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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Armagh => Topic started by: danieloftyne on Sunday 17 July 22 14:52 BST (UK)
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Hi all I'm hoping someone can help me I'm looking to ascertain whether one of my irish relatives who was married in armagh in 1845 went on to have children I can't find anything on FindMyPast his name was James tipping and he married Sarah Jane rimmins on 1st October 1845 aged 19 hope anyone can help. Many thanks in advance
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Civil registration of non-Catholic marriages began 1845 (Catholic ones from 1864) and checking GRONI's index of civil registrations shows no such marriage (using surname beginning with 'tip' in 1845) which suggests that it was likely a Catholic ceremony if it took place in Ireland. Therefore, the only official record would be in a church register.
Civil registration of births also began in 1864 so if any children were born in Ireland before that date you need to search for baptism records.
Many Catholic Parish registers are online (free)- https://registers.nli.ie/
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might be total coincidence, it's in Tyrone rather than Armagh and 20 years later but other details match, FamilySearch partial civil records has a marriage of James Tipping and Sarah Jane Rimmins 1st October 1865 (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FGDF-D8C) ?
The index lists this under Dungannon with the bride's surname as Kimmins/Kummins/Rimmins, it should be available to view when IrishGenealogy gets back in action
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So not even close to 1845 :-\
This record says Moy, Dungannon for location-
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QGV8-D548
This one Clonfeacle-
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FGDF-D8C
1901 census has a James Tipping with wife Sarah born c1837- if this is the same couple then Sarah too young to marry in 1845?
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q518-7SZM
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Armagh/Tullyroan/Derryscollip/1016279/
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A million apologies to you both yes you are correct it was indeed 1865 old age catching up on me ha ha I just need to find any children they might have had
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A million apologies to you both yes you are correct it was indeed 1865 old age catching up on me ha ha I just need to find any children they might have had
Where are you looking for the children? Have you tried:
Family Search
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/irish
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Have you tried:
Family Search
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/irish
The bottom one gives a 404 Error!
See http://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/civil-search.jsp (which is currently down) - now back up
Also FamilySearch Ireland-
https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/list/?fcs=placeId%3A1927084&ec=region%3AUNITED_KINGDOM_IRELAND%2CplaceId%3A1927084
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might be total coincidence, it's in Tyrone rather than Armagh and 20 years later but other details match, FamilySearch partial civil records has a marriage of James Tipping and Sarah Jane Rimmins 1st October 1865 ?
The index lists this under Dungannon with the bride's surname as Kimmins/Kummins/Rimmins, it should be available to view when IrishGenealogy gets back in action
Link-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1865/11588/8264345.pdf
Derryscollop townland
https://www.townlands.ie/armagh/oneilland-west/clonfeacle-tyrone-portion/tullyroan/derryscollop/
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James Tipping death - informant Robert Anderson, nephew
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1909/05473/4531763.pdf
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Robert Anderson has his mother Jane with him in 1901
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Armagh/Tullyroan/Derryscollip/1016287/
Marriage of James Anderson and Jane Tipping
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1857/09530/5454687.pdf