel age 30 was living as a niece in Edgbaston with Myer Myers age 70 born Prussia and his family His wife Rebecca's maiden name was Frankel
Using Anc trees - in 1871 and 1881 I think Myer's son Maurice Myers was living at 5 Highfield Road as shown below in 1881
Maurice Myers 54 Manufacturer of steel pens Birmingham, Warwickshire
Matilda Myers 48 Birmingham, Warwickshire
Lilla Myers 23 Birmingham, Warwickshire
Adolphe Myers 20 Clerk for firm Birmingham, Warwickshire
Leopold Myers 18 Civil engineer Birmingham, Warwickshire
Alice Myers 12 Birmingham, Warwickshire
Looking at the maps Maddy and Ruskie posted and looked at the approximate area on Streetview I noticed this blue plaque on the present day Highfield Nursery https://openplaques.org/plaques/1611 that refers to the property being 3-4 Highfield Road.
I wonder whether as Maurice Myers was living at 5 Highfield House between 1871-1881 which would be just the south of present day Highfield Nursery that this was also Bedford House and Bloomah was living with this relative when she married :-\
Kay
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Thanks Maddy, Ruskie and Kay for your helpful contributions to this puzzle. I think Kay is probably right with the suggestion that Bedford House in Maurice Myers home at 5 Highfield Road. Now finding him on the census 1851 through to 1881, I see no mention of 'Bedford House' and no mention of it in the Street Directories either, but the first map confirms its rough location.
Roger
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Sometimes census addresses can be written slightly differently in different censuses, even if the family are living that the same address. Follow the enumerator’s walk, look at neighbouring addresses, and try to track it on a map, which might clarify. :)
Some lovely houses on that road. Would have been even nicer in 1871. ;D
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Bedford House is marked on the 1:500 Town Plan here:
https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom=19&lat=52.47130&lon=-1.92650&layers=117746211&right=osm (https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom=19&lat=52.47130&lon=-1.92650&layers=117746211&right=osm)
Kathryn
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Abraham Nerwich died there in 1875, aged 80
https://tinyurl.com/ykhj47yh
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This just confirms that Bedford House was 5 Highfield Road in 1875:
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1872 Kellys lists Abraham Nerwich at 5 Highfield Road so he must have moved there shortly after the 1871 census.
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1872 Kellys lists Abraham Nerwich at 5 Highfield Road so he must have moved there shortly after the 1871 census.
I think he was the occupant's Maurice Myer's father-in-law
Kay
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Thanks for this latest. Kathryn, it was good to see the map confirm the exact location. I took a walk around the area and the house is demolished and replaced with a modern building. Shaun and Kay thanks too for the link to Maurice's father in law and the added confirmation. I think this wraps up this query for me. My thanks to all.
Roger
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Thanks for this latest. Kathryn, it was good to see the map confirm the exact location. I took a walk around the area and the house is demolished and replaced with a modern building. Shaun and Kay thanks too for the link to Maurice's father in law and the added confirmation. I think this wraps up this query for me. My thanks to all.
Roger
I’m not sure about that Roger. The red brick ‘thing’ on the corner has fairly recently been squeezed in. No 5 has definitely undergone some serious alterations, but the bones of the original building might still be there under the awful and unsympathetic modernisations. (Would need to have a look inside to know for sure.)
It would have been a very lovely street when your ancestors lived there.
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Bedford House is marked on the 1:500 Town Plan here:
https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom=19&lat=52.47130&lon=-1.92650&layers=117746211&right=osm (https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom=19&lat=52.47130&lon=-1.92650&layers=117746211&right=osm)
Kathryn
Amazing map Kathryn. :)