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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => London and Middlesex => England => London & Middlesex Lookup Requests => Topic started by: Katie Hiscock on Thursday 16 November 23 21:05 GMT (UK)
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I think ive got a pretty hard search on my hands,
The person in question is albert george moulden
born in Reading berkshire in 1868 baptized in 1869 in aug (baptized albert charles moulden)
lived in berkshire untill 1894 first wife died and married second wife moved to Broadway, Worcestershire for work with the post office
also lived in East Molesey, Surrey
last seen with his wife and children at 27 Stanley Rd, Hounslow
Occupation given as Upholsterer
he was working in the post office then suddenly changes profession
he seemed to have a seperate place of work for a few years between 1906 and 1908 in surrey Avern road and manor road
now i have looked in to every child of his and his wife and parents and nothing i cant find him any where, by the time ww1 starts he is over 40 so too old to fight. i thought maybe he was going by a differnt name but i have no proof that it could be him.
some where between 1921 and 1939 he could of died because on his wifes 1921 census record it says she married and he has been listed as not dead on most of his childrens marriage certs but on 1939 register it says widow.
Mary J Moulden living in Cecil Road Hounslow
i dont know what to look at next.. maybe a name change ? or is there any other way i can look for the name moulden, it has been transcribed as moulder in the past
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Ernest G Mauldon
Death Age 67
Birth Date abt 1869
Registration Date Jan 1936 [Feb 1936] [Mar 1936]
Registration Quarter Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district Orsett
Inferred County Essex
Volume 4a
Page 728
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im confused sorry what is this ?
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DUH - no wonder you are confused - You are looking for Albert George - apologies ::)
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I think ive got a pretty hard search on my hands,
The person in question is albert george moulden born in Reading berkshire in 1868 baptized in 1869 in aug (baptized albert charles moulden)
some where between 1921 and 1939 he could of died because on his wifes 1921 census record it says she married and he has been listed as not dead on most of his childrens marriage certs but on 1939 register it says widow.
Mary J Moulden living in Cecil Road Hounslow
i dont know what to look at next.. maybe a name change ? or is there any other way i can look for the name moulden, it has been transcribed as moulder in the past
A long shot no middle name and surname has no ‘u’ :-\ ???
MOLDEN, ALBERT age 69
GRO Reference: 1937 M Quarter in WOOLWICH Volume 01D Page 1501
Digital image is available cost £2.50
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Not the same person - I checked that one out earlier and there is an Albert Molden b Woolwich living in Plumstead in 1911. There is a probate entry showing he died 4.3.1937 at 69 Villas Rd Plumstead (1911 address) Probate to 2 married women - Ethel Mabel Parker & Florence Ann Hampstead - 1911 shows daughters of that name
Woolwich RD includes Plumstead
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There's a Mary Jane Moulden on electoral registers from 1918 to 1934 at 60 Colonial Avenue, Twickenham. In later years Agnes and Edith are also at that address, so she is yours.
No Albert in Colonial Avenue, however. There is a Harry James Masters up to 1922 - no idea what his connection was
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I think ive got a pretty hard search on my hands,
The person in question is albert george moulden born in Reading berkshire in 1868 baptized in 1869 in aug (baptized albert charles moulden)
some where between 1921 and 1939 he could of died because on his wifes 1921 census record it says she married and he has been listed as not dead on most of his childrens marriage certs but on 1939 register it says widow.
Mary J Moulden living in Cecil Road Hounslow
i dont know what to look at next.. maybe a name change ? or is there any other way i can look for the name moulden, it has been transcribed as moulder in the past
A long shot no middle name and surname has no ‘u’ :-\ ???
MOLDEN, ALBERT age 69
GRO Reference: 1937 M Quarter in WOOLWICH Volume 01D Page 1501
Digital image is available cost £2.50
not him he was the one that lived at 69 villas road and has done since like 1890 or somthing like that
i brought that one :(
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There's a Mary Jane Moulden on electoral registers from 1918 to 1934 at 60 Colonial Avenue, Twickenham. In later years Agnes and Edith are also at that address, so she is yours.
