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Beginners => Family History Beginners Board => Topic started by: Jim Webster on Wednesday 03 August 22 18:55 BST (UK)
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Think I am asking the impossible this time.
Looking for a marriage document for JANE KIRKWOOD and JAMES BRIGHAM (b 1801 on Holy Island).
They were living on Holy island in 1841
The 1851 and 1861 census' for Holy Island suggests their 1st child John was born in 1830 followed by births in 1834 and 1838.
I have found birth transcripts for 5 of the 6 children born in or after 1839. These show James Brigham and Jane Kirkwood as their parents so I am confident there has to be some document for this marriage.
As always any help is appreciated.
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Jane was baptized in the Scot's Church in Woolwich Kent
Born 16 May 1810 bap 10 June 1810
Father William Kirkwood - Gunner in the Royal Artillery
Mother Isabel
I expect he was posted to Northumberland and John and Jane married there possibly in an Independent Church/Non Conformist.
You could check the movements of the Royal Artillery to see where they were posted.
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1841 census (no doubt grandparents of the children)
Robert Brigham 75
Margaret 70
John 11
Robert 5
Mary 9months
The children are of James and Jane
1841 census
James Brigham 35
Jane 25
Jane 8
William 3
Margaret 9months
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GRO Index all with mothers maiden name Kirkwood
William was registered 1838 Berwick Upon Tweed-
Margaret was registered 1840 Berwick
Mary registered 1840 Berwick
Sarah Lilburn 1844
James 1846
Isabella 1849
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William Kirkwood married Isabella Dixon of Wooler Northumberland 16 February 1810 at St Mary Magdalene Woolwich Kent
Witness James Kirkwood and Mary Bunker
It looks like he may have retired to Northumberland as his wife was from Wooler he was death was registered 1841 age 55.
1841 census Northumberland
Pilgrim Street, Newcastle Upon Tyne
Isabel Kirkwood 50
Margaret 25
Mary 20
Joseph 15
William 5months
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Children of William Kirkwood and Isabella Dixon
Jane born 16 May 1810 bap 10 June 1810 -Scot's Church Woolwich
John born 1 April 1812 bap 26 April 1812 - Scot's Church Woolwich
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Margaret 8 July 1814 bap 31 July 1814 - United Presbyterian Wooler Northumberland
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William must have transferred out of England after 1814- 1821
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Marian born 6 May 1822 bap 26 May 1822 St Andrew's Reformed Church Woolwich Kent
James born 19 February 1825 bap 27 March 1825 St Andrew's Reformed Church Woolwich Kent
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Joseph born 5 December 1826 bap 14 January 1827 Wooler Northumberland.
William born 25 May 1829 bap 21 June 1829 United Presbyterian Wooler Northumberland- death
1830 Newcastle Upon Tyne age 1 (transcription ancestry)
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Not sure about the following need more research but parents are William and Isabel Kirkwood, so it's possible
Elizabeth bap 11 September 1831 Newcastle Upon Tyne
Freereg Elizabeth of Pilgrim Street father a Tailor --so she is their daughter, mother Isabel still at Pilgrim Street 1841 census
ADDED death 1835 age 4 Newcastle Upon Tyne
UPDATE
Freereg has bishop's transcripts for Joseph Kirkwood 1826 father William a Taylor
mother formerly Dixon and Joseph is listed as 3rd son
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Isabella Kirkwood death registered Newcastle 1853 age 65
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If it will help make a connection re: your other Brigham posts.
Robert Brigham married Margaret Watson 29 June 1795 at Alnwick
Holy Island baptisms found so far
Mary bap 11 June 1796
William born 12 May 1798 bap 6 June 1798 -1st son in register
James born 6 June 1801 bap 5 July 1801 - 2nd son
Margaret born 8 May 1804 bap 10 June 1804 - 2nd daughter
Robert born 27 March 1807 bap 4 April 1807 - 3rd son
John born 5 September 1809 bap 8 October 1809 - 4th son
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Spotted this in FindMyPast's military records
Royal Hospital Chelsea Pensioner Admission Books
Regiment - 3rd Batt. Arty; Gunner/Drivers - William Kirkwood; Date of Admission - 10 Oct 1825; Age - 38 1/2; Service - Private, 19y 273 d (written underneath "Waterloo"); Total service - 21y 273d; Rate 1/0; Cause of Discharge - worn out; Where born - West Ruthen, Berwick; Description - height 5'7", fair hair, grey eyes, fair comp; Trade - tailor.
Possibly "your" William?
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ref Amondg post
Thank you.
You findings are spot on and do tie in with my tree.
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ref hanes teulu
The dates would fit if he were Jane Kirkwood's father. I now need to find a marriage for William Kirkwood to an Isabel ? It seems that using a grandmothers maiden name as a middle name is a tradition on this side of my tree so 3 possible surnames are Moffat, Lilburn or Grey. The most likely is Grey which is Jane's middle name.
Thank you for your help.
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See reply 3. He married Isabel Dixon.
Children's baptism also confirms
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ref hanes teulu
Found a marriage in 1810 for William Kirkwood and Isabella Dixon.
It ties in with Jane's date and place of birth (Woolwich, Kent) and Isabella's residence (Wooler, Northumberland).
If it is the correct William you mention his birth would be in 1787 and could still be living in 1841. Time to search the census records.
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Apologies to amondg
Don't know how or why I didn't see your messages 2 to 4.
The first I spotted was no 5 to which I responded.
I will get onto this tomorrow and leave a message though, at first glance. your findings are correct.
Sorry
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ref Reply 2
All information ties in with my tree.
I have found another potential daughter for James and Jane.
Think 1st daughter was called Margaret Moffat Brigham (born 1831, died 1833).
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FindMyPast (transcripts only)
Marriage - William Kirkwood and Isabel Chisholm, 20 May 1803, place Westruther, Berwickshire.
Baptism - William Kirkwood, bap 20 Mar 1785, bap. place Westruther, Berwick, father John (mother not named
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reply #3 amondg
One very happy chappie.
All of the info provided seems to fit the bill.
Got a hint on FindMyPast to another tree which lists 5 of the children plus Elizabeth (1831).
Also looked at 1841 census without William then found a death transcript suggesting he died Qtr 1, 1841 aged 55 which would account for his absence on the census. The members tree has Isabella's parents as James Dixon and Isabella ? but no other details for either of them.
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reply 4 amondg
Got the marriage transcript, thank you. One outstanding thing to find then I can close my file on Isabella Kirkwood (nee Dixon) and that is her census record for 1851. Tried a random search for Isabella Kirkwood on the 1851 census only using birth as 1793 +/- 5 years with no luck, any suggestions appreciated.