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Title: Hayes of Mitchelstown - related to McGrath
Post by: csjjpm on Monday 02 October 23 11:37 BST (UK)
Hi everyone
  I've a new connection to my family in Mitchelstown.  I was never able to track down my great grand aunt Bridget McGrath but I visited the family plot for the first time on Friday 29th Sep 23 and found her name on a stone attached to the side along with Doreen Hayes & Jimmy Hayes and her husband, their son, James Hayes.

Does anyone know about the Hayes in Mitchelstown?

Thanks
Paul
Title: Re: Hayes of Mitchelstown - related to McGrath
Post by: heywood on Monday 02 October 23 13:13 BST (UK)
Is this the marriage of Bridget and James - 1907, Ballybrack parish
Bottom of left hand page
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633696#page/134/mode/1u

Civil record (Rathdown)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1907/10099/5674449.pdf

James’ father is Patrick by the looks of it.
Title: Re: Hayes of Mitchelstown - related to McGrath
Post by: heywood on Monday 02 October 23 13:20 BST (UK)
The family in 1911
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Tipperary/Carrick_on_Suir__Urban_/New_Lane/839822/

What information are you seeking?
Title: Re: Hayes of Mitchelstown - related to McGrath
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Monday 02 October 23 13:57 BST (UK)

James Hayes transferred to Carrick-on-Suir, Co Tipperary.

Birth of first son - Patrick Christopher Hayes - 15 December 1908.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1909/01621/1649428.pdf

....and second son James Francis Hayes - 25 January 1910.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1910/01579/1636000.pdf



Title: Re: Hayes of Mitchelstown - related to McGrath
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Monday 02 October 23 14:11 BST (UK)
Can you advise on the graveyard location of your Hayes headstone and the year dates of each death?


Edited to Add:

Mitchelstown Parish Church Cemetery
Mitchelstown, County Cork, Ireland

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/260251694/doreen-hayes

Title: Re: Hayes of Mitchelstown - related to McGrath
Post by: heywood on Monday 02 October 23 15:32 BST (UK)
More Hayes names here - the same grave and McGrath details
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/260251632/bridget-hayes

Is  this is your information, Paul?
Title: Re: Hayes of Mitchelstown - related to McGrath
Post by: csjjpm on Monday 02 October 23 15:34 BST (UK)
Hi, I created these entries in FindAGrave today.
I'll make note to include this detail in my original question next time :-)
thanks
Paul

Can you advise on the graveyard location of your Hayes headstone and the year dates of each death?


Edited to Add:

Mitchelstown Parish Church Cemetery
Mitchelstown, County Cork, Ireland

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/260251694/doreen-hayes
Title: Re: Hayes of Mitchelstown - related to McGrath
Post by: csjjpm on Monday 02 October 23 15:35 BST (UK)
Yes I created this.

More Hayes names here - the same grave and McGrath details
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/260251632/bridget-hayes

I think this is your information, Paul.
Title: Re: Hayes of Mitchelstown - related to McGrath
Post by: csjjpm on Monday 02 October 23 15:35 BST (UK)
Wow, this looks promising.
thank you alot
Paul

The family in 1911
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Tipperary/Carrick_on_Suir__Urban_/New_Lane/839822/

What information are you seeking?
Title: Re: Hayes of Mitchelstown - related to McGrath
Post by: csjjpm on Monday 02 October 23 15:41 BST (UK)
Thank you that looks good, the father is correct 'Michael McGrath'.  Can you make out what the address is for James?  Rockeberry?!?

Is this the marriage of Bridget and James - 1907, Ballybrack parish
Bottom of left hand page
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633696#page/134/mode/1u

Civil record (Rathdown)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1907/10099/5674449.pdf

James’ father is Patrick by the looks of it.
Title: Re: Hayes of Mitchelstown - related to McGrath
Post by: heywood on Monday 02 October 23 15:45 BST (UK)
Could this be Doreen
Birth of Dorothy Hayes - James and Bridget
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1915/01375/1566189.pdf

Maybe her death - father James, a shopkeeper, Mitchelstown
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1931/04897/4327107.pdf
Title: Re: Hayes of Mitchelstown - related to McGrath
Post by: heywood on Monday 02 October 23 15:47 BST (UK)
James Hayes death 1947 - Still married
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1947/04582/4212144.pdf

The informant - daughter Joan..
Title: Re: Hayes of Mitchelstown - related to McGrath
Post by: heywood on Monday 02 October 23 15:53 BST (UK)
Thank you that looks good, the father is correct 'Michael McGrath'.  Can you make out what the address is for James?  Rockeberry?!?

Is this the marriage of Bridget and James - 1907, Ballybrack parish
Bottom of left hand page
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633696#page/134/mode/1u

Civil record (Rathdown)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1907/10099/5674449.pdf

James’ father is Patrick by the looks of it.

