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Title: Leonard Charles Rutt
Post by: PaulJC on Saturday 04 December 21 12:20 GMT (UK)
Hi,

I am trying to find the parents/grandparents of Leonard Charles Rutt. He was born in 1904 in Barnet, London. I have found his birth but cannot find him in the 1911 Census?
I have the information from 1939 Register but his parents, grandparents elude me.
Thanks,
Paul
Title: Re: Leonard Charles Rutt
Post by: cath151 on Saturday 04 December 21 12:40 GMT (UK)
Hi
GRO gives Leonards mmn as Deebank, there are two other Rutt/Deebank births in Barnet
Rose Sophia1899 and Sarah Ada 1899
Rose is in Barnet in 1901 with parents James and Angelina Rutt.

There are stepchildren with surname Dick so...
Marriage 1882 Angelina Deebank to Alexander Dick.
Then marriage 1897 James Rutt and Angelina Dick.

Cathy
Title: Re: Leonard Charles Rutt
Post by: cath151 on Saturday 04 December 21 12:59 GMT (UK)
The family are in friern Barnet in 1911, transcribed Butt on FindMyPast.
Cathy :)
Title: Re: Leonard Charles Rutt
Post by: PaulJC on Saturday 04 December 21 13:01 GMT (UK)
Thanks Cathy,

An unfortunate mistake on the surname.........!

Paul
Title: Re: Leonard Charles Rutt
Post by: rosie99 on Saturday 04 December 21 13:16 GMT (UK)
Being fair to the transcriber of the 1911 it could have said either Rutt or Butt  :).
Title: Re: Leonard Charles Rutt
Post by: amondg on Thursday 09 December 21 08:05 GMT (UK)
The 1897 marriage was at St Paul Enfield on 1 August.

James was 40 lab.  father Charles Rutt also Lab.

Angelina was 33 widow her father Thomas Deebank -Bricklayer

Witness Elizabeth Cobb and Jesse Hills.

Bride and groom signed witnesses made their mark.
Title: Re: Leonard Charles Rutt
Post by: amondg on Friday 10 December 21 08:22 GMT (UK)
Thomas Deebank (Angelina's father) married Eliza Miller at St Pancras 4 April 1863
His father John also a bricklayer
Her father Samuel Deceased.
Witnesses are John Deebank and Susannah Deebank

Thomas moved frequently, job related I expect and had a large family, unfortunately Eliza is a widow in 1911 and how many children she had was not recorded.

Found so far
Angelina 1864 (bap 15 May 1864 Christ Church Somers Town of Smith Street) died 1915
Harry 1865
Sarah 1866- died 1876 age 10 reg Hampstead
Susannah 1867 -died 1868 (bap St Silas 23 August 1868)   
Florence Eliza 1869 (bap St Silas 31 Oct. 1869)
* poss another child 1870/71
William Alfred born 30 November 1872 (bap St Silas with sister Ada 18 Feb 1874)
Ada 1873- died 1874 (born 26 Sept. 1873 - Bap 18 Feb 1874 St Silas Islington)
Thomas 1875
1877 unnamed female reg Hampstead
Ernest 1878
James 1879 
Jane 1881 (bap 30 March 1881 St James Dallington of 4 Park Road)
Eliza 1884
John 1885

1871 they are in Islington as Debonk on ancestry

1881 in Dallington Northamptonshire 4 Park Road
Thomas 42 (transcribed as 72) bricklayer born Lancashire
Eliza 39  born Aylesbury Buckinghamshire
Angelina 17  St Pancras
Harry 16 Sevon Oaks Kent
Florence 13   reg Islington
William 11 Bow  (moet)
Thomas 6 Kentish Town (St Pancras)
Ernest 4 Northants
James 2 Northants
Jane 1 Northants.

1891 Friern Barnet MDX- 10 Doncaster Terrace
2 more children
Eliza 1884
John 1885

Thomas Deebank 1841-1906 and his wife Eliza nee Miller 1843-1913

Title: Re: Leonard Charles Rutt
Post by: amondg on Friday 10 December 21 09:38 GMT (UK)
1861 Thomas Deebank is in Shropshire age 21 he is living with Ann age 28 I cannot find a formal marriage
They did have a child Ann Catherine 1860 mmn Tompson
she was baptized 14 October 1860 in Bridgnorth Ann Katherine of Thomas and Ann Deebank buried 30 June 1861.

Sarah Ann age 10 with them has to be from a previous relationship of Ann.

