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Old Photographs, Recognition, Handwriting Deciphering => Free Photo Restoration & Date Old Photographs => Topic started by: loobylooayr on Wednesday 30 November 22 19:31 GMT (UK)
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Hi,
An old photograph album has been given into my care. It's in a terrible state of repair - it was found during the renovation of an old building (in west of Scotland)
The album has been filled with a selection of postcards - some of landscapes/views, some novelty, some music hall performers but mainly family images. Sadly, virtually no names have been recorded - making it difficult to identify the people.
These two cards intrigued me because it looks like they were taken in USA? Can anyone help with the uniform the elderly gentleman is wearing? What date? And the ladies' clothes? Are they in 'costume' or do these look like everyday clothes?
Thank you for reading.
Looby :)
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The hat badge looks like it belongs to the Grand Army of the Republic
https://www.thehenryford.org/collections-and-research/digital-collections/artifact/331099 (https://www.thehenryford.org/collections-and-research/digital-collections/artifact/331099)
Which would suggest a civil war veteran. A little more digging should hopefully identify the other regalia.
S_L
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The hat badge looks like it belongs to the Grand Army of the Republic
https://www.thehenryford.org/collections-and-research/digital-collections/artifact/331099 (https://www.thehenryford.org/collections-and-research/digital-collections/artifact/331099)
Which would suggest a civil war veteran. A little more digging should hopefully identify the other regalia.
S_L
Thank you S L for identifying the hat badge and sharing that link.
Looby
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Can I just add to this post -
The thread title has been amended (I assume by the Moderator of this board) to include the name Loudoun - this is not the name of this family - I had given the photos the name 'loudoun family' and 'loudoun man' because they could not be uploaded with the original file name 'unknown family/man'.
Loudoun relates to the street where the album was found.
Looby :)
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Is there any mention of specific states? It would help narrowing down which post of the G.A.R. the man belonged to as the long frilled decoration is probably post specific.
S_L
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Is there any mention of specific states? It would help narrowing down which post of the G.A.R. the man belonged to as the long frilled decoration is probably post specific.
S_L
There is no information either on the photos/postcards or in the album - no names, no date, no location. I wonder if the photos were taken on 4th July or perhaps a date commemorating the Civil War?
Looby
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Fourth of July seems likely for the group photo. Difficult to guess when, 1910-1920s maybe.
S_L
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Fourth of July seems likely for the group photo. Difficult to guess when, 1910-1920s maybe.
S_L
Thank you for your ideas. Do you think the women are dressed in costume?
Looby :)
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Here's a quick cleanup of the one gentleman.
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Have you been able to trace the address of the building it was found in in the 1911/1921 census/1939?
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Have you been able to trace the address of the building it was found in in the 1911/1921 census/1939?
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This is a task I'm about to undertake. The album was only given to me a few days ago.
It will be my 'winter' project ;D
Looby :)
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Thank you, John 76 for giving the veteran a spruce up - I appreciate it and I'm sure the old soldier would too!
Looby :)
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Fourth of July seems likely for the group photo. Difficult to guess when, 1910-1920s maybe.
S_L
Thank you for your ideas. Do you think the women are dressed in costume?
Looby :)
I don't think the lady in the middle is but those either side of her might be.
S_L
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Thank you, S L - I think the older ladies might be dressed up in costume too. Just not sure why ;D
Looby :)
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Incidentally there have been attempts (example below) to compile a list of Scots who fought in the civil war though the odds of the gentleman in the photo being Scottish may be rather long.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-20544216 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-20544216)
S_L
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Thank you for the link. Still Looking, - apologies for not responding sooner but I didn't notice the email alert.
I don't know if the man is a Scot or not - chances are he could be, and the photo-postcards were sent home to family still in Scotland.
Looby :)
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Were the postcards postmarked with a legible placename or other details? If so, it might be worth looking into the most common postmark especially if the items have been sent more than a few days apart.
S_L
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The cards are totally blank on the reverse - so they have no postmark/date
I can only assume they were posted inside an envelope, or a family member brought the cards back to Scotland.
