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Title: Looking for Carl Johan Anderson born Sweden 31 Jan 1889 emigrated USA 1891
Post by: otterspotter on Monday 12 September 22 15:26 BST (UK)
Trying to trace Carl Johan Anderson. Carl may have changed his name to Charles John Anderson or any combination. Born 31/January 1889 at Kung Karl (Kungsör) in Sweden, he emigrated to the USA with his parents and siblings in 1891. Parents names were Carl/Karl Erik and Rosina Charlotte Andersson. They settled in Chicago 1891 - 98. Erik died 1892 and Charlotte 1898. Due to the fact their aunt worked for the philanthropist Nettie McCormick (widow of Cyrus McCormick)  they were sent to the Thornwell Orphanage were Nettie was a benefactor. I have traced Carl's siblings: Hedvig Johanna Anderson, Anna Teresia Anderson and Emil Ream (half-brother) but have yet to find Carl. Hoping someone may be descended or would be able to look him up. Have looked on Family Search and although lots of possibles none seem to have the right birth date or immigration year. I have lots of photographs to share of his childhood (his aunt was a keen amateur photographer) and post one here taken at Thornwell by their aunt Augusta Nelson. Any descendants out there? Edit: See further information supplied below
Title: Re: Looking for Carl Johan Anderson born Sweden 31 Jan 1889 emigrated USA 1891
Post by: otterspotter on Monday 12 September 22 15:42 BST (UK)
Trying to trace Carl Johan Anderson. Carl may likely have changed his name to Charles John Anderson. Born 31 January 1889 at Kung Karl (Kungsör) in Sweden, he emigrated to the USA with his parents and siblings in 1891. Parents names were Carl/Karl Erik and Rosina Charlotte Andersson. They settled in Chicago 1891 - 98. Erik died 1892 and Charlotte 1898 and the children were sent to Thornwell. I have him as a child with his sisters on the census at Thornwell Orphanage but have failed to find what happened to Carl after he left Thornwell. Any look ups for Carl most welcome although  I have traced their immigration from Sweden and the aduly lives of Carl's siblings so don't need any look-ups for them thanks: Hedvig Anderson married twice and had 3 sons. Anna Teresia Anderson died at only 15 in a tragic accident at Thornwell. Their older half-brother John Emil Ream was already working as a plumber and had not attended the orphanage.
Would love to know what happened to Carl. Where he lived as an adult, if he married, when he died and if there are are any descendants to share our photographs with.

 Topics on same person merged ~ moderator
Title: Re: Looking for Carl Johan Anderson born Sweden 31 Jan 1889 emigrated USA 1891
Post by: shellyesq on Monday 12 September 22 16:04 BST (UK)
When and where did his siblings die?  Do you have obituaries for them?  Do you know where they're buried? 
Title: Re: Looking for Carl Johan Anderson born Sweden 31 Jan 1889 emigrated USA 1891
Post by: shanreagh on Monday 12 September 22 21:07 BST (UK)
What date was the last census that you have found him on ie the one at Thornwell?

