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Title: Looking for Sarah Ann Shelton
Post by: Kaybron on Sunday 24 July 22 13:11 BST (UK)
I am trying to find a birth record and Census material for Sarah Ann Shelton.  She married a Frank Etherington on 25 December 1888 at St John's Church, Walworth, Surrey.  Sarah gives her age as 26 and her father is John Skelton (deceased).

I have been able to find Sarah Ann in the 1891, 1901, 1911 and 1921 Census.  In all of these she gives her birth place as Bolton, Lancashire.  Her birth years range from 1863 to 1865 on these.  On the 1921 Census, Sarah gives her age as 59 years and 6 months. 

I do have a birth record for a Sarah Ann Shelton, 15 January 1864, Regent Road Salford, Lancaster.  Parents are Sarah Jane Shelton (formerly Smith) and Alfred Shelton (machine fitter, journeyman).  I am not sure if this is the correct one as father is Alfred and not John.

I have not been able to find Sarah Ann on any Census material prior to 1891, ie in her maiden name.  I would like some help in trying to find Sarah Ann's birth registration, assuming the one I have is not correct, and also in the 1871 and 1881 Census.

Kaybron
Title: Re: Looking for Sarah Ann Shelton
Post by: wivenhoe on Sunday 24 July 22 13:43 BST (UK)
Ancestry London BDM
St John the Evangelist Walworth Southwark 25 Dec 1888
ETHERINGTON Frank  bachelor   29y  brush maker  res: 14 Allen St
Father: Henry Charles ETHERINGTON   dec.

SKELTON Sarah     spinster  26y                             res:  14 Allen St
Father: John SKELTON  dec

Witnesses     Isaac WHITERING      Agnes RICH      (all parties sign)

Title: Re: Looking for Sarah Ann Shelton
Post by: Kaybron on Sunday 24 July 22 14:04 BST (UK)
Hi Wivenhoe,
I have searched for Sarah Ann using a number of surnames, including Skelton, but still have not found Sarah recorded anywhere before her marriage to Frank.   
Title: Re: Looking for Sarah Ann Shelton
Post by: Comberton on Sunday 24 July 22 14:08 BST (UK)
Death
Sarah Ann Shelton age 0
March 1864
Salford
Title: Re: Looking for Sarah Ann Shelton
Post by: heatherjulie on Sunday 24 July 22 14:13 BST (UK)
There is a marriage for a Sarah Jane Shelton /Smith in 1874 in Manchester to a Joseph Wright
Title: Re: Looking for Sarah Ann Shelton
Post by: trish1120 on Sunday 24 July 22 14:13 BST (UK)
Only Skelton I can see on LancsOPC with Father JOHN;

Baptism:
17 Jul 1864 Fletcher Street Wesleyan Methodist Chapel, Bolton
John Charles Skelton - Son of John Skelton & Ellen
Born: 20 Jun 1864
Abode: Bolton

This is the Marriage;
Marriage: 28 Apr 1860 Fletcher Street Wesleyan Methodist Chapel, Bolton, Lancashire, England
John Skelton - 21, Binder to Book Binder, Bachelor, Parrot St. Gt. Bolton
Ellen Hampson - 21, Power Loom Weaver, Spinster, Ebenezer St. Gt. Bolton
Groom's Father: Peter Skelton, Stretcher
Bride's Father: Wm. Hampson, (dead), Wheelwright
Witness: James Cordingley; Selina Berry

1881 Ellen is widowed and has a Daug Annie S  but born c 1869 ::)

Ellen Skelton   42 Stationer
Frederick Skelton 14 Grocer
Annie S. Skelton 12

Poss reg as Annie Sarah Skelton 1868

1871 John Skelton is born c 1839 Bolton

He died 1877
Title: Re: Looking for Sarah Ann Shelton
Post by: jonw65 on Sunday 24 July 22 14:27 BST (UK)
1881 Ellen is widowed and has a Daug Annie S  but born c 1869 ::)

Ellen Skelton   42 Stationer
Frederick Skelton 14 Grocer
Annie S. Skelton 12

Poss reg as Annie Sarah Skelton 1868

1871 John Skelton is born c 1839 Bolton

Annie Sarah Skelton married Charles Stevens, 1894, Bolton Register Office or Registrar Attended.

