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Title: Robert Newbery son of Francis Newberry Esq?
Post by: littlefacey on Sunday 28 November 21 17:18 GMT (UK)
Hello!

I have a John Newbery who was the son of Robert Newbery and his wife Jane Bone. Robert was born around 1775 in the Middlesex / London area but I am unsure if he is the son of Francis Newbery Esq & his wife Mary Raikes or George Newbery & wife Amelia?

Is there a way to determine who his parents are?
Title: Re: Robert Newbery son of Francis Newberry Esq?
Post by: jonw65 on Sunday 28 November 21 17:57 GMT (UK)
The marriage was 8 Aug 1802, at St. Martin in the Fields, and witnessed by a Martha Newbery.
Baptisms in St Clement Danes to Robert and Jane Newbery include daughter Amelia (1803) and son George (1808), son George Burgis (1810)
Robert a Paper Stainer on later baptisms.

Looks like George and Amelia might be possible parents.
Title: Re: Robert Newbery son of Francis Newberry Esq?
Post by: Pennines on Sunday 28 November 21 18:16 GMT (UK)
I would agree with jonw here for the same reason. The names of parents were often passed down through families in those days.

Title: Re: Robert Newbery son of Francis Newberry Esq?
Post by: littlefacey on Sunday 28 November 21 18:19 GMT (UK)
I agree too.. its only when I saw every tree online with the parents being Francis & Mary and I started doubting myself!
Title: Re: Robert Newbery son of Francis Newberry Esq?
Post by: Pennines on Sunday 28 November 21 18:21 GMT (UK)
So we only need another one and we would have a quorum!!
Title: Re: Robert Newbery son of Francis Newberry Esq?
Post by: jonw65 on Sunday 28 November 21 18:40 GMT (UK)
Martha, daughter of George & Amelia Newberry, baptized 7 March 1773, at Chiswick. Born 17 Feb
Image on FamilySearch
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS6T-NSP1-P

Robert, son of George + Amelia Newberry, baptized 20 Feby 1776, Chiswick. Born 20 Feby
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS6T-NSP5-P

There may be a problem, because there is a Robert Newberry burial in Chiswick, 1 June 1809, age 33
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS6T-N344-K
Title: Re: Robert Newbery son of Francis Newberry Esq?
Post by: jonw65 on Sunday 28 November 21 19:04 GMT (UK)
OK, there is a Robert Newbery marriage to Jane Latham, 28 Sep 1806, St. Marylebone.
One of those later baptisms in St Clement Danes was in 1821, a Richard Latham to Robert (Paper Stainer) and Jane Newbery.

So the later baptisms in St Clements are probably to them, not to Robert and Jane Bone. Only the first George baptism can be theirs then.
Title: Re: Robert Newbery son of Francis Newberry Esq?
Post by: jonw65 on Sunday 28 November 21 19:14 GMT (UK)
Is this him?
15 June 1809
Abstract of Administration of Robert Newbery otherwise Newberry of No 2 Three Arrows Court Chancery Lane St Dunstan in the West London, Middlesex. Proved in the Court of London.
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D7190820

Formerly of Bonwell Ct Strand
Administratrix Jane Newbery of the same place Widow. Relict.
Free to download.
Title: Re: Robert Newbery son of Francis Newberry Esq?
Post by: jonw65 on Sunday 28 November 21 19:21 GMT (UK)
Administration is on ancestry in  London, England, Wills and Probate, 1507-1858.
15 June 1809
Appeared personally Jane Newbery Widow
Robert Newbery otherwise Newberry
formerly of Boswell Court Strand but late of Three Arrow Court Chancery Lane in the parish of Saint Dunstans in the West...
Intestate

Died in May?
Hopefully ties in with the burial in Chiswick.
Title: Re: Robert Newbery son of Francis Newberry Esq?
Post by: Pennines on Sunday 28 November 21 19:52 GMT (UK)
Great research jonw!
Title: Re: Robert Newbery son of Francis Newberry Esq?
Post by: jonw65 on Sunday 28 November 21 19:59 GMT (UK)
Hi Penines
Thanks. Hope it's turned out all right. Just our luck to get two Robert and Jane Newber(r)y's having children baptized at St Clement Danes, with an overlap.
I should have noticed there were two baptisms within a couple of months in 1808 :)
Title: Re: Robert Newbery son of Francis Newberry Esq?
Post by: Pennines on Monday 29 November 21 08:51 GMT (UK)
Jonw --- I must confess I didn't even look! I only answered the first question. (Bone Idle is my other user name).

I don't know what to say about your 2 baptisms discovery - always a nightmare. You are just too good at this!

Title: Re: Robert Newbery son of Francis Newberry Esq?
Post by: littlefacey on Sunday 05 December 21 20:39 GMT (UK)
Wow this is great! Thank you! I'm going to have a proper good look now :) :) :)