What was his Swedish name?  Anderson looks as if it may be anglicised from Andersson or Anderssen etc. 
Title: Re: Looking for Carl Johan Anderson born Sweden 31 Jan 1889 emigrated USA 1891
Post by: otterspotter on Tuesday 13 September 22 09:33 BST (UK)
Thanks for your questions: Census records place them at Thornwell Orphanage South Carolina from 1899. Their mother died in Nov 1898 and was buried in Gracelands as Charlotte 'Anderson'. Anna Teresia died in 1903. Grim details can be found online and at Find a Grave.
“Anna Anderson, aged 15, a native of Sweden, and a protege of Mrs. Cyrus McCormick, was accidentally killed this morning by the explosion of a piece of laundry machinery" (The Pickens Sentinal-Journal 28 May 1903)
Hedwig graduated 1904 - the orphanage records kindly sent me a photo.
She married in 1909 to Marshall J Peters. Chicago. Children were Fred H Peters b 28/1/1910 and
Harry Peters born in 1914. In 1915-1918 she remarried: Fred John Rogers of Illinois and the 1920 Census shows them and 3 children:Fred Peters born 1911. Harry Peters born 1914
and Warren Rogers born 1919. (I have made fruitful contact with the descendants of the Rogers family but they had no knowledge of Hedwig's brother Carl.)
Hedwig Johanna Rogers died in 1922. Winthrop Harbour hospital, Lake Illinois.
The orphanage have no record of where Carl J went after 1904, but think it likely he left around 1904 aged 15. Letters written to Mrs McCormick support that date and a theory he may possibly have gone to live and work with his older half-brother John Emil Ream, who married in Cook, Illinois in 1904 to Hannah M Brood. Ream later moved to Washington (Iowa) where he had his own plumbing business. He died there in 1931 age 50 (I have the death certificate and a local newspaper obituary clipping).
Carl's Swedish parental name was Carl Johan Andersson and it seems likely he became Carl John Anderson. But where did he go? I have found Swedish-born carpenters, mill workers, painters and decorators across the USA that almost fit and yet am unable to find a candidate with a birthdate / immigration date that is a true match...so would appreciate any help to try and locate records. (Swedish Household records compiled by the church will be accurate: Born 31/1/1889 Kung Karl, Kungsör, Västmanland. Emigration: 1891. I also have the family on the ship's passenger record dated 1891 so am certain those dates are accurate)
Thanks.
Title: Re: Looking for Carl Johan Anderson born Sweden 31 Jan 1889 emigrated USA 1891
Post by: shanreagh on Thursday 15 September 22 05:49 BST (UK)
What is the latest record that you have of Carl Johan with his surname spelt Andersson? 
Do you know for certain that he changed his name to Anderson.  (NB Many Scandinavians emigrants to NZ for instance continued to use their the Swedish or whatever spellings of their names)
Title: Re: Looking for Carl Johan Anderson born Sweden 31 Jan 1889 emigrated USA 1891
Post by: shanreagh on Thursday 15 September 22 06:50 BST (UK)

Have you checked to find:
a his immigration status ie was he naturalised?
b did he sign up for or was drafted to fight in WW1 or WW2?



Title: Re: Looking for Carl Johan Anderson born Sweden 31 Jan 1889 emigrated USA 1891
Post by: Lisa in California on Thursday 15 September 22 06:57 BST (UK)
Have you checked to find:
a his immigration status ie was he naturalised?
b did he sign up for or was drafted to fight in WW1 or WW2?

Shanreagh, I’ve been trying to find Carl/Karl but have not yet been successful.  I have not yet found his draft record from WWI. I believe most young men (in America) had to register during WWI?  Perhaps someone will let us know if that is true.
Title: Re: Looking for Carl Johan Anderson born Sweden 31 Jan 1889 emigrated USA 1891
Post by: Lisa in California on Thursday 15 September 22 06:59 BST (UK)
Trying to trace Carl Johan Anderson. Carl may have changed his name to Charles John Anderson or any combination. Born 31/January 1889 at Kung Karl (Kungsör) in Sweden, he emigrated to the USA with his parents and siblings in 1891…I have lots of photographs to share of his childhood (his aunt was a keen amateur photographer) and post one here taken at Thornwell by their aunt Augusta Nelson.

Did any other aunts or uncles live in America?  Could he have lived with Augusta or another aunt or uncle?
Title: Re: Looking for Carl Johan Anderson born Sweden 31 Jan 1889 emigrated USA 1891
Post by: shellyesq on Thursday 15 September 22 12:47 BST (UK)
I believe most young men (in America) had to register during WWI?  Perhaps someone will let us know if that is true.

Yes, someone born in 1889 would have to register for the WWI draft if they weren't already in the military.