Looby :)
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The flag that the little girl in a light-coloured dress is holding may provide a clue. According to the internet, in 1912, the US flag had 6 rows of stars. In 1959, it was changed to 7 rows, stars being staggered in the rows. Her flag has staggered stars but I can’t see the amount of rows. Note: this may not have been a common occurrence when the photo was taken, but years ago, “pretend” flags were available that were not accurate (too many rows for the stars, etc.).
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Thank you for you input, Lisa in California.
Yes, it's not easy to get a good look at those stars on that flag. But I think the smaller flag in her right hand has six rows....but they could be staggered ???
Looby :)
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Can you read what could be writing on the ribbon? The online GAR ribbons appear to show localities and dates.
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The gentleman is holding a cane. GAR had annual encampments; there are online photos of canes from some of the encampments.
A thought, but possibly far-fetched…the man attended an encampment and upon his return home, for some reason the family dressed in period outfits? Another thought, a friend of ours used to be in civil war reinactments (his wife and children attended as well). They had very detailed period dress. According to the internet, that didn’t start until the 1960s. But, maybe GAR encampments allowed families to attend? :-\
Added: GAR annual encampments were from 1866 to 1949.
Apologies for not adding sources; I don’t like to add unfamiliar links.
Added: the bar at the top of the ribbon may have writing such as official souvenir, representative, (a) year, delegate.
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Thank you, Lisa in California/
Those are interesting observations about the cane and the encampments. More for me to investigate. I've tried to make out any detail from the ribbon, but I've had no luck, sadly.
Sorry, I had started another thread last night (before you posted) in the hope of getting some American help - and here you are too! I'm going to ask a Mod to combine threads on USA board, to save any confusion. I'm very grateful for your help and any more ideas you may have. I began this quest thinking I'd never identify this man.....but with Rootschatters assistance ....who knows??
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=868145.new;topicseen#new
Many thanks
Looby :)
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I actually thought it was beneficial to post the photo here as possibly one of our talented folks could get more definition from the photo, such as tweaking the ribbon area to possibly show any writing that might be on the ribbon?
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I actually thought it was beneficial to post the photo here as possibly one of our talented folks could get more definition from the photo, such as tweaking the ribbon area to possibly show any writing that might be on the ribbon?
Oh - that is very true - not being a techie person, I hadn't thought of that. It would be amazing if someone could do that. A Rootschatter did enhance the photo earlier but not zoning in on that ribbon, because I never requested it.
If anyone reading has the expertise to focus on the ribbon, I would be very grateful.
Looby :)
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Hi,
An old photograph album has been given into my care. It's in a terrible state of repair - it was found during the renovation of an old building (in west of Scotland)
The album has been filled with a selection of postcards - some of landscapes/views, some novelty, some music hall performers but mainly family images. Sadly, virtually no names have been recorded - making it difficult to identify the people.
These two cards intrigued me because it looks like they were taken in USA? Can anyone help with the uniform the elderly gentleman is wearing? What date? And the ladies' clothes? Are they in 'costume' or do these look like everyday clothes?
Thank you for reading.
Looby :)
Most likely they wouldn’t be, but have you looked through the photos to see if any of the folks in the posted photo were also in other photos?
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I will look at all the family pictures again later, Lisa.
7.30 am here ;D and I'm going to be out for the day.
What I will say from memory - I think there is another postcard of these people standing outside the house (you can't make out any features of the people - the house is pictured in full)
Other than that, I can't say I noticed any of these folk in any other pictures - apart from (perhaps) the little blonde girl - there are other pictures with a similar little blonde with a bow in her hair. Could be co-incidence. The other child could be Scottish.
Looby :)
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Seeing the photo of the house (later today) may give us a better idea of the location. Enjoy your day!
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Hi,
The third photo of the family/neighbour group minus the little boy. It's a great picture of the house, complete with flags hanging from the windows - must be the 4th of July !
Looby :)
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For various reasons, most likely boring, I really think the event has something to do with a GAR parade or an annual encampment. I could be very wrong, but I feel like they weren’t celebrating Independence Day. (Years ago, a history-buff friend told me we celebrate Independence Day, not the 4th of July - we celebrate the event, not the day. We don’t say Happy/Merry 25th of December - it’s the same concept. However, I rarely hear Independence Day mentioned, and I still say 4th of July.) ;)
The following is a link for an article about one of the annual encampments in case you’ve not read about them. I wonder if your folks lived in a town/city where an encampment was held, decorated their house, and the women dressed in period outfits (or they wore dresses from the era of the photo)?