No Albert in Colonial Avenue, however. There is a Harry James Masters up to 1922 - no idea what his connection was
harry masters was the husband of one of alberts children from first marriage she died 1918
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what other variations of moulden is there,
moulden
molden
maulden
moulder
did he go back to berkshire coz of failed buiness
is he going by a different name
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There is a Harry James Masters up to 1922 - no idea what his connection was
There is a marriage between a Harry J Masters and Elsie M Moulden in 1914, so maybe he is a son in law if Albert had a daughter Elsie with either Selina (1st wife) or Mary Jane
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Just seen that had already been answered
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I think ive got a pretty hard search on my hands,
The person in question is albert george moulden
born in Reading berkshire in 1868 baptized in 1869 in aug (baptized albert charles moulden)
lived in berkshire untill 1894 first wife died and married second wife moved to Broadway, Worcestershire for work with the post office
also lived in East Molesey, Surrey
last seen with his wife and children at 27 Stanley Rd, Hounslow
Occupation given as Upholsterer
he was working in the post office then suddenly changes profession
he seemed to have a seperate place of work for a few years between 1906 and 1908 in surrey Avern road and manor road
now i have looked in to every child of his and his wife and parents and nothing i cant find him any where, by the time ww1 starts he is over 40 so too old to fight. i thought maybe he was going by a differnt name but i have no proof that it could be him.
some where between 1921 and 1939 he could of died because on his wifes 1921 census record it says she married and he has been listed as not dead on most of his childrens marriage certs but on 1939 register it says widow.
Mary J Moulden living in Cecil Road Hounslow
i dont know what to look at next.. maybe a name change ? or is there any other way i can look for the name moulden, it has been transcribed as moulder in the past
Albert does seem pretty elusive after 1911 census ???
You mention he was baptised as Albert Charles have you tried this name?
On any of his children's marriage cert. did it give an occupation for Albert?
Maybe he is a patient in a hospital somewhere with only his initials being used :-\
Did he leave the UK? Have you tried passenger lists?
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he was working in the post office then suddenly changes profession
That does seem a strange change. Working for the post office then would sound like a secure kind of job. Can you pinpoint when he changed?. He is shown as an upholsterer in 1901. What was his occupation when daughter Edith Hilda's birth was registered. Have you looked at newspapers to see if he is mentioned in regard to any incident which might prompt him to change his job.
And why an upholsterer? How did he learn the trade? His father was a police inspector, His second father in law was a farmer - so not from them.
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Don't know if this will be of any help
In The London Gazette there is
Albert George MOULDEN
Event date 30 Sep 1889
Department Post Office
Occupation Postman
And same name
Event date 30 Nov 1891
Department Post Office
Occupation Sorting clerk and telegraph learner
Albert G Moulden
Appointment Date May 1899
Appointment Place Broadway; Evesham
Industry Postal Service
Worcestershire 1900 Kelly’s Directory
Moulden Albert George, stamp distributor, Post Office
1891 census 22 Edinburgh Road Reading
Albert G Moulden occ Clerk. >>>>> married to Selina
1891/1893 Berkshire Electoral Register
Albert George Moulden address 22 Edinburgh Road Reading
1894 9th Feb Reading Standard death announcement of AGM’s wife Selina age 33
at 28 Cholmsley Road, Reading
1901 census Rose Hill, Berkshire
Albert G Moulden occ upholsterer >>>>>>> married to Mary Jane
1911 census 27 Stanley Road Hounslow, Isleworth
Albert G Moulden occ Upholsterer >>>>> married to Mary Jane
There is this Albert but no middle name
1915 London City Directories 1736 - 1943
Albert Moulden address 12 Horn Lane, Woodford Green
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Don't know if this will be of any help
In The London Gazette there is
Albert George MOULDEN
Event date 30 Sep 1889
Department Post Office
Occupation Postman
And same name
Event date 30 Nov 1891
Department Post Office
Occupation Sorting clerk and telegraph learner
Albert G Moulden
Appointment Date May 1899
Appointment Place Broadway; Evesham
Industry Postal Service
Worcestershire 1900 Kelly’s Directory
Moulden Albert George, stamp distributor, Post Office
1891 census 22 Edinburgh Road Reading
Albert G Moulden occ Clerk. >>>>> married to Selina
1891/1893 Berkshire Electoral Register
Albert George Moulden address 22 Edinburgh Road Reading
1894 9th Feb Reading Standard death announcement of AGM’s wife Selina age 33
at 28 Cholmsley Road, Reading
1901 census Rose Hill, Berkshire
Albert G Moulden occ upholsterer >>>>>>> married to Mary Jane
1911 census 27 Stanley Road Hounslow, Isleworth
Albert G Moulden occ Upholsterer >>>>> married to Mary Jane
There is this Albert but no middle name
1915 London City Directories 1736 - 1943
Albert Moulden address 12 Horn Lane, Woodford Green
hi there
i have most of what you have up till 1915.
the only thing i dont have in my ancestery collection is the london gazette a post man
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he was working in the post office then suddenly changes profession
That does seem a strange change. Working for the post office then would sound like a secure kind of job. Can you pinpoint when he changed?. He is shown as an upholsterer in 1901. What was his occupation when daughter Edith Hilda's birth was registered. Have you looked at newspapers to see if he is mentioned in regard to any incident which might prompt him to change his job.