This gives further information about the draft registrations.  https://www.archives.gov/research/military/ww1/draft-registration

Quote
During World War I there were three registrations. The first, on June 5, 1917, was for all men between the ages of 21 and 31. The second, on June 5, 1918, registered those who attained age 21 after June 5, 1917. (A supplemental registration was held on August 24, 1918, for those becoming 21 years old after June 5, 1918. This was included in the second registration.) The third registration was held on September 12, 1918, for men age 18 through 45.
Title: Re: Looking for Carl Johan Anderson born Sweden 31 Jan 1889 emigrated USA 1891
Post by: otterspotter on Saturday 17 September 22 12:05 BST (UK)
UPDATE: THIS ONE NOW KNOWN TO NOT BE THE CORRECT ANDERSON. (Thank you Lisa)
There was for a John Anderson, 1920 census living Elmdale Township, Minnesota with wife Florence. 1940 he is in Uppsala Village, Minnesota and 1950 Minneapolis. In 1950 census he is classed as 'naturalised' and working as a custodian in Veterans Administration...
UPDATE: THIS ONE NOW KNOWN TO NOT BE THE CORRECT ANDERSON.
Thank you Lisa.
All help welcome on possible records: census, draft records, burials, obituaries, Canadian emigration and deaths. Please view previous posts on this thread for details.
Title: Re: Looking for Carl Johan Anderson born Sweden 31 Jan 1889 emigrated USA 1891
Post by: Lisa in California on Saturday 17 September 22 14:54 BST (UK)
Yesterday I found census records for a John Anderson with a birth (1889) and immigration (1891) dates that would fit the Carl John Anderson I am looking for. However, no second name given and no corroborating evidence as yet to confirm it is him. On the 1920 census living Elmdale Township, Minnesota with wife Florence. 1940 he is in Uppsala Village, Minnesota and 1950 Minneapolis. In 1950 census he is classed as 'naturalised' and working as a custodian in Veterans Administration... so perhaps there are more records for this individual to corroborate or eliminate him such as naturalization record or military record? Help most welcome.

1920 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9RN8-CM8?cc=1488411&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AMWB6-KPB

1950 Upsala Village, Minnesota : https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QHN-PQHW-K67K?personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3A6F99-1KKL

Unfortunately, it appears that it is not your fellow.  There is a John Anderson, 1900 Elmdale census, born Sept 1888, immigrated 1891, parents August and Mary Anderson.  I will look around for this John a bit more to confirm that he isn’t your fellow.
Title: Re: Looking for Carl Johan Anderson born Sweden 31 Jan 1889 emigrated USA 1891
Post by: otterspotter on Saturday 17 September 22 14:58 BST (UK)
Thanks Lisa in California

Good to know. And at least I can eliminate him from the search.
Title: Re: Looking for Carl Johan Anderson born Sweden 31 Jan 1889 emigrated USA 1891
Post by: Lisa in California on Saturday 17 September 22 15:06 BST (UK)
Hi otterspotter. Sorry for not coming back here before now.  I’ve been busy with a few things and to be honest, yesterday I forgot that I was going to continue looking.  :-[  Good thing you posted today - it was a welcomed reminder.

You are very welcome - I do want to look around a bit more, though, as it is interesting that his details are so close to your fellow.  He did have a very common name so that’s not so unusual I suppose.  Their family names, if one can believe one census return were Augustus, Maria and Johannes.
Title: Re: Looking for Carl Johan Anderson born Sweden 31 Jan 1889 emigrated USA 1891
Post by: Lisa in California on Saturday 17 September 22 15:19 BST (UK)
UPDATE: THIS ONE NOW KNOWN TO NOT BE THE CORRECT ANDERSON. (Thank you Lisa)
Yesterday I found census records for a John Anderson with a birth (1889) and immigration (1891) dates that would fit the Carl John Anderson I am looking for. However, no second name given and no corroborating evidence as yet to confirm it is him. On the 1920 census living Elmdale Township, Minnesota with wife Florence. 1940 he is in Uppsala Village, Minnesota and 1950 Minneapolis. In 1950 census he is classed as 'naturalised' and working as a custodian in Veterans Administration... so perhaps there are more records for this individual to corroborate or eliminate him such as naturalization record or military record? Help most welcome.

