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Hello everyone
I am new to this and I am looking for when My Greta Great grandfather arrived in New Zealand.
His Name was Edward Wignall and he mostly lived in Port Chalmers. If their is any other relatives in New Zealand would love to hear from you.
Lyn
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Hi Lyn, and welcome to RootsChat :)
Papers Past show that he was a master stevedore of Port Chalmers and lived in Magnetic Street in 1878. I can't find an arrival so far.
He was a Crimean War veteran (not a soldier as suggested by this very comprehensive website, which answers many genealogical questions except the one specifically posed by Lyn, more likely served in the Royal Navy)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/porkynz/10151451493
Spades
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Earliest date I can find for him is 1863, with a likely marriage to Elizabeth McLaren REID.
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Hi Lyn,
If you haven't already done so I suggest that you contact the Port Chalmers Museum and ask them for any information they have on Edward WIGNALL. They also have an excellent database known as 'Port Cahlmers Early People'.
I would also suggest Toitu Dunedin Early Settlers Museum and Dunedin Public Library, both of which hold a wealth of information about early Dunedin and it's population.
I wonder if finding the vessel he arrived on is a challenge because he arrived as crew, not a passenger.
Spades
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Hi Lyn,
The Flickr webpage carries a mention of a vessel he served on, the SANS PAREIL. She was a Royal Navy two-deck third-rate battleship launched in 1851.
Here is a link to HMS SANS PAREIL's operational history which might help you place Edward in the contexts of place and time.
Spades
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I am not connected to Edward Wignall, but I am interested in the HMS Sans Pareil.
I could not find any actual link although Spades has mentioned one in his post.
Here is one that I have used in recent times: https://www.pdavis.nl/ShowShip.php?id=39
JM
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Thanks Majm,
I accidentally omitted it.
Spades
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Was it that one ... WoW :)
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Hi Lyn,
You might be able to find Edward's (presumed) Royal Navy personnel record by searching the UK National Archives website.
https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/
Spades
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Hello Lyn ... and welcome. :)
The following article, gives some more information for your Edward WIGNALL.
https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/ESD19070704.2.24
~ Lu
Added : His name hasn't highlighted in the article, but scroll down to paragraph 4 to find him.
The notes say he arrived "September last" (43 years ago), so count back from the year 1906 (as the article is dated July 1907). 1906 minus 43 = 1863.
Added 2. -- The article referred to above has some similarity to an article in "Otago Witness" 17 July 1907 - page 16, for which Spades included a link at Reply # 1 here. Use the reference ' (9) ' which the researcher has given, to go directly to the newspaper page.
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Edward WIGNALL's age at death in 1911 was given as 79 years, and if correct, his birth year was about 1832.
The following may be your man ? This may help find his record. (Excerpt from FindMyPast (pay $) website).
WIGNALL - Edward
Birth date : 25 November 1832
Birth County : Lancashire, [England ]
Record Set: Britain, Merchant Seamen - 1835-1857
BT 113 Series - The National Archives [England] [Also info available in BT 114 series ]
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There is this also >
Register Ticket # 492,271
WIGNALL - Edward
Born at Latham, Co. of Lancaster [ENG] on 25 November 1832.
Date (ticket ) was issued = 14 May 1850
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~ Lu
Edited for punctuation
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His Name was Edward Wignall and he mostly lived in Port Chalmers. If their is any other relatives in New Zealand would love to hear from you.
Lyn
Hello again Lyn
Not sure if you are familiar at all with the subscription website -- Ancestry.com ?
Looks like there are some 20 plus "family trees" for your Edward WIGNALL at that particular site.
We do however always advise treating the information which is posted to these "trees", with caution, as some of it can be based on speculation rather than fact. ;)
Some of the public libraries in NZ have an Ancestry Library edition available which is free to search, otherwise a subscription ($$) is needed, to be able to contact persons who have published their "trees" on the site. But maybe someone might just spot your request here and be willing to share their findings with you.
~ Lu
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I am not connected to Edward Wignall, but I am interested in the HMS Sans Pareil.