Rosscarbery - County Cork
Title: Re: Hayes of Mitchelstown - related to McGrath
Post by: heywood on Monday 02 October 23 15:57 BST (UK)
This could be Bridget’s death. The informant is Philomena Hayes, so you would have to find her.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1957/04390/4141360.pdf
Title: Re: Hayes of Mitchelstown - related to McGrath
Post by: csjjpm on Monday 02 October 23 16:03 BST (UK)

Thank you  this is really helpful.

Thank you that looks good, the father is correct 'Michael McGrath'.  Can you make out what the address is for James?  Rockeberry?!?

Is this the marriage of Bridget and James - 1907, Ballybrack parish
Bottom of left hand page
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633696#page/134/mode/1u

Civil record (Rathdown)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1907/10099/5674449.pdf

James’ father is Patrick by the looks of it.

Rosscarbery - County Cork
Title: Re: Hayes of Mitchelstown - related to McGrath
Post by: csjjpm on Monday 02 October 23 16:04 BST (UK)
It looks like Patrick Christopher Hayes went to the US as Ancestry has provided a record.  Birth Carrick-on-suir, last residence Mitchelstown, father James Hayes

Person in US   Mrs Hurley
Person in US Relationship   Aunt
Father   James Hayes
Ship Name   St Louis
Title: Re: Hayes of Mitchelstown - related to McGrath
Post by: csjjpm on Monday 02 October 23 16:09 BST (UK)
This is definitely her!  He obviously retired as an RIC man and moved back to his wife's home.  Her brother was a publican and grocer in Mitchelstown so they'd have settled in quickly.

Could this be Doreen
Birth of Dorothy Hayes - James and Bridget
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1915/01375/1566189.pdf

Maybe her death - father James, a shopkeeper, Mitchelstown
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1931/04897/4327107.pdf
Title: Re: Hayes of Mitchelstown - related to McGrath
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Monday 02 October 23 16:10 BST (UK)

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The informant - daughter Joan..

Johanna Hayes married Patrick Casey on 15 January 1946 at St Joseph RC Church, Limerick. Philomena Hayes was a witness. Johanna living at King Street, Mitchelstown.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1946/08717/5149139.pdf




Title: Re: Hayes of Mitchelstown - related to McGrath
Post by: csjjpm on Monday 02 October 23 16:14 BST (UK)
That is a fair trek from Rosscarbery to Mitchelstown!

Thank you that looks good, the father is correct 'Michael McGrath'.  Can you make out what the address is for James?  Rockeberry?!?

Is this the marriage of Bridget and James - 1907, Ballybrack parish
Bottom of left hand page
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633696#page/134/mode/1u

Civil record (Rathdown)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1907/10099/5674449.pdf

James’ father is Patrick by the looks of it.

Rosscarbery - County Cork
Title: Re: Hayes of Mitchelstown - related to McGrath
Post by: csjjpm on Monday 02 October 23 16:19 BST (UK)
That's lovely, her grandmother was called Johanna.  Thank you for this one :-)


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The informant - daughter Joan..

Johanna Hayes married Patrick Casey on 15 January 1946 at St Joseph RC Church, Limerick. Philomena Hayes was a witness. Johanna living at King Street, Mitchelstown.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1946/08717/5149139.pdf
Title: Re: Hayes of Mitchelstown - related to McGrath
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Monday 02 October 23 16:23 BST (UK)

Have you her birth record?
Birth of Johanna Hayes on 17 October 1916 at Clogheen.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1916/01325/1547639.pdf


Title: Re: Hayes of Mitchelstown - related to McGrath
Post by: heywood on Monday 02 October 23 16:28 BST (UK)
Marriage of Peter Hayes to Philomena Flahavan
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1940/08851/5200897.pdf
Title: Re: Hayes of Mitchelstown - related to McGrath
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Monday 02 October 23 16:35 BST (UK)

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Marriage of Peter Hayes to Philomena Flahavan
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1940/08851/5200897.pdf

...and his birth - as Peter Joseph born 4 September 1912
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1912/01470/1599171.pdf
He's also a witness at his sister Johanna's wedding.


Title: Re: Hayes of Mitchelstown - related to McGrath
Post by: csjjpm on Monday 02 October 23 16:52 BST (UK)
Amazing help from you both.  Very much appreciated.

Title: Re: Hayes of Mitchelstown - related to McGrath
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Tuesday 03 October 23 17:27 BST (UK)

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Does anyone know about the Hayes in Mitchelstown?

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The family in 1911
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Tipperary/Carrick_on_Suir__Urban_/New_Lane/839822/

Just adding three further siblings born from 1911-
(first two born Carrick-on-Suir)

Michael Gregory born 9 May 1911
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1911/01526/1619068.pdf

Mary Ellen born 28 April 1914
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1914/01409/1579289.pdf

Bridget Mary born 5 March 1918 at Clogheen
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1918/01277/1529771.pdf


Title: Re: Hayes of Mitchelstown - related to McGrath
Post by: csjjpm on Wednesday 04 October 23 08:46 BST (UK)
Thank you I've now managed to make contact with an in-law :-)