1920 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9RN8-CM8?cc=1488411&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AMWB6-KPB

1950 Upsala Village, Minnesota : https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QHN-PQHW-K67K?personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3A6F99-1KKL

There were possibly at least three men with similar details?  ???
WWII Draft Reg
John Harry Anderson, residence Upsala, Minnesota.
Birth: April 4, 1889, Elmdale, Minnesota.

Title: Re: Looking for Carl Johan Anderson born Sweden 31 Jan 1889 emigrated USA 1891
Post by: otterspotter on Saturday 17 September 22 15:29 BST (UK)
Thanks. That really does eliminate him with that birth date and middle name.
Title: Re: Looking for Carl Johan Anderson born Sweden 31 Jan 1889 emigrated USA 1891
Post by: Lisa in California on Saturday 17 September 22 15:33 BST (UK)
1910 Elmdale, Minnesota census
John Anderson, Jr born 1889, Minnesota and,
Johannes Anderson, born 1889, Sweden

I wonder if the families were related as both sets of parents were born in Sweden and Elmdale is now a very small town (don’t know the population in 1910, though - perhaps it wasn’t so small in 1910?).
Title: Re: Looking for Carl Johan Anderson born Sweden 31 Jan 1889 emigrated USA 1891
Post by: Lisa in California on Saturday 17 September 22 15:34 BST (UK)
Welcome.  :)  I will continue looking for your fellow tonight, California time.   :)
Title: Re: Looking for Carl Johan Anderson born Sweden 31 Jan 1889 emigrated USA 1891
Post by: otterspotter on Saturday 17 September 22 15:52 BST (UK)
Thanks. Yes, good sleuthing! I don't think the Elmdale Andersons will be connected as there was no other Anderson family in the USA, as far as we know, other than Carl's half-brother John Emil Ream.
Title: Re: Looking for Carl Johan Anderson born Sweden 31 Jan 1889 emigrated USA 1891
Post by: Lisa in California on Sunday 18 September 22 06:48 BST (UK)
Thanks. Yes, good sleuthing! I don't think the Elmdale Andersons will be connected as there was no other Anderson family in the USA, as far as we know, other than Carl's half-brother John Emil Ream.

Apologies for my confusing post…I meant I wonder of the two other John’s born in 1889 were related to each other, somehow.  If Elmdale was a very small town in 1910 it seems coincidental that there would have been two boys with very similar names born in 1889, both with Swedish parents.  I believe a lot of Scandinavians settled in that area (in America), but it still seems odd.  Oh well, they most likely aren’t connected to your Andersons, so it doesn’t really matter.  When I find facts I just like all of the answers.   ;D
Title: Re: Looking for Carl Johan Anderson born Sweden 31 Jan 1889 emigrated USA 1891
Post by: Lisa in California on Sunday 18 September 22 06:58 BST (UK)
I believe you have Carl’s/Karl’s birth details, but is there any chance that his surname wasn’t Anderson? (I still have not found him in America, with his exact date of birth.) Didn’t folks from that part of the world at one time change their (childrens’) surname to reflect the names of their parents or grandparents?   Just a thought, probably not a good one, but I thought I would mention it.
Title: Re: Looking for Carl Johan Anderson born Sweden 31 Jan 1889 emigrated USA 1891
Post by: Lisa in California on Sunday 18 September 22 07:15 BST (UK)
Eliminated another possibility:
Karl/Carl Johan Anderson was born 5 Oct 1888, Dalsland, Sweden.
Lived in Los Angeles, California during the 1930s and after.
Title: Re: Looking for Carl Johan Anderson born Sweden 31 Jan 1889 emigrated USA 1891
Post by: otterspotter on Sunday 18 September 22 09:41 BST (UK)
Thanks for asking Lisa. I am sure his surname would have remained Anderson and 'Carl Anderson' was used in the orphanage records. He may have anglicised his Christian names once he left the orphanage but 'Carl (or Charles/Charlie) Anderson' is probably the most likely name he used I feel.

