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Title: Sœur Patricia de Jésus
Post by: Tickettyboo on Saturday 15 January 22 15:52 GMT (UK)
Birth name Elizabeth Boyne.
Grew up in Liverpool.
She took her vows at Saint-Laurent-sur-Sèvre, Vendée, France in 1930 and remained in France (at Rennes) all through WW2 - though some of that time was spent in an internment camp rather than at the convent and the hospital they ran.

If anyone is able to clean the image up a bit that would be much appreciated.

Thanks
Boo
Title: Re: Sœur Patricia de Jésus
Post by: japeflakes on Saturday 15 January 22 16:51 GMT (UK)
Starter for you:  Not sure about the "mark" at the top of the cross.
Title: Re: Sœur Patricia de Jésus
Post by: cliffkinch on Saturday 15 January 22 18:44 GMT (UK)
one from me
Cliff
Title: Re: Sœur Patricia de Jésus
Post by: hoobaloo on Saturday 15 January 22 21:30 GMT (UK)
A try from me,  the "mark" at the top pf the crucifix is a plaque with the letters _ INRI _ which is the Latin initials for "Jesus of Nazareth, King of the Jews"  In Latin "Iesus Nazeremus Rex Iudaeorum". Regards, John.
Title: Re: Sœur Patricia de Jésus
Post by: McGroger on Saturday 15 January 22 22:50 GMT (UK)
My try. :)
Peter
Title: Re: Sœur Patricia de Jésus
Post by: Tickettyboo on Sunday 16 January 22 10:28 GMT (UK)
Starter for you:  Not sure about the "mark" at the top of the cross.

Thanks japeflakes.  Your help is, as ever, much appreciated.

hoobaloo has explained about the 'mark' on the crucifix.

Boo
Title: Re: Sœur Patricia de Jésus
Post by: Tickettyboo on Sunday 16 January 22 11:09 GMT (UK)
one from me
Cliff

Thank you Cliff, its kind of you to (yet again) help me.
Her veil now looks like its just come back from the laundry :-) 


Boo
Title: Re: Sœur Patricia de Jésus
Post by: Tickettyboo on Sunday 16 January 22 11:18 GMT (UK)
A try from me,  the "mark" at the top pf the crucifix is a plaque with the letters _ INRI _ which is the Latin initials for "Jesus of Nazareth, King of the Jews"  In Latin "Iesus Nazeremus Rex Iudaeorum". Regards, John.

Thanks John,
both for the work you have done for me on the image and for explaining about the 'mark' on her crucifix after Japeflakes mentioned it .

Boo
Title: Re: Sœur Patricia de Jésus
Post by: Tickettyboo on Sunday 16 January 22 11:23 GMT (UK)
My try. :)
Peter

Thank you Peter I love your 'tries' :-) and much appreciate the help that you all give so freely in here.

Boo



Title: Re: Sœur Patricia de Jésus
Post by: Tickettyboo on Sunday 16 January 22 17:37 GMT (UK)
Thought this may make you all smile as much as I did.
I showed your restores to a contact, to be fair she's got a lot going on atm so the brain isn't 'quite' in gear.

She asked if I knew when the photo was taken - sadly no. It would be nice to think it was taken when she took her vows in 1930 but we just don't know.

Next comment was - why don't you ask those clever people who can date photos if they can help?

Errm, they usually can give a ball park figure based on clothing styles BUT she was a nun.
That would have been the 'only' style of clothing she wore from the day she professed to the day she died in 1958. So clever as they undoubtedly are, the best they'd be able to say is 1930-1958!
:-)

(NB I do know that the Filles de La Sagesse did eventually update to a more modern style habit but not till the mid to late 1960s. My senior school was run by the same order - the elderly nuns found it a very difficult change to get used to, the younger ones were delighted!)

Boo
Title: Re: Sœur Patricia de Jésus
Post by: McGroger on Sunday 16 January 22 20:26 GMT (UK)
Boo, if you have the actual photo, the back can often help to date it: from the style, any lines, boxes, letters, numbers. Combined with the apparent age of the subject, it just might be possible. Post it and see if the experts (i'm not one) can date it.
Peter
Title: Re: Sœur Patricia de Jésus
Post by: Tickettyboo on Sunday 16 January 22 21:36 GMT (UK)
I wish I did have it Peter, but like a lot of my in laws  stuff that I scanned with their permission many years ago it had disappeared by the time they died.


Boo
Title: Re: Sœur Patricia de Jésus
Post by: Maiden Stone on Monday 17 January 22 19:22 GMT (UK)

She asked if I knew when the photo was taken - sadly no. It would be nice to think it was taken when she took her vows in 1930 but we just don't know.

Next comment was - why don't you ask those clever people who can date photos if they can help?

Errm, they usually can give a ball park figure based on clothing styles BUT she was a nun.
That would have been the 'only' style of clothing she wore from the day she professed to the day she died in 1958. So clever as they undoubtedly are, the best they'd be able to say is 1930-1958!
:-)


And no hairstyle to provide clues. Although we can make an educated guess that her hair was short.