A link to the catalogue entry to the logbooks March 1852-June 1863 of HMS SANS PAREIL.
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/results/r/2?_ep=SANS%20PAREIL&_cr=adm53&_dss=range&_sd=1852&_ed=1870&_ro=any&_srt=3&_st=adv
Logbooks of HM Ships are primarily navigational records but may contain snippets of information concerning individual Seamen.
SW
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Hello Lyn,
You are searching for descendants of Edward Wignall. His death notice reveals that he had at least one child, a daughter and perhaps a son named Edward:
Edward snr, death notice....
https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/AS19110415.2.88?end_date=31-12-1911&query=edward+wignall&snippet=true&start_date=01-01-1911
That daughter's marriage:
1897/39 Jane Wignall John Greig Howarth
Cemetery Record for Edward Wignall
Date of birth
Unknown
Date of death
13 April 1911
Age at death
79 years
Gender
Male
Region
Central and Hauraki Gulf Islands
Cemetery name
Waikaraka Cemetery
Plot location
Waikaraka Cemetery, Area 2, Block N, Plot 053
Remains type
Body
Date of burial
13 April 1911
Minniehaha.
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https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/166258447/edward-wignall
Inscription
In Memory
Of my dear
Husband
Edward Wignall
Died April 13th 1911
Aged 79 years
Crimean Veteran
Gravesite Details
Aged 79
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Family Members
Children
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Margaret Drew Wignall Taylor
1864–1949
Find a grave details for Margaret:
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/218392107/margaret-drew-taylor
And her daughter:
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/218362313/elizabeth-wignall-bowman
Minniehaha.
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Descendants of Edward:
Daughter's marriage:
1884/1323 Margaret Wignall John Dougall Taylor
Daughter's birth:
1864/19044 Wignall Margaret Elizabeth Edward
Which led me to:
Marriage:
1863/4890 Elizabeth McLaren Reid Edward Wignall
Children ??:
1878/10394 Wignall John William Drew Elizabeth Edward -
1867/30042 Wignall Jane Elizabeth McLaren Edward -
1870/35966 Wignall Edward William Todd Elizabeth Edward -
1869/34996 Wignall Elizabeth Elizabeth Edward -
1866/29625 Wignall John Elizabeth Edward -
1864/19044 Wignall Margaret Elizabeth Edward
Minniehaha.
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Death of John in 1866 therefore Edward became the eldest [living] son.
https://www.dunedin.govt.nz/services/cemeteries/cemeteries-search?recordid=114662&type=Burial
1866/9118 Wignall John 8H
Minniehaha.
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Name taken from above 'Find a Grave' link [reply #14]:
https://collections.archives.govt.nz/web/arena/search#/item/aims-archive/R24779994/pepper-hugh-nicholson
His children are named in the will.
Death of Bethia nee Bowman, wife of Hugh Pepper:
2000/12177 Pepper Bethia Elizabeth 16 August 1909
Marriage:
1931/9589 Bethia Elizabeth Bowman Hugh Nicholson Pepper
Minniehaha.
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Cenotaph record for Barry James Pepper:
https://www.aucklandmuseum.com/war-memorial/online-cenotaph/record/86752
2001/21103 Pepper Barry James 23 September 1932
Find a Grave.......
https://sv.billiongraves.com/grave/Barry-James-Pepper/28509174
Minniehaha.
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Thanks All Most of the info above I have am also looking for more descendants
Will look into the HMS SANS PAREIL.
I have visited his grave and tidied it up was very emotional
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From the children named in reply #15 you will be able to compile family trees by using the NZ BDM website. :)
Minniehaha.
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Thanks have all that but want to find any living decedent's
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Hello Lyn
Did you see my earlier post about the family trees for Edward WIGNALL on the ancestry.com website ?? Refer to my Reply # 11 on this thread,
Viewing the trees of others often leads to finding living descendants who are prepared to share information with you.
~ Lu
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Hi Lyn,
Edward Wignall was also my great great grandfather. However, I don't have a lot of info on him, except for names/dates of his descendents.
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