He left the orphanage at 15 so it may be quite possible that he changed his age/birthdate to appear older to get a job or enlist and kept that false birth date. That would explain the lack of a matching birthdate at least.
Title: Re: Looking for Carl Johan Anderson born Sweden 31 Jan 1889 emigrated USA 1891
Post by: shanreagh on Sunday 18 September 22 10:08 BST (UK)
You have mentioned this Aunt  Augusta Nelson. Where did she live and die?  Would it be possible that she may have informally adopted him? 

Also you mention the half brother, when did he arrive?  Could Carl have been taken in to this family?

What was his mother's maiden name and did she have any family already in the US? 

Did his father have family already in the US?

Did any siblings of the parents arrive from Sweden after 1891? 

Just throwing this in, in case he took his Aunt's name. 
a Carl Nelson born Sweden 1889 single naturalised 1907 is in the 1920 census as a Private stationed in Germany.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9RN6-LML?i=51&cc=1488411&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3ASP85-DMX

Maybe not died 1968 but born 10/12/1889.
Title: Re: Looking for Carl Johan Anderson born Sweden 31 Jan 1889 emigrated USA 1891
Post by: shanreagh on Sunday 18 September 22 11:22 BST (UK)
From Swedish Examination books 1886. 
Just has Charlotta rather than Rosina Charlotte.
She is buried at Graceland under Charlotte. 

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QL5S-NHDF

Was Rahm her maiden name or is Johan Emil Rahm a child from an earlier marriage?
Title: Re: Looking for Carl Johan Anderson born Sweden 31 Jan 1889 emigrated USA 1891
Post by: jamcat95 on Sunday 18 September 22 11:42 BST (UK)
Hi
Johan Emil's father was Johan Rahm/Ram:
https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0002151_00064#?c=&m=&s=&cv=63&xywh=314%2C1440%2C3600%2C1710

Ian

Title: Re: Looking for Carl Johan Anderson born Sweden 31 Jan 1889 emigrated USA 1891
Post by: otterspotter on Sunday 18 September 22 13:24 BST (UK)
You have mentioned this Aunt  Augusta Nelson. Where did she live and die?  Would it be possible that she may have informally adopted him? 

Also you mention the half brother, when did he arrive?  Could Carl have been taken in to this family?

What was his mother's maiden name and did she have any family already in the US? 

Did his father have family already in the US?

Did any siblings of the parents arrive from Sweden after 1891? 

Just throwing this in, in case he took his Aunt's name. 
a Carl Nelson born Sweden 1889 single naturalised 1907 is in the 1920 census as a Private stationed in Germany.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9RN6-LML?i=51&cc=1488411&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3ASP85-DMX

Maybe not died 1968 but born 10/12/1889.


Hi Thanks for your questions. His half-brother was part of the family and was 11 when they all emigrated together from Sweden in 1891. Johan Emil Rahm anglicised to John Emil Ream and was 18 when his siblings were sent to the orphanage, I have checked and there is no evidence of Carl living there but it one scenario may be that he worked for his brother's plumbing business, yes. I think that very likely. Mother's maiden name was Rosina Charlotta Nilsson . Her sister Augusta Nelson (anglicised) was already out there but we know for sure he did not live with her. Thanks again for looking for him.
Title: Re: Looking for Carl Johan Anderson born Sweden 31 Jan 1889 emigrated USA 1891
Post by: otterspotter on Sunday 18 September 22 13:30 BST (UK)
Hi
Johan Emil's father was Johan Rahm/Ram:
https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0002151_00064#?c=&m=&s=&cv=63&xywh=314%2C1440%2C3600%2C1710