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01rz5/
This is another good site for researching newspapers:
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/#tab=tab_advanced_search
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Hi,
The third photo of the family/neighbour group minus the little boy. It's a great picture of the house, complete with flags hanging from the windows - must be the 4th of July !
Looby :)
What a nice photo. Unfortunately, I’m not familiar with the style of house so I can’t help identify in what part of the country it was photographed. However, it does appear to be a triplex (three households). Perhaps it’s only because the photo isn’t in colour, but the grass(?) appears to be very dry: if so, was it because the region was hot with little rain, or because it was held toward the end of summer when some regions are quite ready for winter rains to begin.
Looking at the upper left window, I don’t know that I’ve ever seen an American flag put up that way. Seems rather odd. I wonder if there was a reason for it.
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Thank you for all your points raised , Lisa.
But first, apologies - I had hoped the two threads would be merged by now in the USA board - I asked a moderator yesterday but have not had a reply.
I have posted a photo of the rear of the group card on the USA board yesterday.
The card has the names written-
Gerat Radebaker
Mr & Mrs Jones
A little ???? from across the street
Mrs Huff
So this is not a family group - more like friends/neighbours.
I think the younger woman and the young girl probably belong to the house and the connection with Scotland is through them.
These people have no connection to me.
The photo/ postcard album that the images come from was passed to me via a friend. They found it during renovation work of a building- the album had been inside a wall beneath a window. It had probably been there for over 60 years. It is in a very dusty and poor state.
I will read up on encampments. Thank you.
I've been trying to focus on the ribbon, but can't make out wording. I believe the top portion of the ribbon is the Stars and Stripes.
The vertical lines being the stripes.
There is a circular medal attached and then wording below.
I'm not familiar with how Americans fly the flag - maybe they were not long in the country and unfamiliar with how to hang the flag ??
I agree the grass looks very dry .I wondered if the grass was not long laid ( if turf) or planted( if from seed) - it looked sparse to me.
I hope the two threads are merged today. I'm finding it difficult to post on both threads to keep everyone up to speed .
There have been a few suggestions to which Mr Jones won the Medal of Honor.
Thanks again for your interest and input.
Looby :)
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Hi Looby. Usually, when I mention a possibility for something, I mention it once or twice then I look for other leads. However, with this mystery, unfortunately GAR/G.A.R. has become an obsession. ;D
Medal of Honor was mentioned in your other thread. Is there a possibility that the “large star” could be a GAR membership badge?
https://www.etsy.com/listing/1200422860/gar-grand-army-of-the-republic
It isn’t identical to the fellow’s “badge”, but it is similar.
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I actually thought it was beneficial to post the photo here as possibly one of our talented folks could get more definition from the photo, such as tweaking the ribbon area to possibly show any writing that might be on the ribbon?
Oh - that is very true - not being a techie person, I hadn't thought of that. It would be amazing if someone could do that. A Rootschatter did enhance the photo earlier but not zoning in on that ribbon, because I never requested it.
If anyone reading has the expertise to focus on the ribbon, I would be very grateful.
Looby :)
Possibly this post was missed? Maybe someone might be able to clean up the medals a bit, please?
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Young girls with what could be similar dresses, tights and bows. Dated 1915.
https://www.loc.gov/resource/hec.06322/
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…I have posted a photo of the rear of the group card on the USA board yesterday.
The card has the names written-
Gerat Radebaker
Mr & Mrs Jones
A little ???? from across the street
Mrs Huff
So this is not a family group - more like friends/neighbours…
Since the people in the last photo are (now) standing in different positions, I’m wondering if
Mr. and Mrs. Jones are the couple, and the little girl is their daughter
Gerit Rademaker is the Civil War gent
Mrs. Huff is the older woman
Could Gerat be spelled incorrectly? Could the name actually be Garrett or Gerrit, etc.
ADDED: I wonder if the Jones, Mr. Rademaker and Mrs. Huff lived in the pictured house? It appears that there are three front doors - for three families. Maybe the “little ? from across the street” was one of the ladies and the little boy just wasn’t in this photo for some reason (but was the Jones’ son)?
