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Research in Other Countries => Europe => Topic started by: LucasKernan on Thursday 08 September 22 23:36 BST (UK)
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Today, I was went and searched for my german ancestors. I can't find anything when they where in Germany (Except for Marriage in 1848)
Their names are:
Philipina Heoch
Born:1825 Hesse, Germany
Died:1890 Paterson, New Jersey, US
William Meller (Wilhelm Moeller)
Born: October 14th, 1828 Hesse, Germany
Died: 1905 Paterson, New Jersey, US
They had 5 Children.
If you can find any record of them, I'd appreciate it.
Best Regards,
Lucas
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Hi Lucas,
Do you have any idea about the town(s) they were born in? Hesse(n) is a state. It would help to know roughly where in Hessen we should start looking.
Thanks,
Karen
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Hello
Christening from the Presbyterian church in the USA may provide a clue to where they came from.
Wilhelmine Phillipine born 23 June 1871 d of Wilhelm Moeller of Red?maashussen Hesse and Phillipine Hoech.
Wilhelm born 20 Feb 1868 ditto of Oed/Ced maashausen Churhessen and Philipine van Ja
Catherine Elizabeth 1853 13.11.1853 Bisch hausen bri Escwege im ? Hessen and Phillipine of Mannshausen bri Eschwege
Emille 4 Nov 1855 the same.
Peter Frederich 12th April 1857 Bisch hausen bri Escwege im Ruof Hessen and Oedmanshausen bri Eschwege
Catherine Phillipine 25 Dec 1858 the same
Phillipine Catherine 28 July 1861 Ottmanshausen
Wilhelm Joohann born 12 Nov 1863 Schieder and Ottmannshausen
So they came from somewhere near Escwege.
other trees have Meissner with a German double s which is just west of Escwege.
Ciderdrinker
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I think this is what you are looking for.
Wilhelmine Phillipine born 23 June 1871 d of Wilhelm Moeller of Rittmanshausen Hesse and Phillipine Hoech.
Wilhelm born 20 Feb 1868 ditto of Rittmanshausen Kurhessen
Philipine van Ja ??Catherine Elisabeth 1853 13.11.1853 Bischhausen bei Eschwege im Kurhessen and Phillipine of Rittmannshausen bei Eschwege
Emille 4 Nov 1855 the same.
Peter Friedrich 12th April 1857 Bischhausen bei Eschwege im Kurhessen and Ötmanshausen bei Eschwege
Catherine Phillipine 25 Dec 1858 the same
Phillipine Catherine 28 July 1861 Ötmanshausen
Wilhelm Johann born 12 Nov 1863 Schieder?? and Ötmanshausen
Bischhausen
https://www.meyersgaz.org/place/10179001
Ötmannshausen
https://www.meyersgaz.org/place/20433071
Rittmanshausen
https://www.meyersgaz.org/place/20605014
https://www.google.de/maps/dir/Rittmannshausen,+37296+Ringgau/Oetmannshausen,+Wehretal/Bischhausen,+Waldkappel/@51.1448217,9.9926623,12.29z/data=!4m20!4m19!1m5!1m1!1s0x47a4bcdac32ea1c7:0xa224352a7b310e0!2m2!1d10.1306738!2d51.0882028!1m5!1m1!1s0x47a4b08e64cf4787:0xa224352a7b2c950!2m2!1d9.9743985!2d51.1399971!1m5!1m1!1s0x47a4b0fef5792497:0xa224352a7b2be00!2m2!1d9.9352321!2d51.1380777!3e0
Dave
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This site has the Church records you are looking for
You need to subscribe to access the records.
https://www.archion.de/en/the-portal/
Here´s Eschwege and surrounding parishes
https://www.archion.de/de/browse/?no_cache=1&path=177273-783089&cHash=ae3a288f6ae10eca130213abd55cdae4#https://www.archion.de/de/browse/?no_cache=1&path=177273-783089-783571
My subscription has expired.
Somone else had a quick look and found a birth entry for
Wilhelm Möller born 14.10.1827 in Bischhausen
Here´s the link, if you know someone with an Archion subscription
http://www.archion.de/p/05cf10ed35/
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Hi I am sorry that this member has not come back to thank you for your efforts.
Regards
Sarah
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Hi Sarah
yes, it is annoying.
Some people do not intend doing anything themselves.
They post a request and expect everything to be delivered without lifting a hand themselves.
I´m out. It´s up to him now
Regards
Dave
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Shame about all your hard work, Dave and ciderdrinker.
Maybe we should bear this in mind, for future reference:
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=861097.0
(Amongst other similar threads...)
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This site has the Church records you are looking for
You need to subscribe to access the records.
https://www.archion.de/en/the-portal/
Here´s Eschwege and surrounding parishes
https://www.archion.de/de/browse/?no_cache=1&path=177273-783089&cHash=ae3a288f6ae10eca130213abd55cdae4#https://www.archion.de/de/browse/?no_cache=1&path=177273-783089-783571
My subscription has expired.
Somone else had a quick look and found a birth entry for
Wilhelm Möller born 14.10.1827 in Bischhausen
Here´s the link, if you know someone with an Archion subscription
http://www.archion.de/p/05cf10ed35/
Thanks for your work.
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Shame about all your hard work, Dave and ciderdrinker.
Maybe we should bear this in mind, for future reference:
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=861097.0
(Amongst other similar threads...)
Having been caught out by this poster before with no thanks or even providing extra info to help in the search I am not in the least bit surprised ......
Sad really as you only find out after the fact of searching etc that the little act of thanks is not going to be forthcoming.
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Shame about all your hard work, Dave and ciderdrinker.
Maybe we should bear this in mind, for future reference:
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=861097.0
(Amongst other similar threads...)
Having been caught out by this poster before with no thanks or even providing extra info to help in the search I am not in the least bit surprised ......
Sad really as you only find out after the fact of searching etc that the little act of thanks is not going to be forthcoming.
Sorry for not for thanking everyone who has participated.
Also I bought the subscription for Archion.de
I went all the way to William's Great Grandfather. He was called Nikolaus Müller born around 1730 in Eschwege. He married in 1763 in Bischhausen to Anne Michaelin and a son in the same year named Johann George Müller (William's Grandfather). Anne died in Bischhausen in 1788.
It reads:
Anna, wife of the shepherd [Schafmeister] Nicolaus Müller, born Michaelin [read: Michael] [died] on the 14th [March] at 10’o clock in the night. She was 57 years, 7 months and 4 weeks minus 1 day old.
Here is some information on Shepherds:
Shepherds or shepherds (opilio = shepherd) were closely integrated into the corporate society. Although they were not dependent farmers, they were always dependent on their respective employers. The village community each employed a municipal shepherd, also known as a farmer's shepherd, who looked after the sheep of the individual farmers, while the official shepherd was responsible for the herds of the responsible landlord. The shepherds let their own sheep "run along". Not infrequently they came to unexpected prosperity.
I really need help with this sheperd. Whoever helps I'll thank you as much as I can.
*Bischhausen
https://www.meyersgaz.org/place/10179001
Thanks,
Lucas