Ian

Hej Ian. I knew that was his father - Rosina's first husband who died quite young - but had not seen this document, so thanks very much for posting. Emil anglicised his surname to Ream once living as an adult in the USA. He had his own plumbing business and made a success of himself and I think it quite likely he may have taken Carl in and maybe employed him; for while at least. I will post an obituary I found.
Title: Re: Looking for Carl Johan Anderson born Sweden 31 Jan 1889 emigrated USA 1891
Post by: otterspotter on Sunday 18 September 22 13:41 BST (UK)
You have mentioned this Aunt  Augusta Nelson. Where did she live and die?  Would it be possible that she may have informally adopted him? 

Also you mention the half brother, when did he arrive?  Could Carl have been taken in to this family?

What was his mother's maiden name and did she have any family already in the US? 

Did his father have family already in the US?

Did any siblings of the parents arrive from Sweden after 1891? 

Just throwing this in, in case he took his Aunt's name. 
a Carl Nelson born Sweden 1889 single naturalised 1907 is in the 1920 census as a Private stationed in Germany.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9RN6-LML?i=51&cc=1488411&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3ASP85-DMX

Maybe not died 1968 but born 10/12/1889.

Hi Forgot to answer your question about Augusta. 'Hedvig Augusta Albertina Nilson' (Augusta Nelson) worked for the McComick's in a position of great responsibillity mostly at Riven Rock but also in Chicago and Canada. She was born 1857 in Sweden. Emigrated alone in 1880 and after some years in New York as a servant to a Tea Dealer's family in the Bronx was hired by the McCormick family. She then worked in the USA from 1880 to c 1914. After returning/retiring to Sweden she died 1927 in Sweden. Despite taking a keen interest in her nephews and niece when in the USA, we know she had lost contact with Carl and Emil once back in Sweden. Her niece Hedwig had died in 1922 and Anna in 1904
Title: Carl's half-brother Jack' Ream's obituary and article
Post by: otterspotter on Sunday 18 September 22 13:54 BST (UK)
Here is an Obituary for John Emil Ream which gives some background. He died 1/4/1936 in his home town of Washington Iowa. I note he is known as 'Jack' so possibly Carl John also became a 'Jack' Anderson?
Does anyone have access to USA newspaper archives? Possible Carl (or Charles) John (or Jack?) Anderson also made the press as an obituary...living to a ripe old age perhaps. Note: emigrated 1891 and born 31/1/1889. He could have moved anywhere in the USA once he left the orphanage but Chicago where he had lived with his parents and his big brother worked or Washington Iowa (where his big brother lived from about 1920) are two likely places I feel. But then again, perhaps if he married he moved to wherever his wife's hometown was?
Title: Re: Looking for Carl Johan Anderson born Sweden 31 Jan 1889 emigrated USA 1891
Post by: otterspotter on Sunday 18 September 22 14:38 BST (UK)
From Swedish Examination books 1886. 
Just has Charlotta rather than Rosina Charlotte.
She is buried at Graceland under Charlotte. 

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QL5S-NHDF

Was Rahm her maiden name or is Johan Emil Rahm a child from an earlier marriage?

Thanks again Shanreagh. Rahm was the name of her first husband who died in Sweden in the 1880s. Did you find any note of cause of Charlotte's death? I suspect it was TB. This image is of Rosina Charlotte, taken in Sweden. She is on far right. Augusta on far left and third sister Anna (who remained in Sweden) in the middle.
Title: Re: Looking for Carl Johan Anderson born Sweden 31 Jan 1889 emigrated USA 1891
Post by: jamcat95 on Sunday 18 September 22 14:58 BST (UK)
I did check the death database here in Sweden for Carl Johan in case he returned with that dob and names. No hit unfortunately.