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I have not found anyone named Gerat Rademaker or Rademacher. I think the first name was probably Gerhard.
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I have not found anyone named Gerat Rademaker or Rademacher. I think the first name was probably Gerhard.
Thank you, Erato . I've not been able to find a Gerat Rademaker or Rademacher either. It is very possible the name (names) have been spelt wrong - the person who wrote on the card could have been unfamiliar with the correct spellings.
Looby :)
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I'm a bit obsessed with these photos too, Lisa. I would love to be able to identify the veteran.
The girls do look similar - 1915 is maybe a lit earlier than I thought - but I'm no expert on dating photos.
I hadn't considered the house could be home to three different families. Thanks for drawing my attention to the three doors. Because of how the names were written on the reverse of the group photo- I am assuming the younger man is Gerat Radebaker, the older couple are Mr & Mrs Jones, and the woman far right is Mrs Huff. I have attached the reverse of the card to show you. The names are written directly behind the image they relate to (I think)
Looby :)
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A couple of quick clean ups
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pt2
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Thank you Mark Diamond, these are lovely, he looks so much more alive with a touch of colour.
You might be a person who could answer this question - is it possible someone could enhance the medals so that more detail can be seen? Or would the detail be pixelated?
Looby :)
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For those who might be interested.
Here is a picture of the album and a glimpse at one of the pages inside.
Looby :)
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I'm a bit obsessed with these photos too, Lisa. I would love to be able to identify the veteran.
The girls do look similar - 1915 is maybe a lit earlier than I thought - but I'm no expert on dating photos.
I hadn't considered the house could be home to three different families. Thanks for drawing my attention to the three doors. Because of how the names were written on the reverse of the group photo- I am assuming the younger man is Gerat Radebaker, the older couple are Mr & Mrs Jones, and the woman far right is Mrs Huff. I have attached the reverse of the card to show you. The names are written directly behind the image they relate to (I think)
Looby :)
I’m not obsessed with the photo, just the GAR reference. ;D Can’t seem to focus on more helpful suggestions. ;)
I agree, the names appear to be above the individuals.
Is there any chance the little girl (standing next to the little boy) in the photo you just posted is the same girl who is in the original photo? Could the little boy also be the same? The girl appears to be slightly taller in the first photo but it looks like the ground is sloped in the last photo which would account for the height difference. Could the couple behind the little girl also be from the first photo?
Very nice work by the folks who have cleaned up the photos (earlier and now). As always, the results are amazing.
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"three different families"
Maybe Rademaker, Jones and Huff? Rademaker appears to be in his 40s? and there is no Mrs. Rademaker in the photos so maybe he was single. If we could find a suitable Rademaker in the 1910 census with neighbors named Jones and Huff we could solve it.
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Not a problem.
Pixellation is an issue, so an option could possibly be to fo a high res scan on the medal area.
Thank you Mark Diamond, these are lovely, he looks so much more alive with a touch of colour.
You might be a person who could answer this question - is it possible someone could enhance the medals so that more detail can be seen? Or would the detail be pixelated?
Looby :)
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Is this Gerhard Rademacher a possibility?
https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/memories/KHWL-XWH
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I looked at that guy and discounted him. He looks awfully rustic compared to the man in the photo with the Joneses.
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Not a problem.
Pixellation is an issue, so an option could possibly be to fo a high res scan on the medal area.
Thank you Mark Diamond, these are lovely, he looks so much more alive with a touch of colour.
You might be a person who could answer this question - is it possible someone could enhance the medals so that more detail can be seen? Or would the detail be pixelated?
Looby :)
Thank you for your advice, Mark Diamond. I'm not 100% how to do that - I might need to wait until my son visits and see if he can help me. Techie, I am not ;D
Looby :)
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There's this guy in 1910 - Jerot Rodemacher in New Brunswick, NJ. There's a tree for him which calls him Jacobus Rademacher. Could Jerot be a nickname or was Jacob somehow mangled into Jerot on the census? He was 32 years old, married with two young children. I don't see any nearby Joneses or Huffs.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01rz8/
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To Lisa from California - I'm quite fascinated by the GAR too - it is a subject I knew nothing about.
Photos in the album - the family group with the little blonde girl - it's hard to say whether this is the same child. Same with the couple behind her - the lady's face is blurry (she must have moved!) I believe these photos have been taken in Scotland.
