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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => London and Middlesex => Topic started by: oldhippy on Tuesday 23 May 23 08:13 BST (UK)
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I have a Matthew Locke 1540 – 1628 born in London, Middlesex, England and died in Pensford, Buckinghamshire, England. Married Catherine Seymour she was born 1548 London England died 1625 Pensford, Buckinghamshire, England. According to Geni her parents were Edward Seymour, 1st Duke of Somerset and Lady Anne Seymour, Duchess of Somerset. On some of the ancestry trees people have her parents as Thomas Seymour and Catherine. I think most of us know about Parr, not only that but this is royalty and I don’t think I have royalty in my family. Can anyone on here sort this out, I don’t seem to be able to see the wood from the trees and I get muddled up.
Thank you.
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What is your source for the deaths of Matthew and Catherine at "Pensford, Buckinghamshire", please? I thought Pensford was in Somerset.
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I think that any link to the Seymour brothers may be wishful thinking.
Edward Seymour was married twice (to Catherine Filiol and subsequently to Anne Stanhope), but there are no mentions in any of the online biographies of his daughter Catherine marrying. I can't find any dates for her either :-\
Thomas Seymour only married once, to the former queen. Their daughter died when she was two.
Nell
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What is your source for the deaths of Matthew and Catherine at "Pensford, Buckinghamshire", please? I thought Pensford was in Somerset.
Here is the link that I got the info from.
https://www.geni.com/people/Matthew-Locke-of-Pensford/308598542700004418?through=4886963149610021903
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https://www.rootschat.com/links/01sbb/
Curiouser and curiouser.....If I've read this right...This tree is saying Catherine Parr's daughter Mary married and had five children.
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I think that any link to the Seymour brothers may be wishful thinking.
Edward Seymour was married twice (to Catherine Filiol and subsequently to Anne Stanhope), but there are no mentions in any of the online biographies of his daughter Catherine marrying. I can't find any dates for her either :-\
Thomas Seymour only married once, to the former queen. Their daughter died when she was two.
Nell
Yes I understand that. I have Catherine married to Matthew Locke which is confirmed in the link that I posted to answer a question by another member helping me, if you would kindly look at that. Thank
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https://www.rootschat.com/links/01sbb/
Curiouser and curiouser.....If I've read this right...This tree is saying Catherine Parr's daughter Mary married and had five children.
I hope you can see why I'm in a bit of a state trying to sort this out. As far as I'm concerned something is very wrong. There is also this link look for Catherine Seymore (born Parr), 1512 - 1548 just down the page. https://www.myheritage.com/names/catherine_seymore
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I saw that one too...It's all a bit cock-eyed :)
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I have looked at the site from the link you posted.
I don't see any confirmation that Matthew Locke married Catherine or Mary Seymour who was the daughter of either Edward or Thomas Seymour. There are no primary documentary sources cited in support of this. He may have married a woman with the surname Seymour, but may well have been from an unrelated family.
Did Matthew Locke leave a will? Or perhaps his son?
Nell
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You are right all that I have is what is auto generated from Ancestry and copied from other trees. I haven't found any wills or other documentation.
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I agree with Little Nell. Before oldhippie relies on information, sources in contemporary records are needed.
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Where do you suggest I look? I don't drive or have a car and I live not far from Dartmoor Devon.
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What are you trying to achieve with your research, oldhippie?
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Finding out who are my ancestors on my late mum and dads side. This is my main hobby and it has taken me about 18 years to have got to this present stage, so I would like to keep at it. My goal is to complete it but I don't expect I ever will. Any type of info for my tree and its ancestors is to me interesting.
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Are you descended from a son or daughter of the marriage of Matthew Locke and Catherine Seymour? If so, could you post a note of his/her baptism record? And could you post a note of that marriage?
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No. He is just part of my tree. This is how far apart we are. This is Ancestries calculation.
9th great-grandfather of wife of great-granduncle
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Thanks for the reply. I was trying to discover what facts you have already established, with a possible view to helping you, but your methods seem different to what I'm used to, so I'd better retire. Perhaps someone else can help you.
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If I may ask what methods do you use.
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Generally speaking, I trace backwards using baptisms, marriages, burials, etc., and verifying each event from contemporary sources.
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I see. What happens when documents are not available, Some church records become damaged or lost and the further back you go documents don't exist.
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If documents are not available, you have to consider what other sources there may be. If there are none, the research may come to a halt or face a delay.
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I'd like to thank you for your help. Best of luck.