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Title: Six year old voter?
Post by: Davedrave on Friday 14 January 22 10:22 GMT (UK)
I’ve only just realised that on a 1930 electoral register my father was listed. The thing is, he was born in 1924! There were only three people in the household: my grandfather and his mother-in-law, and my father, who had the same Christian names as my grandfather. He is listed on the roll as “jnr”. Junior he certainly was, but what on earth was going on? (There was certainly no other relative of this name who it might be.)
Title: Re: Six year old voter?
Post by: KGarrad on Friday 14 January 22 10:38 GMT (UK)
So, your grandfather made a mistake on the original form?!

People even today make the same mistake.
Title: Re: Six year old voter?
Post by: majm on Friday 14 January 22 10:44 GMT (UK)
Several possibilities...

a) Jnr is a printers error and the J ought to be an S as in Snr
b) Jnr is correct as among your Grandfather's  ancestors (uncle, cousin, g/father, great uncle etc) is a chap who used to live at that address or at least in that area and after whom your Grandfather was named
c) Someone is mis-reading the roll and it actually reads 'Snr' as in Senior
d) Someone put your Grandfather's name forward and no official bothered to check his then age so they entered him officially on the roll
e) The Electoral Roll people simply made a mistake - was he listed at that address in the electoral rolls covering the years immediately before and after 1930.
f) I dunno !  ;D

JM
Title: Re: Six year old voter?
Post by: Ray T on Friday 14 January 22 11:55 GMT (UK)
By no means unusual. This sort of thing typically raises its head around election time when the press reports that a minor (or even the dog) has been sent a polling card. It depends upon the names who the main householder has endered on the electoral return but it doesn’t mean that the child (or the dog!) can exercise any right to vote.
Title: Re: Six year old voter?
Post by: ThrelfallYorky on Friday 14 January 22 12:04 GMT (UK)
But I'm sure my cat would use its vote, if it had one,  more thoughtfully than some people over 18!
TY
Title: Re: Six year old voter?
Post by: Redroger on Friday 14 January 22 20:30 GMT (UK)
So, your grandfather made a mistake on the original form?!

People even today make the same mistake.

They do indeed, sometimes though I think the mistake might have be deliberate given the alacrity with which Mum appears on TV along with the toddling voter,
Title: Re: Six year old voter?
Post by: Maiden Stone on Friday 14 January 22 20:35 GMT (UK)
But I'm sure my cat would use its vote, if it had one,  more thoughtfully than some people over 18!
TY

Perhaps the grandfather had a similar thought - that his 6 year-old son was as sensible as "flappers", single women aged 21 & over who had recently been enfranchised.  ;)
Title: Re: Six year old voter?
Post by: Redroger on Friday 14 January 22 21:01 GMT (UK)
But I'm sure my cat would use its vote, if it had one,  more thoughtfully than some people over 18!
TY

Perhaps the grandfather had a similar thought - that his 6 year-old son was as sensible as "flappers", single women aged 21 & over who had recently been enfranchised.  ;)

Given the dates involved I think this is probably right.When I first started political campaigning about 1960 albeit in a small rural town (Boston) it was still the case where a lot of women voters probably a majority had to ask their husband's permission to reply to the canvasser. Twenty years later at Doncaster the reverse was true,but only partially.I was agent for a candidate who was a feminist activist. I introduced to a regular supporter thinking there would be no problem there. His response "Who's doing the washing up?" It took a bottle of gin, and a phone call to her husband who was baby sitting to come and collect her since she had had too much to drive safely. She did have the ultimate satisfaction of winning the seat by 59 votes after 2 recounts!
Title: Re: Six year old voter?
Post by: Andrew Tarr on Saturday 15 January 22 09:50 GMT (UK)
By no means unusual. This sort of thing typically raises its head around election time when the press reports that a minor (or even the dog) has been sent a polling card.
I believe this sort of thing (personation) used to be popular in Irish elections.  One motto - at least in northern Ireland - is Vote Early, Vote Often ....
Title: Re: Six year old voter?
Post by: Elwyn Soutter on Saturday 15 January 22 15:46 GMT (UK)
By no means unusual. This sort of thing typically raises its head around election time when the press reports that a minor (or even the dog) has been sent a polling card.
I believe this sort of thing (personation) used to be popular in Irish elections.  One motto - at least in northern Ireland - is Vote Early, Vote Often ....

It was quite common in Northern Ireland for families to keep adult "children" on the voting register who had long left home. When an election came along someone would vote for them. So the authorities  brought in a requirement for photo identification (as I think England & Wales are now planning to do). When the id requirement came in, something like 10% of the names dropped off the electoral register.
Title: Re: Six year old voter?
Post by: Maiden Stone on Sunday 16 January 22 01:02 GMT (UK)
A series about population on Radio 4. A topic in discussion today was age imbalance of British voters. 1 contributor asked another if he would he let 6 year-olds vote.
A teacher this week asked her class of 6 year-olds who they thought should be prime minister.