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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Warwickshire => England => Warwickshire Lookup Requests => Topic started by: Vixen999 on Saturday 23 March 24 20:23 GMT (UK)
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Hi I came across a census for the below person at Winson Green, Birmingham prison. I can’t find out why Edith Abrahams was convicted as it doesn’t state why. What resources could I use to try and find out why she was imprisoned? Could anyone take a look to see if you can locate a record about this? Thanks
Name Edith Abrahams
Age in 1911 25
Estimated Birth Year abt 1886
Relation to Head Prisoner
Gender Female
Birth Place Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
Civil parish Birmingham
County/Island Warwickshire
Country England
Marital Status Single
Occupation Formerley Wrapping Up (Jewelry)
Registration District Number 384
Sub-registration district All Saints
ED, institution, or vessel 28-32
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She is in the City Asylum not in prison.
Tab back to the first page. (13 if you are looking at it on ancestry)
1929 Dolly Abrahams and Edith Abrahams are on Spencer Street, Birmingham
CORRECTED
I went back too far, the asylum is page 13
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1911 her brothers Ernest 1895 age 15 and Albert 1898 age 13 are in the Industrial School for Jewish Boys in Middlesex.
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Are there two Ediths?
You have 1884 in your title but the one you quote is b 1886.
She is in the City Asylum not in prison.
Tab back to the first page. (13 if you are looking at it on ancestry)
1929 Dolly Abrahams and Edith Abrahams are on Spencer Street, Birmingham
The one I am looking at is described as a Prisoner in H M Prison, Winson Green Road, Birmingham
Added
See pg 44, amondg.
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She is in the City Asylum not in prison
It's Winson Green Prison. See Ancestry image 44:
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/2352/images/rg14_18060_0091_31
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Thank you. I just added to my post, Shaun, when I saw yours.
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Hi
I've had a look at Birmingham Prisoner Calender up to 1922 on Ancestry and no luck and no mention of her in the Newspaper archive. Nothing in the Prisoner archives for Warwickshire either.
I tried the Roll of Suffragettes prisoners just in case ,but it's not comprehensive.
Sorry don't know what else to suggest
Ciderdrinker
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I tried the Roll of Suffragettes prisoners just in case ,but it's not comprehensive.
If it helps, here is a list of suffragette names at HMS Winson Green in 1909:
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C4746647
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Are there two Ediths?
You have 1884 in your title but the one you quote is b 1886.
She is in the City Asylum not in prison.
Tab back to the first page. (13 if you are looking at it on ancestry)
1929 Dolly Abrahams and Edith Abrahams are on Spencer Street, Birmingham
The one I am looking at is described as a Prisoner in H M Prison, Winson Green Road, Birmingham
Added
See pg 44, amondg.
Edith was born 1884
ABRAHAMS, EDITH TONGUE
GRO Reference: 1884 J Quarter in BIRMINGHAM Volume 06D Page 233
I think without looking that she was 25 in the census so not sure if same person. However I looked on the gro and couldn’t see another Edith Abrahams from Birmingham
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1911 her brothers Ernest 1895 age 15 and Albert 1898 age 13 are in the Industrial School for Jewish Boys in Middlesex.
Yes that’s correct thanks
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She is in the City Asylum not in prison.
Tab back to the first page. (13 if you are looking at it on ancestry)
1929 Dolly Abrahams and Edith Abrahams are on Spencer Street, Birmingham
CORRECTED
I went back too far, the asylum is page 13
Could you post a link for 1929 please showing dolly and Edith as I thought dolly died before then. Thanks
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Hi
I've had a look at Birmingham Prisoner Calender up to 1922 on Ancestry and no luck and no mention of her in the Newspaper archive. Nothing in the Prisoner archives for Warwickshire either.
I tried the Roll of Suffragettes prisoners just in case ,but it's not comprehensive.
Sorry don't know what else to suggest
Ciderdrinker
Thanks for looking. She’s elusive!
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Hi
I've had a look at Birmingham Prisoner Calender up to 1922 on Ancestry and no luck and no mention of her in the Newspaper archive. Nothing in the Prisoner archives for Warwickshire either.
I tried the Roll of Suffragettes prisoners just in case ,but it's not comprehensive.
Sorry don't know what else to suggest
Ciderdrinker
Thanks for taking a look for me
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She is in the City Asylum not in prison.
Tab back to the first page. (13 if you are looking at it on ancestry)
1929 Dolly Abrahams and Edith Abrahams are on Spencer Street, Birmingham
CORRECTED
I went back too far, the asylum is page 13
Could you post a pic or link of where you found Dolly and Edith in 1929 please?