To Erato - I've looked for a G Rademaker on Familysearch records - not found one that seems to 'fit' yet - it would be wonderful if he could be found.
To Neale1961 - Thank you for sharing that link. I'm not sure. Interestingly the location of 'Clinton' jumped out at me...Yesterday, I looked at a record for someone who was either born, or on the Census at Clinton...If I could just remember who it was I was looking at ??? :-X
Thanks again everyone.
Looby :)
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There's this guy in 1910 - Jerot Rodemacher in New Brunswick, NJ. There's a tree for him which calls him Jacobus Rademacher. Could Jerot be a nickname or was Jacob somehow mangled into Jerot on the census? He was 32 years old, married with two young children. I don't see any nearby Joneses or Huffs.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01rz8/
Thanks Erato - he's certainly around the right age (going by appearance on the photo) - so he is a possibility. If only we could connect him to the others.
Looby :)
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Hi all,
Had a bit of a breakthrough this evening - so I'm quite excited....although puzzled ???
When I was looking again at the photo album, I studied a couple of names and random words which have been scrawled on the inside of the back cover -looks like someone has practised spelling some words on it and has collected a few scribbled and illegible autographs.
I noticed one faint name was Mrs Edward Bulger (I've photographed and magnified)- there is also the name Annette (surname is smudged) and a John has written his name a few times
I logged on to Scotland's People and looked for a marriage of an Edward Bulger in my local area. Turns out this was not a common name - only 6 marriages recorded, including one between Edward Bulger and Jessie Morton Ford in 1906 in Newmilns, Ayrshire (the town the album was found in).
I then looked for their deaths - but could only find what I suspect to be Jessie (aged 44) in 1932 in Springburn, Glasgow (I've not purchased credits to look at this yet)
I looked for them on the 1921 Census but couldn't find them.
I looked on 1911 Census and found Jessie recorded at Newmilns with a 2 year old daughter Helen. No Edward. So I wondered where he could be and decided to look on Familysearch....and lo and behold, I found the family on the 1920 United State Census at Cook, Chicago, Illinois. :D
Young Helen has become Ella (aged 12) and there is a 2 year old brother born in Illinois.
But the really exciting part was - their neighbours, directly below them on the Census are William T Jones aged 82, his wife Martha aged 74 and their son Richard aged 34.
Could this be the people in the photo? The Jones, Radebaker and Mrs Huff with Jessie Bulger and daughter Ella? I'm certain it is. The fly in the ointment is Willam T Jones and his Medal Of Honour - this man is not listed as a recipient. Would he be allowed to wear another man's medals in his honor? I'm not sure what the protocol is for that?
However , William T Jones was a Civil War Veteran - he served in the 13th Indiana Infantry https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9R6W-D7V?i=3&cc=1488411&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AMJ3H-LRH
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVYM-1B7Z
His grave is pictured on Findagrave. https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/135133668/william-t-jones#source
I'm so pleased I decided to check out that name - the Bulger family appear to have remained in the USA - Edward remarries. Until I look at Jessie's death I can only wonder how she came to die back in Scotland.
The album is not Jessie's album - I think it must have belonged to someone in her family (or possibly the Bulgers) and these cards were sent or brought back from USA.
Any comments or thoughts (especially on the Civil War medals) welcome
Looby :)
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…The Jones, Radebaker and Mrs Huff with Jessie Bulger and daughter Ella? I'm certain it is. The fly in the ointment is Willam T Jones and his Medal Of Honour - this man is not listed as a recipient. Would he be allowed to wear another man's medals in his honor? I'm not sure what the protocol is for that?
However , William T Jones was a Civil War Veteran - he served in the 13th Indiana Infantry https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9R6W-D7V?i=3&cc=1488411&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AMJ3H-LRH
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVYM-1B7Z
His grave is pictured on Findagrave. https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/135133668/william-t-jones#source
I'm so pleased I decided to check out that name - the Bulger family appear to have remained in the USA - Edward remarries. Until I look at Jessie's death I can only wonder how she came to die back in Scotland.
The album is not Jessie's album - I think it must have belonged to someone in her family (or possibly the Bulgers) and these cards were sent or brought back from USA.
