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Title: Herne Bay Public School
Post by: tilly25 on Tuesday 31 May 22 11:06 BST (UK)
I am looking for information regarding the above school, apparently they held the Oxford shorthand competition in 1916 which was recorded in the Herne Bay Press on 9/12/1916.
Any information regarding the school and how to find register of old pupils would be appreciated
Title: Re: Herne Bay Public School
Post by: mckha489 on Tuesday 31 May 22 11:17 BST (UK)
I could be wrong, but the way I interpret that article is that it was a contest open to all boys at public schools. Not that a school was named  Herne Bay public School.

The winners “belonging to the New College contingent of Herne Bay College”

Title: Re: Herne Bay Public School
Post by: tilly25 on Tuesday 31 May 22 12:57 BST (UK)
What does “ new College Contingent of Herne Bay College mean.
I had hoped this would solve the mystery as to where my father went to school. His brother went to Eastbourne College but have never found his school, as lead to believe he was schooled abroad as was fluent French speaker
Title: Re: Herne Bay Public School
Post by: mckha489 on Tuesday 31 May 22 21:01 BST (UK)
What years would he have been at college?

Advertisement for 1906

Herne Bay New College. Professional, commercial and Engineering sides. 
Excellent science laboratories and workshops. Cadet Corps and Rifle Range, gymnasium and swimming. Separate bedrooms
Pretty and extensive grounds for cricket and football.

So I am a bit confused by the notes with the two pcs here.


https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Herne_Bay_College,_Herne_Bay_Kent.jpg

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Eddington_College.jpg
Title: Re: Herne Bay Public School
Post by: mckha489 on Tuesday 31 May 22 21:27 BST (UK)
In 1915 Herne Bay college and Herne Bay New College combined and operated from the New college buildings.
Then at the end of 1917 they moved up to Oxford  to premises “occupied by a Ladies college near the Parks”. (I suppose the ladies had to go home and knit socks).

This from The Oxford Chronicle Nov 23 1917.
There is a bit more history in the article.

Looks as though they were back at the Eddington grounds as Herne Bay College by January 1919.
Title: Re: Herne Bay Public School
Post by: tilly25 on Tuesday 31 May 22 22:01 BST (UK)
My father Harry Behn born 1901 Nestor Cheshire, took his stepfathers surname of Shawcross following an acrimonious divorce of his parents. So he would have been 15 when the shorthand competition took place, I have never been able to find what happened during his early years, not recorded on 1911 census. So finding this information about Herne Bay I thought I may have cracked the enigma
Title: Re: Herne Bay Public School
Post by: mckha489 on Tuesday 31 May 22 22:04 BST (UK)
The Harry Shawcross who won the shorthand medal was “of Liverpool”
Title: Re: Herne Bay Public School
Post by: tilly25 on Tuesday 31 May 22 22:05 BST (UK)
That’s correct, his father was a sugar merchant working in Liverpool of German origin  2 generations ago
Title: Re: Herne Bay Public School
Post by: mckha489 on Tuesday 31 May 22 22:15 BST (UK)
He would have still been Behn in 1911 wouldn’t he? If the divorce wasn’t until 1912.

I can see his father in 1911. Where was his mother?
Title: Re: Herne Bay Public School
Post by: tilly25 on Tuesday 31 May 22 22:20 BST (UK)
Don’t know Rachel was in the isle of Man  during the divorce, have looked at the address there nothing found, my fathers brother was staying with his mothers sister on the Isle of Man for 1911 census

Percy C Shawcross  ( future step father) was with his sister for 1911 census
Title: Re: Herne Bay Public School
Post by: mckha489 on Wednesday 01 June 22 02:39 BST (UK)
I suppose you have to rule out all the other Harry Shawcrosses.
And if none of the, seem likely candidates to be Harry Shawcross of Liverpool , then that one is more likely to be yours than not.

Births Dec 1900   (>99%)
SHAWCROSS    Harry        Ashton    8d   547    

Births Jun 1902   (>99%)
Shawcross    Harry        Stockport    8a   24    

Births Dec 1902
SHAWCROSS    Harry        Barton I.    8c   688   
SHAWCROSS    Harry        Oldham    8d   640


There is a Herne Bay  Historical Society. An approach to them might be useful?

https://www.hbhrs.org/

They have this publication

https://www.hbhrs.org/schools-and-colleges-in-the-herne-bay-area-50

Title: Re: Herne Bay Public School
Post by: tilly25 on Wednesday 01 June 22 07:45 BST (UK)
Thanks for your help will definitely contact the Herne Bay group.

I have the certificate from the shorthand competition which doesn’t give any added info

I have my fathers birth certificate and his deed poll certificate for legal change of name.
 I have found him in 1921 census and 1939 register, will have to live with the gaps in his childhood and war time

Thanks again much appreciated