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Title: Address
Post by: cookiechick on Monday 11 March 24 19:49 GMT (UK)
Hi i wonder if someone can help me please, my 2 X Great Grandfather his Wife and my Great Grandfather lived at 16 Constant Margam Neath Glamorganshire Wales in 1881 before moving to Staffordshire, i cannot find any listing on google for the address i have tried to search old addresses etc but coming up with nothing im wondering if it was transcribed wrongly on FindMyPast i have attached the census i hope its allowed

Lesley
Title: Re: Address
Post by: Cas (stallc) on Friday 15 March 24 12:47 GMT (UK)
Welcome to Rootschat  :)

This area

https://www.streetcheck.co.uk/postcode/sa131ub

Enlarge on map area Taibach

https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/Margam

Cas

Title: Re: Address
Post by: willyam on Friday 15 March 24 14:12 GMT (UK)
Lesley,

Within this link: https://wikishire.co.uk/wiki/Taibach you will find a reference to Constantinople Row in Taibach.
Title: Re: Address
Post by: hanes teulu on Friday 15 March 24 15:02 GMT (UK)
A couple of old maps of Taibach - Constant isn't marked. However, Underhill House, Dormitory Row and Groeswen Row are marked (named on '81 Census) -

https://maps.nls.uk/view/102342565#zoom=6&lat=10127&lon=6168&layers=BT
https://maps.nls.uk/view/102183441#zoom=5&lat=5561&lon=5836&layers=BT

Title: Re: Address
Post by: heddwch on Saturday 16 March 24 18:00 GMT (UK)
Two names from  1872 Margam on Genuki

Williams, J Grocer
Williams, John Stone Cutter

??  your family

Heddwch

Title: Re: Address
Post by: cookiechick on Saturday 16 March 24 19:43 GMT (UK)
Two names from  1872 Margam on Genuki

Williams, J Grocer
Williams, John Stone Cutter

??  your family

Heddwch



Hi i dont think so, my John Williams  on the 1881 census is a coalminer  :)
Title: Re: Address
Post by: selwynfroggitt on Saturday 23 March 24 19:59 GMT (UK)
There is a Constant Road in Margam opposite Taibach Community Centre but it looks like the houses were built in the 1930s and later
Title: Re: Address
Post by: cookiechick on Saturday 23 March 24 23:13 GMT (UK)
Thankyou for all your replies, i really appreciate it, ill never see the actual house they lived in, or find out which mine my grandfather worked in, but i can imagine what it was like i have a good imagination lol
Title: Re: Address
Post by: AlanBoyd on Sunday 24 March 24 07:51 GMT (UK)
Here is a side-by-side view showing Constant Row on a 6 inch OS map and a modern satellite view. The M4 goes right through where Balaclava Row was, and you can see that the line of Caradoc Street is preserved.It looks to me as if the Wales Coastal Path, which is the feature running parallel with the motorway through the trees to the east, follows the line of Constant Row. I wonder if there are any traces left?

 https://tinyurl.com/3t38j9ac (https://tinyurl.com/3t38j9ac)

Added:
Here is an overlay view of Constant Row and a satellite image, confirming that the Coastal Path does follow the line of the street.

 https://tinyurl.com/y6zafh63 (https://tinyurl.com/y6zafh63)
Title: Re: Address
Post by: AlanBoyd on Sunday 24 March 24 08:29 GMT (UK)
It seems likely that your grandfather worked at the Morfa Colliery which was situated about 2 miles to the south, in the area of the steelworks. The colliery served the Taibach Copper Works, and both were owned by the Vivian Company.

The South Wales Daily News of March 13th 1890 has an article about an inquest following  "The Morfa Disaster" in which 88 men died. This seems to have been an explosion resulting in an extensive roof fall followed by a fire. The majority of the men who died were from Taibach, and in the list published in the article I can see nine whose address is given as "Constant". One of the dead was David Brownsell, 35, Constant, married (one of the explorers). [One of the men who went in after the initial event to rescue the victims.] His body was identified by Evan Williams, Constant-row, Taibach.

Constant Row was probably built and owned by the Vivian company.

There is a list of the victims here:

http://www.welshcoalmines.co.uk/deathrolls/Morfa.htm#Morfa1890 (http://www.welshcoalmines.co.uk/deathrolls/Morfa.htm#Morfa1890)