Any comments or thoughts (especially on the Civil War medals) welcome
Looby :)
It appears that only the recipients can wear the medal. The following is not a government site, but I would hope that the facts would be correct:
https://homeofheroes.com/medal-of-honor/medal-of-honor-facts/
Not only is it not allowed, I wouldn’t think anyone other than the recipient of the medal would want to wear it - my feeling is that it would be a dishonour to military personnel. I would think that this would be especially true if the man in the photo fought during the American Civil War.
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Just going to bed here - it is very late.
Yes Lisa, I would've thought only recipient could wear it. The only other reason I could think of was if it was a father/brother/son who was deceased maybe a family member would wear their medal/s in a parade to honour their memory (especially if the medal had been awarded posthumously ).
I need to have another look at all this in the morning - particularly those medals.
Looby :)
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William T Jones mentioned previously lived in Chicago in 1920 at 7233 University Avenue. Sadly, the house is no longer there; there is an empty lot. However, using go*gle maps, the wooden houses in the neighbourhood have similar features (after a quick look, i didn’t see any with the fancy millwork in your full-house photo, though) such as wide front steps, basements, small front yards. I think Chicago could easily be where “your” house was located.
The fly in the ointment is Willam T Jones and his Medal Of Honour - this man is not listed as a recipient. Would he be allowed to wear another man's medals in his honor? I'm not sure what the protocol is for that?
I’m sticking with the medal being related to GAR. Won’t I be disappointed when you find out it is not GAR-related. :D
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Is this Gerhard Rademacher a possibility?
https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/memories/KHWL-XWH
I looked at that guy and discounted him. He looks awfully rustic compared to the man in the photo with the Joneses.
Depending upon the date of the original photo, I wonder if there is a possibility of the man (and woman) Neal1961 found is an older version of the Civil War gent (and the lady next to him). Perhaps older people have similar features but it’s odd how similar the couples look. The men have the same slightly slanted mustache/lip and the ladies have the same facial shape and lips.
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William T Jones mentioned previously lived in Chicago in 1920 at 7233 University Avenue. Sadly, the house is no longer there; there is an empty lot. However, using go*gle maps, the wooden houses in the neighbourhood have similar features (after a quick look, i didn’t see any with the fancy millwork in your full-house photo, though) such as wide front steps, basements, small front yards. I think Chicago could easily be where “your” house was located.
The fly in the ointment is Willam T Jones and his Medal Of Honour - this man is not listed as a recipient. Would he be allowed to wear another man's medals in his honor? I'm not sure what the protocol is for that?
I’m sticking with the medal being related to GAR. Won’t I be disappointed when you find out it is not GAR-related. :D
I've taken a look at University Avenue and there is a similarity to the houses with the house in the photo. So I'm quite convinced Chicago is where the picture was taken.
I'm pretty sure the medals are GAR related. Just perplexed about the Medal Of Honor being pinned on William Jones' chest when he, according to the Wikipedia list, was never awarded it.
Shaun J - on the other thread - has discovered info on a Gerrit Rademacher - who looks a good possibility for the younger man. https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=868145.27
Thanks once more, Lisa
Looby :)
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Illinois G.A.R. has a John Rademacher listed, though if Gerit was from Indiana then maybe he'd be listed under one of their posts.
http://www.idaillinois.org/digital/collection/isl7/id/2802/rec/1 (http://www.idaillinois.org/digital/collection/isl7/id/2802/rec/1)
S_L
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Illinois G.A.R. has a John Rademacher listed, though if Gerit was from Indiana then maybe he'd be listed under one of their posts.
http://www.idaillinois.org/digital/collection/isl7/id/2802/rec/1 (http://www.idaillinois.org/digital/collection/isl7/id/2802/rec/1)
S_L
Hi - I'm not sure Gerrit/Gerat was a Civil War veteran. I think he is the younger man in the photograph.
Looby :)
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Re Mrs Huff.
The spelling could be an incorrect spelling of the name Hough. Here is NZ we pronounce Hough as Huff.
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Re Mrs Huff.
The spelling could be an incorrect spelling of the name Hough. Here is NZ we pronounce Hough as Huff.
Thank you for your suggestion, shanreagh - Hough is a good possibility.
Looby :)