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Title: Christopher Wren Vaile
Post by: ADR68 on Sunday 21 January 24 15:18 GMT (UK)
Hello All
I am looking for info on the above he was born in 1885 in Cheltenham, after that the trail goes cold, i dont know who is parents where and what happened to him after 1885?
Thanks
Allan Robson
Title: Re: Christopher Wren Vaile
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 21 January 24 15:34 GMT (UK)
Looks like he was illegitimate

Birth
VAILE, CHRISTOPHER  WREN     No mothers maiden surname listed- 
GRO Reference: 1885  June Quarter in CHELTENHAM  Volume 06A  Page 445
 
Title: Re: Christopher Wren Vaile
Post by: ADR68 on Sunday 21 January 24 15:37 GMT (UK)
Looks like he was illegitimate

Birth
VAILE, CHRISTOPHER  WREN     No mothers maiden surname listed- 
GRO Reference: 1885  June Quarter in CHELTENHAM  Volume 06A  Page 445

Thanks do you have his fathers name?
Title: Re: Christopher Wren Vaile
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 21 January 24 15:39 GMT (UK)
You would need to purchase the certificate to get his mothers name.  What is your connection to him
Title: Re: Christopher Wren Vaile
Post by: ADR68 on Sunday 21 January 24 15:40 GMT (UK)
You would need to purchase the certificate to get his mothers name.  What is your connection to him
i am looking on behalf of a friend
Title: Re: Christopher Wren Vaile
Post by: Jebber on Sunday 21 January 24 15:49 GMT (UK)
You can get a digital copy of the birth certificate for £2-50. One you have the mother’s name you can look for a possible marriage for her. If she kept the child he may have taken the stepfather’s.
Title: Re: Christopher Wren Vaile
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 21 January 24 15:51 GMT (UK)
There is this marriage in Cheltenham RD after his birth but no Christopher with her and her husband in 1891.   see later post Christopher W age 4
Marriage Dec qtr 1889 
Evered    Thomas       
Vaile    Emily       
Cheltenham    6a   899
Title: Re: Christopher Wren Vaile
Post by: ADR68 on Sunday 21 January 24 15:52 GMT (UK)
You can get a digital copy of the birth certificate for £2-50. One you have the mother’s name you can look for a possible marriage for her. If she kept the child he may have taken the stepfather’s.

Thanks for your help, but he is not on any census after his 1885 birth?
Title: Re: Christopher Wren Vaile
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 21 January 24 15:53 GMT (UK)
Perhaps you should tell us what you know about him
Title: Re: Christopher Wren Vaile
Post by: Jebber on Sunday 21 January 24 15:58 GMT (UK)
You can get a digital copy of the birth certificate for £2-50. One you have the mother’s name you can look for a possible marriage for her. If she kept the child he may have taken the stepfather’s.

Thanks for your help, but he is not on any census after his 1885 birth?

How do you know he is not on any census, if his mother married after his birth, he may have taken a stepfather’s name as I said. Then you would need to look for him under that name. I have come across many such examples in both my own and other people’s trees.
Title: Re: Christopher Wren Vaile
Post by: ADR68 on Sunday 21 January 24 16:02 GMT (UK)
Perhaps you should tell us what you know about him

Talk in the family is he drowned as a young boy thats all i have
Title: Re: Christopher Wren Vaile
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 21 January 24 16:18 GMT (UK)
Looks like you need that birth certificate then  :-\.    Digital downloads are available to view immediately.

Title: Re: Christopher Wren Vaile
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 21 January 24 16:20 GMT (UK)
Just noticed that the 1891 for Emily does have a Christopher W Evered age 4 born Stroud living with her, I will amend my earlier post
Title: Re: Christopher Wren Vaile
Post by: Kay99 on Sunday 21 January 24 16:21 GMT (UK)
There is this marriage in Cheltenham RD after his birth but no Christopher with her and her husband in 1891.
Marriage Dec qtr 1889 
Evered    Thomas       
Vaile    Emily       
Cheltenham    6a   899

Is this the family in 1891 with son Christopher W ?? :-\ :-\  Living in Litherland Lanc

Emily Evered   26 b  Islington
Thomas Evered   22 b Clifton Glos
Christopher W Evered   4 b Stroud Glos
Annie Evered   8/12

Added - Sorry Rosie - missed your amendment
Title: Re: Christopher Wren Vaile
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 21 January 24 16:23 GMT (UK)
That is the one I was looking at Kay.  I had previously been looking at 1901 and mistakenly put 1891.
Title: Re: Christopher Wren Vaile
Post by: osprey on Sunday 21 January 24 16:33 GMT (UK)
baptism Stroud Holy Trinity
9 Aug 1885 Christopher, son of Emily Vale, single woman, Stroud Union
Title: Re: Christopher Wren Vaile
Post by: ADR68 on Sunday 21 January 24 16:46 GMT (UK)
Many Thanks to all who helped solve this Puzzle.
Title: Re: Christopher Wren Vaile
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 21 January 24 16:51 GMT (UK)
Liverpool Weekly Courier 14th July 1900 mentions his drowning age 14, body was not recovered


Christopher Wren Evered 14 years of age of Doric Street, Seaforth drowned on Thursday evening while bathing on the shore at Seaforth
Title: Re: Christopher Wren Vaile
Post by: Capetown on Sunday 21 January 24 16:53 GMT (UK)
Gloucestershire BMD Indexes are useful as they show marriages at a Register Office



Groom Surname: EVERED
Groom Forename: Thomas

Bride Surname: VAILE
Bride Forename: Emily

District: Cheltenham
Parish: Cheltenham
Building: Register Office
Year: 1889
Register: 26
Entry: 82
Title: Re: Christopher Wren Vaile
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 21 January 24 16:55 GMT (UK)
It is also in Liverpool Daily Post 14th July 1900, son of Thomas Evered, porter living in Doric Street
Title: Re: Christopher Wren Vaile
Post by: ADR68 on Sunday 21 January 24 16:55 GMT (UK)
Gloucestershire BMD Indexes are useful as they show marriages at a Register Office



Groom Surname: EVERED
Groom Forename: Thomas

Bride Surname: VAILE
Bride Forename: Emily

District: Cheltenham
Parish: Cheltenham
Building: Register Office
Year: 1889
Register: 26
Entry: 82

Brilliant Thanks
Title: Re: Christopher Wren Vaile
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 21 January 24 17:03 GMT (UK)
I can't see any mention of the body being washed up so presumably no death certificate
Title: Re: Christopher Wren Vaile
Post by: ADR68 on Sunday 21 January 24 17:07 GMT (UK)
I can't see any mention of the body being washed up so presumably no death certificate

Yes  i think your right