1863 of course he is in London marrying Eliza Miller.
Title: Re: Leonard Charles Rutt
Post by: amondg on Saturday 11 December 21 06:47 GMT (UK)
James Rutt served in the Bedfordshire Regiment signed up age 19 on 24 October 1877 he served a total of 12 years, he was sent to India 6 March 1879. It names his father as Charles, plus more information. Discharge seems to be 23 October 1889

It is on Fold 3 on ancestry.
Title: Re: Leonard Charles Rutt
Post by: amondg on Saturday 11 December 21 09:23 GMT (UK)
Alexander Dick -Angelina's first husband disappears after 1888 (birth of son William James in Wandsworth). At some point Angelina moves to Friern Barnet ref: 1891 census Angelina Dick 27,
Thomas 8, Florence 4, William 2.
Note William James is baptized St Paul Enfield 31 January 1904 parents Alexander and Angelina
Born 29 July 1888. There is a notation about his father -unknown if dead or alive.
William James Dick serves in WW1 and moves to Manitoba Canada arriving 10 June 1921 with his wife and 3 children intending to go to his sister. He died 1947 age 59, 4 children 9 grandchildren obit on ancestry.
Florence Eliza Dick goes to Canada age 19 arriving 7 October 1906
Thomas Deebank Dick remains in England born 10 March 1883 per school admin records.
They had another child William Alfred born 1885 Wandsworth died 1886 age 1

So at this point 4 children 3 alive 1 deceased.

She knows James Rutt by 1891 as daughter Elizabeth Eliza Rutt Dick reg Barnet 1892.
James Ernest Rutt Dick 1893
Edward Rutt Dick 1895
They marry 1 August 1897 (seven years after Alexander disappears) I believe it was the required waiting time.

I went on this track as Angelina says in 1911 that she has been married 20 years 10 children 7 alive 3 deceased.
She counts from circa 1891 with James to come up with 20 years but I'll be darned if I can find 10 children 9 with James yes but the 10th is elusive, although there is this one Rose Dicks 1898 no mmn died 1898.Needs further research perhaps a baptism can be found.   
Elizabeth, James and Edward with the last name Dick see previously listed.


 
Title: Re: Leonard Charles Rutt
Post by: amondg on Saturday 11 December 21 09:53 GMT (UK)
Apologies posted before I finished my entry. Found under GRO index
Under the name Rutt with mother's maiden name Deebank

Sophia Rose 1899
Sarah Ada 1901 - missing 1911
Annie 1903
Leonard 1904
Edith Annie 1906 -missing 1911
Beatrice May 1907 died 1908
 
Title: Re: Leonard Charles Rutt
Post by: amondg on Saturday 11 December 21 10:08 GMT (UK)
James Rutt's father is Charles Rutt who married Sophia Crosely/Crossley/Crosley 11 September 1853 at Langford Bedfordshire.
His father David.
Her father John

1861 census
Charles 28
Sophia 32
Ann 7 registered as Croseley at Biggleswade Union 1853 (illeg.)
Elizabeth 6  -1854
*James 3 - 1858
Sarah 10/12 reg 1860
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Missing is Daniel 1856 need to look up death record
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1871
Charles 38
Sophia 43
James 13
Sarah 10
Fred 7 -1862
Rose 3  (poss reg as Jemima 1867)in Biggleswade
Hannah 1 reg 1869
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1881 Back Lane
Sophia 54  married           (need to find Charles)
Sarah 20
Eliza 8 reg 1873 mmn Crosley
George W gson 9 months, reg as William George Rutt, Illeg.
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1891 Charles 62
Sophia 63
Eliza 21
Rose 7/12 reg as Rose Matilda (illeg)
Title: Re: Leonard Charles Rutt
Post by: amondg on Saturday 11 December 21 10:26 GMT (UK)
Charles Rutt is the son of David Rutt who married Martha Allen 8 December 1821 at Henlow Bedfordshire (his name transcribed as Butt)

1841 census
David Rutt 44
Martha 37
John 16
Rebecca 13
**Charles 11
Jemima 8
Jesse 6
George 3
Hannah 11 months (GRO Index mmn Allen)

1851 Church Lane with William born 1843 and Eliza born 1847

There is a daughter Jane age 4 I didn't find a registration, although there is a Rebecca 1846 Illeg.
Mercy age 2 is also listed as a daughter but she is a granddaughter reg 1848 Illeg.

David Rutt died 1876 age 76 reg Biggleswade
Martha died 1864 buried 21 April 1864 at Langford.