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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Lanarkshire => Topic started by: raa on Wednesday 08 June 22 06:36 BST (UK)

Title: trying to find parents for Murdoch children
Post by: raa on Wednesday 08 June 22 06:36 BST (UK)
hi trying to find parents of Joseph Blair Murdoch b 14 april 1907 Annie Cunningham Murdoch b 3 april 1911Robina Cunningham Murdoch b 12 june 1917 abt 1918 there living with Annie gilmour formally Murdoch in kilmarnoch shes widow they appear on ww1 pension ledger after death of her husband shes from lanark lanarlshire i think there probable her nephews and niece but cant find anything to cornfirm that any help appreciated
Title: Re: trying to find parents for Murdoch children
Post by: wivenhoe on Wednesday 08 June 22 07:07 BST (UK)
" they appear on ww1 pension ledger after death of her husband"

Why are they named on the pension legder?

Are they described as dependents?

Did the GILMOUR couple have children?
Title: Re: trying to find parents for Murdoch children
Post by: raa on Wednesday 08 June 22 07:21 BST (UK)
yes they had children 2 that i know of james gilmour born 1904 and william Blair gilmour b 1900 wishaw williams on 1901 cencus but not on ledger his brother james is on ledger i dont acess to original 
Title: Re: trying to find parents for Murdoch children
Post by: wivenhoe on Wednesday 08 June 22 07:26 BST (UK)


Can you clarify please - you do not have access to the ledger, and you are using information given to you by someone?

I think you need to see the ledger. It should indicate why the MURDOCH children appear on the document. Context is important.
Title: Re: trying to find parents for Murdoch children
Post by: raa on Wednesday 08 June 22 07:30 BST (UK)
Name   Relation to Soldier
George Gilmour   
Annie. Gilmour   Widow
James. Gilmour   Child
Joseph Blair Murdoch.   Children
Annie Cunningham Murdoch.   Children
Robina Cunningham Murdoch   Children
Title: Re: trying to find parents for Murdoch children
Post by: raa on Wednesday 08 June 22 07:31 BST (UK)
Name:   George Gilmour
Gender:   Male
Rank:   Bdr
Record Type:   Card
Death Date:   19 Nov 1918
Service Number:   193115
Corps, Regiment or Unit:   190 Brigade R. F. A.
Title:   WWI Pension Record Cards and Ledgers
Description:   Other Ranks Died Gilmaney J-Gladish D
Reference Number:   1/WG/422
Title: Re: trying to find parents for Murdoch children
Post by: amondg on Wednesday 08 June 22 07:56 BST (UK)
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Title: Re: trying to find parents for Murdoch children
Post by: amondg on Wednesday 08 June 22 08:10 BST (UK)

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Wrong family

Title: Re: trying to find parents for Murdoch children
Post by: raa on Wednesday 08 June 22 08:13 BST (UK)
Robert and Joseph are her brothers not sure abt william i dont think the 3 children on ledger  would be her siblings she already had brother Joseph born in 1889
Title: Re: trying to find parents for Murdoch children
Post by: amondg on Wednesday 08 June 22 08:15 BST (UK)


Wrong family
Title: Re: trying to find parents for Murdoch children
Post by: raa on Wednesday 08 June 22 08:26 BST (UK)
Anns Parents are James Murdoch and Ann Cunningham 1881 cencus age 2 months lanark lanarkshire joseph blair murdoch cannot be her brother she has brother born 1889 i think its nephew why isnt there scotland cencus for 1911
Title: Re: trying to find parents for Murdoch children
Post by: Jamjar on Wednesday 08 June 22 08:35 BST (UK)
Marriage: 1938 629/ 17 Carluke MURDOCH Annie Cunningham to DUNLAY James

Death: 1998 602/ 766 Glasgow, Martha St DUNLAY Annie Cunningham aged 85 mmn IZZET

Jamjar

Title: Re: trying to find parents for Murdoch children
Post by: raa on Wednesday 08 June 22 08:41 BST (UK)
oooh interesting marriage does it give Annie parents on that many thanks
Title: Re: trying to find parents for Murdoch children
Post by: Jamjar on Wednesday 08 June 22 08:48 BST (UK)
oooh interesting marriage does it give Annie parents on that many thanks

You will need to purchase credits to view.

I see only 1 birth of that name: 1915 644/4 109 Dennistoun MURDOCH Robina Cunningham

There is this:  1902 644/3 320 Dennistoun MURDOCH Janet Blair

Jamjar
Title: Re: trying to find parents for Murdoch children
Post by: raa on Wednesday 08 June 22 08:53 BST (UK)
many thanks purchase credits on what site im member on ancestry is that info on another site
Title: Re: trying to find parents for Murdoch children
Post by: Jamjar on Wednesday 08 June 22 08:56 BST (UK)
scotlandspeople.gov.uk

Jamjar
Title: Re: trying to find parents for Murdoch children
Post by: raa on Wednesday 08 June 22 09:47 BST (UK)
thank you
Title: Re: trying to find parents for Murdoch children
Post by: wivenhoe on Wednesday 08 June 22 11:03 BST (UK)

www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk


births
GILMOUR Joseph Blair Mu        1907   629/ 88      Carluke
GILMOUR Annie  Cunningha     1911  629/ 66      Carluke
GILMOUR Robina C Murdoc       1917   611/1 39   Riccarton
Title: Re: trying to find parents for Murdoch children
Post by: wivenhoe on Wednesday 08 June 22 11:24 BST (UK)

They are GILMOUR children, with MURDOCH included as a given name.
Title: Re: trying to find parents for Murdoch children
Post by: Forfarian on Wednesday 08 June 22 12:30 BST (UK)
many thanks purchase credits on what site im member on ancestry is that info on another site
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=714261.0
Title: Re: trying to find parents for Murdoch children
Post by: wivenhoe on Wednesday 08 June 22 13:35 BST (UK)
My correction her...Annie MURDOCH

This is the entry on the ledger -

Name   Relation to Soldier
George Gilmour   
Annie. Gilmour   Widow
James. Gilmour   Child
Joseph Blair Murdoch.   Children
Annie Cunningham Murdoch.   Children
Robina Cunningham Murdoch   Children

I am suggesting that these are four children born to George GILMOUR and Annie MURDOCH.

James GILMOUR
Joseph Blair Murdoch GILMOUR
Annie Cunningham Murdoch GILMOUR
Robina Cunningham Murdoch GILMOUR.
Title: Re: trying to find parents for Murdoch children
Post by: raa on Wednesday 08 June 22 17:59 BST (UK)
thanks everyone
Title: Re: trying to find parents for Murdoch children
Post by: cm20 on Wednesday 29 March 23 02:41 BST (UK)
my great great great grandparents were James Blair Murdoch b 1846 (approx) & Ann Cunningham b 1859 I wonder if there is a relation