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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Australia Lookups completed => Topic started by: Mobo on Sunday 04 September 05 06:41 BST (UK)
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Can someone tell me where I might find the Death Records for Montmorency, Victoria, circa 1970's, please ??
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Hi Mobo
Montmorency is a suburb of Melbourne, if there is a particular person you need just post the name and any other information and I will check the Victoria Death Indexes for you.
They are on CDRom, you can also search online but it cost.
Cheers
Genni
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Thanks a lot gennig - I posted this on the Emigrants General Board but have not had a reply.
Background info.
James & Susan (Susie) Scott and their children Daniel & Susan, emigrated to Oz in the 1950's. James was born circa 1900 in Ireland, Susie was born circa 1909 in Lancashire, and Daniel & Susan were born circa 1933 and 1943 also in Lancashire.
They finally settled in Montmorency, Victoria. James died not long after they arrived. We think Susie died in the 1970's. Daniel joined the Navy then became a Dental Technician. Young Susan married a guy who worked in Television. That's all I know.
We lost contact with them after about 1970.
It is Susan (Susie) whose death I'm interested in finding, along with any other info about the family.
Many thanks
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Mobo,
Do you have parents' names for James and Susan?
The Victorian Death Indexes (they go to 1985) usually have name of the deceased, age, father's forename(s) and not always surname, mother's forename(s) and maiden surname, and place of death (which could, of course, be a hospital rather than the suburb of residence); they don't list birthplace.
JAP
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All I know JAP is that Susan (Susie) SCOTT was born aournd 1909 in Salford, Lancashire and her maiden name was HEALEY or HEALY. As for James SCOTT he came from Ireland and I haven't a clue about his parentage.
Sorry that's all I have
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Hi Mobo - and sorry to butt in gennig!! I thought it would help if Mobo could give you the parents' names. But as you're not online ...
Yes, Susan is there.
Susan SCOTT, parents Healey William (that's how they enter the name in the index!) and Ann (unfortunately no maiden name), age 71, died 1984, HEID (presumably Heidelberg which is not far from Montmorency; Heidelberg is bigger and may well have been the registration district which incorporated Montmorency), Certificate #02758.
You can purchase and download Victorian certificates online at:
Click Here (http://online.justice.vic.gov.au/CA256C7100199CBE/page/Births+Deaths+and+Marriages+Online+Shop-Births+Deaths+and+Marriages+Online+Shop?OpenDocument&1=0-Births+Deaths+and+Marriages+Online+Shop~&2=0-Births+Deaths+and+Marriages+Online+Shop~&3=~)
There are some possibilities for James but ...
JAP
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Have now found the marriage of Susan HEALEY & James J. SCOTT, in Manchester in 1935
The birth of Daniel SCOTT in Salford, in 1935
The birth of Susan H SCOTT in Salford in 1943
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WHOOPS !! our posts must have crossed - WOW !! that's fantastic JAP I will go online straight away.
At the risk of being a pain, is it possible to find the marriages and/or deaths of Daniel & Susan as well please ??
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Hi Mobo
Australian birth and marriage records for the time period required are not accessible without proof of identification.
In other words only the people concerned can access the records.
If you decide to purchase the death certificate of Susan Scott nee Healey, then we will have a date of death an address and burial place.
Newspapers, electoral rolls & cemetary records can be checked, we might be able to find a living relative for you to contact.
Cheers
Genni
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Hi gennig
Yes, I realised that when I clicked on the site - anyway, I've sent for a certificate, and when it arrives, I'll have an address, which is something.
Hopefully, electoral rolls will help find Daniel; I have no idea of young Susan's married name.
Anyway, very many thanks to you and JAP for all your help, and if ever I can return the favour don't hesitate to ask.
You can see my special areas of interest in my profile and on my website, but I search everywhere else as well.
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Hi genni (and Mobo),
Genni, I see that you are in Victoria so you'll surely be better placed than I (in Adelaide) am to trace forwards :)
Genni, what did you think - I looked for Ja*s SCOTT deaths (of which there were quite a few!) but no-one with an age compatible with a 1900 birth and living in the Heidelberg area?
Possibilities on a +/- 5 basis between 1950 and 1970 might perhaps be:
*James SCOTT, William and Mary SCOTT, 55, d 1955, MELB (Melbourne) #8652
*James Henry SCOTT, Thomas and Martha HOOD, 56, d 1956, PARK (Parkville?), #15353
*James Archibald SCOTT, Samuel Garri and Elizabeth NEILL, 63, d 1961, CAUL (Caulfield?), #1655
*Victor James SCOTT, James and Florence HOWARTH, 64, d 1962, MARY (Maryborough? Marysville?), #10394
*James SCOTT, Peter and Margaret SWANSTON, 69, d 1964, COBU (Coburg?), #11980
Do you see any others?
Anyway, very fortunately Daniel and Susan jnr don't seem to be in the 1985 and earlier deaths.
Regards,
JAP
PS: I'm actually not too impressed by the lack of privacy in the Victoria online records :'( It's not just that all my grandparents are there easily accessible online but also both my parents and also my only sibling!
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WOW gennig !!
I received Susan's death certificate this morning - I didn't expect it would be so quick.
As you say, this has now given me her address, which is the same as her daughter-in-law's (who certified the death), and confirmed the name of her late husband, and children
As we can't access marriage records etc., what would be the best way to proceed now please ??
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Hi Mobo,
Butting in again ...
My suggestion would be that you post Susan's date of death and burial place.
Also (though preferably by PM given that it is relatively recently) the address which was also that of her daughter-in-law who was the informant.
The former, as Genni said, will permit her to search for newspaper notices (which might reveal Susan jnr's married name and information about grandchildren of both Susan jnr and Daniel), cemetery records (some of which are online), etc etc.
There's also the possibility of searching in the Australian (telephone) White Pages - unfortunately they are not Australia-wide but by State and are at:
http://www.whitepages.com.au
(Oh dear, I just tried it - not working and says it is undergoing an upgrade ::) Hmmm-mmm. Our main telco - Telstra - is in the news at present and far from positively.)
Cheers,
JAP
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Thanks JAP,
Yes, I will PM gennig with the details. How I wish Australian marriage & birth certificates were available as well, it would make life much simpler. Ho Hum !
Cheers
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Hi Mobo,
I'm not sure what Genni has access to - I can easily access only the Pioneers Index (to 1888) and the Deaths Index (1921-1985).
It may well be that births, marriages and deaths information later than that which is available on the so-called Historical Indexes might be able to accessed on request (possibly with reasons)?
I quess you would have to check this out with the Victorian BDM people at:
Click Here (http://online.justice.vic.gov.au/CA256C7100199CBE/page/Births+Deaths+and+Marriages+Online+Shop-Births+Deaths+and+Marriages+Online+Shop?OpenDocument&1=0-Births+Deaths+and+Marriages+Online+Shop~&2=0-Births+Deaths+and+Marriages+Online+Shop~&3=~)
Good luck,
JAP
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Hi Mobo
Australian birth and marriage records for the time period required are not accessible without proof of identification.
In other words only the people concerned can access the records. Genni
JAP
As Genni says, these can't be acessed without proof of identity.
Thanks anyway
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