1901, Bolton
Charles Stevens Head 33 Bread Salesman, born Lancashire Bolton
Annie S Stevens Wife 32 Lancashire Atherton

So it seems that one is eliminated.
Title: Re: Looking for Sarah Ann Shelton
Post by: PaulineJ on Sunday 24 July 22 14:31 BST (UK)
Have you chased up on  the marriage address yet?
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=856892.msg7253923#msg7253923
Title: Re: Looking for Sarah Ann Shelton
Post by: jonw65 on Sunday 24 July 22 14:57 BST (UK)
Frank and Sarah Ann were living in Camberwell for many years, but possible deaths in Lambeth?

Frank Etherington, age 78, Dec 1937, 1d 244.

Sarah Ann Etherington, age 75, Sep 1938, 1d 190
From new GRO death index.
Original index (from image) gave her age as 57.
Title: Re: Looking for Sarah Ann Shelton
Post by: jonw65 on Sunday 24 July 22 15:01 BST (UK)
Burials at Nunhead Cemetery.
Frank Etherington, 11 October 1937.
Sarah Ann Etherington, 9 July 1938.

Doesn't look like they are buried together.
Title: Re: Looking for Sarah Ann Shelton
Post by: jonw65 on Sunday 24 July 22 15:16 BST (UK)
I am trying to find a birth record and Census material for Sarah Ann Shelton.

Marriage is Sarah Skelton.
Birth registrations of children have mother's maiden surname Skelton.
Title: Re: Looking for Sarah Ann Shelton
Post by: lancsann on Sunday 24 July 22 16:06 BST (UK)
I wonder if that death is not Frank's wife. At no time does Sarah provide a second name of Ann

All the children's births give the maiden name of Skelton as on the marriage certificate.

edit
Just checked the original image for that death for Sarah & agree with Jonw that the age at death is 57 not 75
Title: Re: Looking for Sarah Ann Shelton
Post by: lancsann on Sunday 24 July 22 16:16 BST (UK)
interestingly there is a Sarah Anna Etherington b Bolton living Camberwell in 1921 census. I do not have access to details
Title: Re: Looking for Sarah Ann Shelton
Post by: jonw65 on Sunday 24 July 22 16:23 BST (UK)
Hi
It may not be her death, I really don't know.
I can't find her in 1939.
She is Sarah Ann Etherington on the electoral registers, at 6 Albany Street, S.E.5, up until 1937

And, yes, that is Sarah Ann(a) in the 1921 free index, at same address.
John
Title: Re: Looking for Sarah Ann Shelton
Post by: lancsann on Sunday 24 July 22 16:49 BST (UK)
son Frank Henry Charles who died in 1917 lists on his pension record Mrs Sarah Etherington as his relative and dependent - rather than his father
Title: Re: Looking for Sarah Ann Shelton
Post by: lancsann on Sunday 24 July 22 16:51 BST (UK)
father Frank b1858 in 1921 census at the same address with daughter Rose
Title: Re: Looking for Sarah Ann Shelton
Post by: jonw65 on Saturday 30 July 22 11:19 BST (UK)
OP seems to have completely lost interest.
Title: Re: Looking for Sarah Ann Shelton
Post by: jonw65 on Saturday 30 July 22 12:03 BST (UK)
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Title: Re: Looking for Sarah Ann Shelton
Post by: Kaybron on Sunday 31 July 22 02:01 BST (UK)

Sorry to all who have replied to my original post.  I generally receive an email notifying me of responses but for some reason I received the first from Wivenhoe and the most recent from jonw65. I did not realize that a new thread had been started.

Frank Etherington did die in 1937, 3 October at Camberwell.  Probate records give his date of death and also mention Rose Mary Etherington, his daughter.  Sarah Ann Etherington died in July 1938 and was buried July 9th at the Nunhead Cemetery (Southwark), the same place as her husband.  The burial register gives her age as 75.

I will read through the posts that have been made and will look further into these.  I do have the details of Sarah's 1921 Census entry.  She gives her age as 59 years and 6 months.

jonw65, I have not lost interest.  Am still researching Sarah Ann Skelton/Shelton.  Have looked at many entries on the GRO Index and also on Ancestry/Find my Past and Family Search and am not able to find a Sarah that could fit.