Ian
Title: Re: Looking for Carl Johan Anderson born Sweden 31 Jan 1889 emigrated USA 1891
Post by: otterspotter on Sunday 18 September 22 15:16 BST (UK)
Hej Ian
Thanks for trying. Given the lack of any leads, I wonder now if he may have invented a new birth date for himself; perhaps to join the army, navy or get married.
Title: Re: Looking for Carl Johan Anderson born Sweden 31 Jan 1889 emigrated USA 1891
Post by: jamcat95 on Sunday 18 September 22 16:01 BST (UK)
She then worked in the USA from 1880 to c 1914. After returning/retiring to Sweden she died 1927 in Sweden.

She arrived back in Kung Karl Parish, Sweden 5 Dec 1901 to live with her father.

Ian

Title: Re: Looking for Carl Johan Anderson born Sweden 31 Jan 1889 emigrated USA 1891
Post by: otterspotter on Monday 19 September 22 15:47 BST (UK)
Hej Ian

Thanks for pointing that out. Yes, she did return in the December of 1901 to take care of her ailing old father Lars but after he recovered we have letters and postcards that show she then returned to the USA from the Spring of 1903 and continued her career with the McCormicks. She returned to Sweden for good 1913/1914.

She also visited home in 1891 which is when her sister's family joined her and emigrated to the USA.
Title: Re: Looking for Carl Johan Anderson born Sweden 31 Jan 1889 emigrated USA 1891
Post by: jamcat95 on Thursday 13 October 22 14:35 BST (UK)
Hej,
I dug up Hedvig Augusta Nilsson's probate hoping it is of interest. It does state Carl Johan Andersson but no news of him unfortunately.
I have translated the first part. There is more. It looks as though she was pretty wealthy.


1. one major (of age) sister Anna Fredrika nee Nilsson, married to homeowner Johan Erik Olsson in Bårsta in Oija Parish.

2. one deceased sister in USA, Rosina Charlotta Andersson nee Nilsson's 3 children heirs, son Emil Rahm, son Karl Johan Andersson also deceased daughter, Hedvig Andersson's 3 children whose names, age and place of abode are unknown. As per wish their guardian, merchant August Theodore Larsson in Klippan, St. Sundby has been appointed.

3. one halfsister Amalia Sofia Nilsson in Kungsör born 18 Apr 1872, who shared the same father now deceased, of mother and Lars Nilsson's fiance maid Sofia Eklund. Amelia Sofia Nilsson although not of age is deemed of age and merchant Carl Olsson in Kungsör is appointed her guardian who together with Johan Erik Olsson and wife also August Theodor Larsson are all present at the proceedings. The probate was stated under oath by Johan Erik Olsson and wife, Anna Fredrika Olsson and was recorded and valued in the following order:



Ian


Title: Re: Looking for Carl Johan Anderson born Sweden 31 Jan 1889 emigrated USA 1891
Post by: otterspotter on Thursday 13 October 22 16:22 BST (UK)
Dear Ian
Thanks, that's very interesting. Hedvig Augusta is clearly aware of the death of her niece Hedvig Johanna who had died earlier that same decade. Possibly Carl Johan may have been alive at the time of the will (as was his older brother)... but it seems Carl and Augusta had lost contact if no address was given. Thanks for finding this.
Title: Re: Looking for Carl Johan Anderson born Sweden 31 Jan 1889 emigrated USA 1891
Post by: jamcat95 on Thursday 13 October 22 16:51 BST (UK)
If you would like the probate I can send it on to you.

Ian
Title: Re: Looking for Carl Johan Anderson born Sweden 31 Jan 1889 emigrated USA 1891
Post by: otterspotter on Friday 14 October 22 14:59 BST (UK)
Thanks Ian. Have sent you a PM.
Title: Re: Looking for Carl Johan Anderson born Sweden 31 Jan 1889 emigrated USA 1891
Post by: jamcat95 on Friday 14 October 22 16:45 BST (UK)
Hi
Any questions just ask.