And why an upholsterer? How did he learn the trade? His father was a police inspector, His second father in law was a farmer - so not from them.
the change seems to fluctuate
1891 he was a post office clerk berkshire ( but just says clerk on the census)
1900 worchestershire in the stamp department
1901 upholsterer on the census in berkshire
1906 to 1908 says upholserer on some directories and some say nothing but with the same address
1911 upholsterer in census
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I think ive got a pretty hard search on my hands,
The person in question is albert george moulden
born in Reading berkshire in 1868 baptized in 1869 in aug (baptized albert charles moulden)
lived in berkshire untill 1894 first wife died and married second wife moved to Broadway, Worcestershire for work with the post office
also lived in East Molesey, Surrey
last seen with his wife and children at 27 Stanley Rd, Hounslow
Occupation given as Upholsterer
he was working in the post office then suddenly changes profession
he seemed to have a seperate place of work for a few years between 1906 and 1908 in surrey Avern road and manor road
now i have looked in to every child of his and his wife and parents and nothing i cant find him any where, by the time ww1 starts he is over 40 so too old to fight. i thought maybe he was going by a differnt name but i have no proof that it could be him.
some where between 1921 and 1939 he could of died because on his wifes 1921 census record it says she married and he has been listed as not dead on most of his childrens marriage certs but on 1939 register it says widow.
Mary J Moulden living in Cecil Road Hounslow
i dont know what to look at next.. maybe a name change ? or is there any other way i can look for the name moulden, it has been transcribed as moulder in the past
Albert does seem pretty elusive after 1911 census ???
You mention he was baptised as Albert Charles have you tried this name?
On any of his children's marriage cert. did it give an occupation for Albert?
Maybe he is a patient in a hospital somewhere with only his initials being used :-\
Did he leave the UK? Have you tried passenger lists?
every marriage i have for the children says upholsterer , i dont have all of them and his sons who was the last to marry but in new zeland in 1933 says furniture maker, from newly found family members they say that he didnt get along with his son and ive been told to stop asking questions to the persons family members wife as it was upseting the elderly relative.
im not sure if he left i have got things in my shoe box on ancestery but none have any evidence for me to proceed with it, and hospitals i havent checked coz its hard to go by just initials
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I think i have found somthing in the find my past newspapers but i cant view it as i dont have a subscription, it was posted this year in january
https://www.findmypast.co.uk/image-viewer?issue=BL/0000727/19100507&page=0006&article=006&stringtohighlight=moulden%20upholsterer
its a bit jumbled in the preview but i see albert and mentions the work address which i managed to trace him at on ancestery
looks like some kind of incident
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It's from the Surrey Advertiser 7 May 1910 and says that Albert Hanson, a 28 year old navvy of 5 School Road, East Molesey, was charged with disorderly conduct and assaulting Geo Moulden, upholsterer, of 1 Suffolk Villas, Manor Road, East Molesey. Not much more to the story than that I'm afraid.
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Interesting that he was referred to as George. Could be bad newspaper reporting, or he now preferred to be known as George
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Interesting that he was referred to as George. Could be bad newspaper reporting, or he now preferred to be known as George
yeah i thought that too but if the other person was refered to as albert maybe i just wanted to be called george this is actually helpful for me
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i wonder if i should look up george moulden now ?
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https://www.ancestry.co.uk/discoveryui-content/view/19612508:61265
albert wm george upholsterer ?
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Not sure why he'd change his surname to George?
Anyway, there's an Albert William George, upholsterer, living in Kentish Town with his family in 1901, so I don't think he's your chap
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Not sure why he'd change his surname to George?
Anyway, there's an Albert William George, upholsterer, living in Kentish Town with his family in 1901, so I don't think he's your chap
yeah i ruled him out aswell after a quick check.
idk why he would change his name to george, with this guy i think any thing is possible lol
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there was a duo metioned in the news papers called watson and moulden and they are advitising in the surrey and guildford advister, i think i breifly mulled over it because it was a george moulden name not albert, might be worth looking at again i think
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This could be your Mr Moulden from Artington in 1911. Forename Walter not born in Berkshire
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XW8H-Q87
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but i know where he was in 1911, its after i have a issue with
1911 - https://www.ancestry.co.uk/discoveryui-content/view/39526306:2352?ssrc=pt&tid=120618150&pid=320199583069
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but i know where he was in 1911, its after i have a issue with
1911 - https://www.ancestry.co.uk/discoveryui-content/view/39526306:2352?ssrc=pt&tid=120618150&pid=320199583069
The point I was making is that I think that the Moulden of Watson and Moulden that you mentioned as appearing in in a newspaper advert was Walter Moulden and NOT your Albert George. Walter Moulden is in the right place and with the right occupation to be the one in the advert in both 1911 and 1921.
when I said "your Mr Moulden" I meant the one from the advert with Mr watson not your missing Albert g - sorry for confusing you
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oh i see sorry :o