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General => Armed Forces => World War One => Topic started by: charliewatson on Monday 25 March 24 15:17 GMT (UK)
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I am searching for the grave of Lieutenant Leonard Arthur Herbert RAF, died 14/7/1919 in an air crash.
Dose anybody have any information?
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That also says Brookwood Woking Surrey
Plot - panel 3
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His death was registered Hartley Wintney reg district, it may give more information
HERBERT, LEONARD ARTHUR age 28
GRO Reference: 1919 Sept Quarter in HARTLEY WINTNEY Volume 02C Page 184
Where did he come from
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Probate gives his address as 10 Sheen Road, Richmond - he died at Farnborough, Hampshire
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https://www.noonans.co.uk/auctions/archive/special-collections/755/302472/
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You do need to give more details, other than a death date.
These newspaper article may be of interest if you haven't come across it
Leicester Evening Mail
Leicester, Leicestershire, England
Tue, 15 Jul 1919
Page 1
https://www.newspapers.com/article/leicester-evening-mail/144096975/
Hull Daily Mail
Hull, Humberside, England
Tue, 15 Jul 1919
Page 6
https://www.newspapers.com/article/hull-daily-mail/144097139/
Aldershot News
Aldershot, Hampshire, England
Fri, 18 Jul 1919
Page 3
https://www.newspapers.com/article/aldershot-news/144097362/
https://www.newspapers.com/article/aldershot-news/144097473/
FIND A GRAVE
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/145090868/leonard-arthur-herbert
Sandra
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He does not appear on the index for Richmond cemeteries
https://www2.richmond.gov.uk/lbrburials/(S(ftfmm3d3g2wl1crhpj2xvgb3))/Search.aspx
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Sad :'( Brother Roy Lester Herbert (aged 48 years) - died 11 December 1940 - also mentioned on the Brookwood Memorial.
Husband of Doris Herbert (nee Bathurst), of Cheltenham, Gloucestershire.
Married Edmonton Dec1924 to Doris Bathurst.
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/56076300/roy-leslie-herbert
Mothers death was registered Croydon District 1948
Jessie E Herbert 1866 - 1948 (aged 82 years)
Registration Quarter Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district Croydon Surrey
Volume 5g Page 42
Father's death registered Croydon 1932 (March)
Herbert Arthur S 77 Croydon 2a 581
Sandra
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You may need to look at the 1921 census & find out
where his father was living.
As his NOK he would have had the responsibility of arranging
his burial.
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Probate gives his address as 10 Sheen Road, Richmond - he died at Farnborough, Hampshire
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https://www.noonans.co.uk/auctions/archive/special-collections/755/302472/
So sad, a day after his arrival at his new unit, recorded as being killed in an aircraft accident during experimental flying for the Director of Research. His aircraft collided with another in mid air.
Probate was to his father Arthur Samuel Herbert - 11 September 1919
There was an Edmonton marriage of a Leonard A Herbert to Eva Hawkes - December 1918 -
This gentleman was Leonard Allen Herbert so one to discount. :-\
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The father's entry on the 1921 Census has been mis-transcribed as Annie Herbert, the original reads Arthur Herbert. The address is 10, Sheen Road, Richmond, Surrey, England (same as Probate in 1919).
Previous post from rosie99:
He does not appear on the index for Richmond cemeteries
https://www2.richmond.gov.uk/lbrburials/(S(ftfmm3d3g2wl1crhpj2xvgb3))/Search.aspx
Tony
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His name was unveiled on his school memorial in January 1921:
COUNTY SCHOOL FOR BOYS. WAR MEMORIAL UNVEILED. ADDRESS BY VISCOUNT CAVE
... Marshall. Walter James Cook. James Gordon Law. Eric Skelton, Robert Thomas. Kenneth Leslie Baxter, Charles Wilfred Moore, Max Gumpert, Leonard Arthur Herbert, Frederick Clifton Dawkins. Above the names are the words. In piam memoriam hujus scholfe alumnorum ...
Published: Saturday 29 January 1921
Newspaper: Richmond Herald
County: London, England
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Have you tried contacting Rushmoor Council Cemeteries department in case he was buried Aldershot / Farnborough.
I am not sure where records for Aldershot Military Cemetery are, could he be there.
Where are the other two people who were with him buried
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The nearest Church to Sheen Rd. is Holy Trinity but has no graveyard.
The Parish Church is St. Mary Magdalene but not sure if they were
taking interments in 1919.
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HENRY ARTHUR RICHARD BIZIOU the other RAF victim is buried in Aldershot Military Cemetery.
According to some of the newspaper reports, he had local family connections.
See CWGC website
Tony
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Thanks to you all for your continuing interest.
He's not in:
Any Richmond churchyard
Any local or nearby cemetery to the crash operated by Rushmoor Council inc. Aldershot and Farnborough
Aldershot military cemetery
His father was cremated at Croydon but he wasn't
Cemeteries near his place of birth
The mystery continues....
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Woking crematorium is not that far away. :-\
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Although his father was cremated at Croydon was he actually buried there or somewhere else?
Is there a family plot at an unknown location?
Was Leonard also cremated & his ashes scattered?
As all of the logical places have been searched any of the above are possible so may
be the end of the trail unless someone has a moment of inspiration.
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Father's ashes scattered at Croydon Crematorium.
Seems to be no other historical family plot or connection elsewhere.
Will try Woking.
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I've finally found him! Cremated at Woking Crematorium.
Thanks again to all of you who took the interest and especially to Rosie 99 for suggesting Woking Cremation.
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I've finally found him! Cremated at Woking Crematorium.
Thanks again to all of you who took the interest and especially to Rosie 99 for suggesting Woking Cremation.
Very good news, lovely pointer from Rosie99. Nice to knock another of the list.
Regards
Sandra
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Good bit of sleuthing by Rosie99.
Got any more?
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I was brought up in Woking, what more can I say ;D
I am really pleased to hear that you have located him.
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Jim1 asks 'Got any more?'
I volunteer for a project called In From The Cold and we work to the Commonwealth War Graves Commission to try and locate the as yet unknown graves of service personnel who died in the UK.
I focus on WW1 and its aftermath.
So, yes, loads more!
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So, yes, loads more!
Keep them flowing. :) We love to help especially when it is for a good cause.