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Title: Patrick RUBERY, Born 1845, County Galway
Post by: BAC3 on Wednesday 13 March 24 19:53 GMT (UK)
Hello,

Patrick RUBBERY was discharged from the Hampshire Regiment - 37th & 67th Foot on 21/01/1871 after 10 years and 3 days service according to an entry on FindMyPast.

Can anyone confirm, or otherwise, this may have been the above Patrick RUBERY and, if "Yes", please show details, date of enlistment etc., should that be possible.

Thank you,

BAC3
Title: Re: Patrick RUBERY, Born 1845, County Galway
Post by: *Sandra* on Wednesday 13 March 24 20:04 GMT (UK)
Not quite what your asking -  Have you seen the 1861 census Canterbury. Kent.

Patrick Rubbery - 1842 Galway. Ireland (aged 19 years)

Civil parish   Canterbury St Mary Northgate
Kent
ED, institution, or vessel   Permanent Infantry.

marriage 1871

Patrick Rubery - Registration Year   1871 Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district   Manchester   Lancashire
Volume   8d Page   723
spouse Ann Hines.

Lived with parents in Manchester 1871 -

Canadian passenger list - 2 July 1872 on the Nestorian with Anna.  Plus a Martin Rubery aged 53 years and a Catherine aged 40 years.

Married and Family are in Canada by 1881 Kington Ontario.

Sandra
Title: Re: Patrick RUBERY, Born 1845, County Galway
Post by: Ashtone on Wednesday 13 March 24 20:06 GMT (UK)
Also, the 1906 obit which Sandra uploaded earlier states that Patrick (born 1845) had been living in Kingston, Ontario "for 40 years". So Patrick can't be the army fellow discharged in 1871, unless the obit mention of lengthy residence was off by a few years.

Also, if you already have the FindMyPast military record doesn't that confirm when he enlisted, etc?
Wouldn't his enlistment be mid-January 1861?
Title: Re: Patrick RUBERY, Born 1845, County Galway
Post by: *Sandra* on Wednesday 13 March 24 20:15 GMT (UK)

The obit would only be as good as the informants knowledge.  At that time it was not unusual but quite common for dates, births, marriage, aged etc to be reported wrongly.   :-\

quote :- Patrick RUBBERY was discharged from the Hampshire Regiment - 37th & 67th Foot on 21/01/1871 after 10 years and 3 days service according to an entry on FindMyPast.

Is that just a summary of  FOLD 3  ?  You need other information from it ?

Might have a friend who can look for you.

Title: Re: Patrick RUBERY, Born 1845, County Galway
Post by: Ashtone on Wednesday 13 March 24 20:17 GMT (UK)
If it's the same Patrick does BAC3 know when PR was released from Parkhurst Prison? Was it prior to January 1861?
Title: Re: Patrick RUBERY, Born 1845, County Galway
Post by: *Sandra* on Wednesday 13 March 24 20:26 GMT (UK)
Prison Commission Records, 1770-1951


Patrick Rubery - 1844 Galway Ireland (criminal admission age aged 15 years) Last place of abode Manchester. Roman Catholic.
Occupation   Baker
Criminal Charge   Felony - Criminal Admission Date  (stealing a handkf value 2/6d)  9 May 1859 - conviction date 16 May 1859  - reception 25 June 1859 - date and mode of disposal 15 November 1860.
Criminal Admission Place    Jail   Parkhurst Prison - 18 months.
Father    Patrick Rubery. 17 Piling Street. Rochdale Road. Manchester.

Sandra
Title: Re: Patrick RUBERY, Born 1845, County Galway
Post by: Ashtone on Wednesday 13 March 24 20:53 GMT (UK)
His FindMyPast record is from the Chelsea: Pensioners' Discharge Documents 1760-1887.
Title: Re: Patrick RUBERY, Born 1845, County Galway
Post by: *Sandra* on Wednesday 13 March 24 20:56 GMT (UK)

Similar heading to ancestry (held by FOLD 3)   UK, Royal Hospital Chelsea Pensioner Admissions and Discharges, 1715-1925 - just in case Lance does not return for a while, have asked a friend to take a look for us.
Title: Re: Patrick RUBERY, Born 1845, County Galway
Post by: ShaunJ on Wednesday 13 March 24 21:01 GMT (UK)
Quote
Patrick RUBBERY was discharged from the Hampshire Regiment - 37th & 67th Foot on 21/01/1871 after 10 years and 3 days service according to an entry on FindMyPast.

The only surviving record appears to be that entry in the Discharge register. He was in 37th Foot.

There's an 1861 army "index" record of a Pat Rubbery in 70th Foot at Canterbury. This is probably the man in the 1861 census that Sandra posted.
Title: Re: Patrick RUBERY, Born 1845, County Galway
Post by: *Sandra* on Wednesday 13 March 24 21:05 GMT (UK)

Thanks Shaun, that clears that up.  :-\  Sounds like the same guy.

quote : There's an 1861 army "index" record of a Pat Rubbery in 70th Foot at Canterbury. This is probably the man in the 1861 census that Sandra posted.

Title: Re: Patrick RUBERY, Born 1845, County Galway
Post by: BAC3 on Wednesday 13 March 24 21:06 GMT (UK)
Good Evening,

Possibly if I could "top and tail" the potential army career, I should say he was released from Parkhurst Prison on 15/11/1860 and was married in July 1871.   This would allow adequately for the 10 years and 3 days military service.

It is a pity the FindMyPast entry did not contain any personal details :'( :'(

BAC3
Title: Re: Patrick RUBERY, Born 1845, County Galway
Post by: *Sandra* on Wednesday 13 March 24 21:08 GMT (UK)
Again not what you wanted but interesting to read regarding Ann Hynes/Hines who Patrick married in 1871

Manchester Evening News
Manchester, Greater Manchester
Tue, 13 Jun 1871
Page 3

https://www.newspapers.com/article/manchester-evening-news/143302678/

 :'( :'(

Manchester Evening News
Manchester, Greater Manchester.
Fri, 16 Jun 1871
Page 3

https://www.newspapers.com/article/manchester-evening-news/143302778/

Manchester Weekly Times and Examiner
Manchester, Greater Manchester
Sat, 17 Jun 1871
Page 5

https://www.newspapers.com/article/manchester-weekly-times-and-examiner/143302886/
Title: Re: Patrick RUBERY, Born 1845, County Galway
Post by: BAC3 on Wednesday 13 March 24 21:11 GMT (UK)

Good Evening again,

I think my last post can be ignored as my original query appears successfully answered......I am grateful for all your excellent research and now to complete the Canadian episode of Patrick RUBERY's life...........and thereby hangs a tale ;D ;D

BAC3