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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Lancashire => Topic started by: Katharine75 on Friday 07 January 22 09:29 GMT (UK)
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Hi all. A couple of questions here.
I am looking for the location of New Butler Street, Manchester (Ancoats?). I can only see Butler Street on current maps. Don't think they are same as it looks longer and the 1911 census only has 24 households.
Also interested in any photos of this street (particularly No.13).
I am also looking for Swallows Place again maybe in Ancoats. These were both locations in the 1921 census.
I am also looking for burials of James Glew d.1928 (Manchester North) and Margaret Glew d.1938 (Manchester North).
I have looked at a few available databases but cannot see them at all. Any suggestions how to find their burials?
Thanks, Katharine.
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Lancashirebmd has James aged 73 - GLEW James 73 1928 Manchester Archives+, Manchester Central Library MAN/7/107
Margaret aged 83 GLEW .....Margaret 83 1938 Manchester North East Archives+, Manchester Central Library MNE/5/66
so one is Manchester and one is Manchester North East
are they husband and wife ??
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was Margaret - Margaret Gilligan ? married in Leeds
did they live in Cheetham Hill at one point ?
Baptism: 3 Aug 1879 St Chad, Cheetham, Lancashire, England
Jacobus Glew - filius Jacobi Glew & Margaritae (formerly Gilligan)
Born: 13 Jun 1879
Abode: (Byrom St.)
Godparents: Maria Nolan
Baptised by: Joanne Burke, M. C.
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James Glew was 73 & Margaret Glew 83 on their respective death registrations
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Thankyou both for reply.
Garstonite, I did not have the baptism so that is very exciting, thanks. That's my great great grandfather James Charles GLEW. Where did you find it?
Yes James and Margaret, husband and wife married in Leeds (his second marriage, bigamously!) and I was not aware they lived in Cheetham Hill, but they had moved around a little bit. Seems they were at 13 New Butler Street the longest, hence me wanting to find it's location. Their other son was living at Swallows Place.
Those reference numbers for the library...will they give information on burial?
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Their burials don’t seem to be recorded in the Manchester Cemetery records
https://secure.manchester.gov.uk/info/200032/deaths_funerals_and_cemeteries/1064/burial_records
As you have Catholic baptisms, they may be buried in the Catholic cemetery, St Joseph’s, Moston.
Findagrave have some records there https://www.findagrave.com/cemetery/2208572/st.-joseph's-roman-catholic-churchyard
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Do you have James and Margaret in 1911? I can’t see them. :-\
I did find Swallow Place as an address but now can’t spot it. However, going back and forth through 1911, I think Davies Street followed it.
You can see, hopefully, Davies Street on this map. It is parallel to Butler Street and crosses Rolleston Street.
https://www.rootschat.com/links/01r5y/
I saw it yesterday and then had to go out so I hope I have remembered correctly. ::)
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I see the link doesn’t show the zoomed in view sorry.
Rolleston Street is now Rolleston Avenue on modern maps which will help you if you are not familiar with the area.
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This is similar. You will have to zoom in. It is fairly easy to spot. The tramway goes along Butler Street from Oldham Road.
New Butler Street is parallel to Butler Street next to Butler Street Mill.
https://maps.nls.uk/view/126522818
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Yes, I had already checked Mancester Burials Website. I have now checked the Catholic graveyard you gave link for with no luck. He was CoE, she was obviously Catholic (from Irish family).
I couldn't see Swallow's place but did find the streets you mentioned. The last map you linked which has New Butler Street is AMAZING!! Thanks. I did find on Manchester libraries one photo of New Butler Street with a corner store. I can now see which corner it might have been on as it has a large building across street that must be the mill.
:)
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Yes I checked that too with no luck.
There may be no headstone for the grave. If you have a date, it might be worth contacting St Joseph’s although in the past, the responses has been mixed.
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There is a large Catholic cemetery at Philip’s Park .
Near the Etihad Stadium.
A bit nearer than the one mentioned.
The area round Butler St was demolished in the fifties and early sixties and a big Council estate built ,bounded by Butler St,Holland St Bradford Road.
Viktoria.
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There are Glews buried in Philips Park cemetery but not James and Margaret. :-\
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I am wondering if Manchester General Cemetery has a Catholic section.
Better known as Queen’s Road Cemetery, or Harpurhey Cemetery but on Rochdale Road.
A little further up on the left as of Queens Road cuts through Rochdale Road after Oldham Road and before Cheetham Hill Road .
Don’t go alone ,sadly it is a place where large gangs of children gather ,they boast” I pushed that gravestone over “—-!
There was a project to record all the graves there ,I joined a few times but
then could not go .They did wonderful work.
People met on Sunday mornings well organised , Manchester General Cemetery Recording Project., ir Transcription Project, if that is not exact there will be some reference to it .
Viktoria.
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That’s also included in Manchester records, Viktoria.
https://www.burialrecords.manchester.gov.uk/
There may be graves that are not included in the records. I wonder if your project records were kept separate?
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There will be old posts about the project, the organisers always put on RootsChat when there would be a meet ,they were very organised.
I am not sure if their findings have been incorporated in the official records or are separate ,I will try to find details for you .
Cheerio for now.
Viktoria.
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Try www.mgctp.com
Try The Lancashire Board on RootsChat.
It might have come to an end but the records will be somewhere.
Viktoria.
Try http//mgctp.moonfruit.com/
Poster was cancan.
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I remember those Viktoria. :)
Full of admiration for you all.
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Thankyou both for replies. I have left a message for a records lookup using the link you provided Vicktoria. Don't worry - I won't be visiting the cemetery anytime soon....I'm on other side of the world!
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Oh well then, you could perhaps pop in to see my other rellies, the enormous Cole family from Pinchbeck Fen Linconshire.
Five brothers with families emigrated to Bathurst and Sofala,N.S,W.1853.
They had ten and twelve children and the family tree is sooooo big!
I even met a Chiropractor from Australia who knew some of my Coles ,here in Lancashire.
Cheerio.Hope I was of some help.
Viktoria.