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Title: Where is James
Post by: jgm on Thursday 11 January 24 11:13 GMT (UK)
I am looking for assistance in finding
James McCurley born 1889 Dumbarton,
Parents Charles/Sarah McCurley.
He may be on 1911 ireland census.
However cannot find any other info ,marriage, death certificates etc.
Title: Re: Where is James
Post by: heywood on Thursday 11 January 24 11:29 GMT (UK)
Is this the James you think might be him in 1911?
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Bellaghy/Ballyscullion_West/607647/
Title: Re: Where is James
Post by: jgm on Thursday 11 January 24 12:43 GMT (UK)
Yes,however have not confirmed this?
Title: Re: Where is James
Post by: wilcoxon on Thursday 11 January 24 18:31 GMT (UK)
1901 Scotland Census
71 High Street Dumbarton
All born Ireland.
Image not available on Ancestry so can't check details

Charles Mccarley30 Head shoemaker
Maggie Mccarley22 Daur (Daughter)
Neil Mccarley22 Son riveter
Hugh McUrley20 Son shipyard
Charles McCurley4 Son
James McCurley12 Son
Title: Re: Where is James
Post by: heywood on Thursday 11 January 24 18:40 GMT (UK)
Scotlands People has a Catholic baptism:

Charles - 1886 parents Charles McCurley and Sarah O’Kane. Dumbarton, St Patrick’s.

The age wouldn’t fit though.
Title: Re: Where is James
Post by: heywood on Thursday 11 January 24 18:48 GMT (UK)
Hugh b 1880 - parents Charles McCurley and Sarah O’Kane
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1880/02854/2045797.pdf
Charles is a Shoemaker
Title: Re: Where is James
Post by: wilcoxon on Thursday 11 January 24 19:06 GMT (UK)
Scotlands People has a Catholic baptism:

Charles - 1886 parents Charles McCurley and Sarah O’Kane. Dumbarton, St Patrick’s.

The age wouldn’t fit though.

It could be the one in 1901, don't children get listed by age.
Could have been mistranscribed.
 I can't find an original to check.
Title: Re: Where is James
Post by: heywood on Thursday 11 January 24 19:09 GMT (UK)
 :)
Yes, Scotlands People has him transcribed as 14 yrs.
Title: Re: Where is James
Post by: wilcoxon on Thursday 11 January 24 19:20 GMT (UK)
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Yes, Scotlands People has him transcribed as 14 yrs.

Good, what about Charles the father, he can't be 30.
Is he a widower.
Title: Re: Where is James
Post by: heywood on Thursday 11 January 24 19:31 GMT (UK)
There are deaths - Scotlands People - Dumbarton

1889 Sarah McCurley 32 yrs mother’s name McSporran

1897 Sarah McCurley 12 yrs mother’s name O’Kane

Her birth is on irishgenealogy site.

As for James McCurley, if it is him in 1911, I can’t see any marriage/death record but you would need to look here for later records https://www.nidirect.gov.uk/articles/search-gronis-online-records
Title: Re: Where is James
Post by: heywood on Thursday 11 January 24 19:35 GMT (UK)
Birth 1889 Dumbarton
James McCurley mmn O’Kane
Title: Re: Where is James
Post by: wilcoxon on Thursday 11 January 24 19:36 GMT (UK)
Did James stay in Ireland. The age is a close match.


https://dof.belfastcity.gov.uk/burialsearch/BurialRecordDetails.aspx?RecordID=7235.3448

Title: Re: Where is James
Post by: heywood on Thursday 11 January 24 19:37 GMT (UK)
Good find.
That looks good - worth checking.
Title: Re: Where is James
Post by: wilcoxon on Thursday 11 January 24 19:51 GMT (UK)
There's a few  McCurley names there though.
I suppose trying to match the plot number could help.

I don't have time now.

https://online.belfastcity.gov.uk/find-burial-records/BurialSearch.aspx
Title: Re: Where is James
Post by: jonw65 on Thursday 11 January 24 20:26 GMT (UK)
I suppose trying to match the plot number could help.

Also in E 388
James McCurley, buried 12 Dec 1988, age 69

In E 389
Isabella McCurley, buried 16 March 1934, age 1. Address 152 Utility Street
Elizabeth McCurley buried 19 Dec 1981, age 87

Death announcements for James in the Belfast Telegraph, 1st (I think) and 2nd October 1959
Wife Elizabeth. But free text is full of gobbledygook.
Title: Re: Where is James
Post by: jonw65 on Thursday 11 January 24 20:27 GMT (UK)
Birth of James McCurley junior, 26 July 1919
Mother is Elizabeth, formerly McKinney
Address 152 Utilty Street
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1919/01242/1516364.pdf
Title: Re: Where is James
Post by: jgm on Thursday 11 January 24 21:17 GMT (UK)
Thanks for all the replies,  I have not found James in ww1 records , James uncle Hugh
Married a Scullion ? Could he have visited this family in 1911?
Title: Re: Where is James
Post by: heywood on Thursday 11 January 24 21:29 GMT (UK)
Thanks for all the replies,  I have not found James in ww1 records , James uncle Hugh
Married a Scullion ? Could he have visited this family in 1911?

Not sure re the connection based on certificates

Hugh McCurley and Mary Ann Scullion
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1896/10486/5818887.pdf

Patrick Scullion and Sarah Scullion
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1903/10244/5728283.pdf
Title: Re: Where is James
Post by: heywood on Thursday 11 January 24 21:51 GMT (UK)
Has anyone found a marriage for James to establish his father?

There is possibly another - James McCurry
Military record
James McCurry 17 yrs (abt 1892)
Birthplace, Shankhill, Belfast, Antrim
Enlistment Date   4 Sep 1909
Regiment   87th Foot (R. Irish Fusiliers)
Service Number   2473
Father William McCurry
Title: Re: Where is James
Post by: wilcoxon on Friday 12 January 24 08:13 GMT (UK)
In the 1911. Irish census
James is single.  A brick layer
b Scotland.
Title: Re: Where is James
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Friday 12 January 24 08:34 GMT (UK)

In the 1911. Irish census
James is single.  A brick layer
b Scotland.

Yes indeed!

See https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai002857797/


Title: Re: Where is James
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Friday 12 January 24 09:03 GMT (UK)

From https://www.lennonwylie.co.uk/tuvcomplete1955.htm

Utility Street at 151a Donegall Road

152. McCurley, J., french polisher


Title: Re: Where is James
Post by: heywood on Friday 12 January 24 10:05 GMT (UK)
I posted details of the census in reply #1 where, as you pointed out, James is a bricklayer.

I wondered if anyone has found a marriage for the James whose death and burial has been found so that the father’s name could be ascertained.

There may be more than one possibility for James McCurley. I posted a record for McCurry in case there were misspellings too. I think that record is not relevant though.
Title: Re: Where is James
Post by: wilcoxon on Friday 12 January 24 11:41 GMT (UK)
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=871000.0

Same subject
Title: Re: Where is James
Post by: jgm on Friday 12 January 24 13:21 GMT (UK)
Thanks for all replies.
I have tried various posts on rootschat to find James.
I cannot find James in ww1 records also I have no other information about him.
Thanks