1851-1855
https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0009519_00015#?c=&m=&s=&cv=14&xywh=120%2C412%2C3564%2C1693

1856-1860
https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0009521_00015#?c=&m=&s=&cv=14&xywh=76%2C335%2C3564%2C1693

1861-1865
https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0009522_00013#?c=&m=&s=&cv=12&xywh=132%2C113%2C5219%2C2480

1866-1870
https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0009525_00013#?c=&m=&s=&cv=12&xywh=201%2C237%2C5857%2C2783

1871-1875
https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0009527_00013#?c=&m=&s=&cv=12&xywh=176%2C352%2C5219%2C2480


Ian



Title: Re: Looking for Carl Johan Anderson born Sweden 31 Jan 1889 emigrated USA 1891
Post by: jamcat95 on Friday 14 October 22 17:08 BST (UK)
I noticed that 2 siblings had died early. I don't know if you knew but I'll post them.

Elin Amalia - Birth - 20 Jun 1862 - nr 25
https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/A0012333_00009#?c=&m=&s=&cv=8&xywh=270%2C191%2C5107%2C2479

Helena - Birth - 30 Mar 1859 - nr 15
https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0009543_00027#?c=&m=&s=&cv=26&xywh=113%2C2658%2C4833%2C2346


Ian
Title: Re: Looking for Carl Johan Anderson born Sweden 31 Jan 1889 emigrated USA 1891
Post by: otterspotter on Saturday 15 October 22 09:06 BST (UK)
That's fantastic, and an unexpected treasure trove. So thanks so much for doing that.

Title: Re: Looking for Carl Johan Anderson born Sweden 31 Jan 1889 emigrated USA 1891
Post by: otterspotter on Saturday 15 October 22 09:07 BST (UK)
And thanks also for the death logs. We didn't know about those.
Title: Re: Looking for Carl Johan Anderson born Sweden 31 Jan 1889 emigrated USA 1891
Post by: jamcat95 on Saturday 15 October 22 13:35 BST (UK)
The reply in #40 are their birth records. I found another sibling who also died early:

Hedda Helena - Birth - 17 Jul 1854 - nr 25
https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0009543_00012#?c=&m=&s=&cv=11&xywh=2741%2C2145%2C3488%2C1693

Hedda Helena - Death 25 Jan 1856 - nr14
https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0009546_00039#?c=&m=&s=&cv=38&xywh=232%2C1225%2C4306%2C2090


Helena - Death - 15 Mar 1860 - nr 9
https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0009546_00057#?c=&m=&s=&cv=56&xywh=373%2C2596%2C4482%2C2176

Elin Amalia - Death - 11 Nov 1870 - nr 22
https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/F0005266_00128#?c=&m=&s=&cv=127&xywh=771%2C1087%2C5107%2C2479


Ian


Title: Re: Looking for Carl Johan Anderson born Sweden 31 Jan 1889 emigrated USA 1891
Post by: jamcat95 on Saturday 15 October 22 15:19 BST (UK)
Hedda Lundström - Death - nr 11
https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/A0012333_00032#?c=&m=&s=&cv=31&xywh=286%2C545%2C5107%2C2479

Ian


Title: Re: Looking for Carl Johan Anderson born Sweden 31 Jan 1889 emigrated USA 1891
Post by: otterspotter on Saturday 15 October 22 18:38 BST (UK)
Thank you. Am I correct in reading that as cause of death: childbirth ?

Title: Re: Looking for Carl Johan Anderson born Sweden 31 Jan 1889 emigrated USA 1891
Post by: jamcat95 on Saturday 15 October 22 18:52 BST (UK)
You're welcome.
Yes, you are correct.

Ian



Title: Re: Looking for Carl Johan Anderson born Sweden 31 Jan 1889 emigrated USA 1891
Post by: jamcat95 on Saturday 15 October 22 19:09 BST (UK)
After looking at it again I think the word "barnbörd" is changed to "barnnöd". Which means that she died after complications during pregnancy. There is no death for a stillborn baby recorded.

Ian