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Title: Is he my 2x Grt Grandfather
Post by: Nessie56 on Thursday 18 April 24 16:06 BST (UK)
Hi
I am not sure I have asked about this topic in the past. It will be awhile ago so I have lost track. I apologize if I have.

My Grt Grandfather George Norman was born in west Bengal India in 1880. (there may be 3 children in total born in India) George's occupation was a deckhand in the Navy, he died in Ireland falling from a train in 1915.

Birth details
Name   George Norman
Gender   Male
Birth Date   29 Nov 1880
Baptism Date   15 Dec 1880
Baptism Age   0
Baptism Place   Bengal, India
Father   George Norman
Mother   Bridget


I found George along with his father on the 1911 Irish census.

On the census the Father was a widow (wife Bridget Mullin) aged 65, born Gravesend England, retired from the 39 Dord Regiment.

I found a George Norman on the 1871 Census based at the Royal Marine Barracks Gillingham, Kent.

I am trying to see if I can find a link.

Would either Royal Marines or the 39 Dord Regiment have been in India around 1880.

Thanks.



Title: Re: Is he my 2x Grt Grandfather
Post by: scotmum on Thursday 18 April 24 16:23 BST (UK)
Just a  point that may help others when attempting to help you. Although I haven't quite made out what is written yet, I do think the transcription 'Dord' is likely incorrect:

Title: Re: Is he my 2x Grt Grandfather
Post by: QueenoftheWest on Thursday 18 April 24 16:24 BST (UK)
George Sr.'s military record is on FindMyPast:
https://www.findmypast.co.uk/transcript?id=GBM%2FWO97%2F3565%2F142035

Queenie  :)
Title: Re: Is he my 2x Grt Grandfather
Post by: QueenoftheWest on Thursday 18 April 24 16:28 BST (UK)
I can see from his record that he was a Private in the 54th Foot, which matches George Jr.'s baptism record in Bengal in 1880.

He was also in the Dorset regiment, I think. It almost looks like 'Leorset' on the record.

The 39th regiment is also mentioned on the record, which matches up with the census.

Queenie  :)

EDIT: In India from 1871 to 1884.
Title: Re: Is he my 2x Grt Grandfather
Post by: QueenoftheWest on Thursday 18 April 24 16:30 BST (UK)
Record states he married Bridget Mullins on 12th September 1870 in Galway.

EDIT: He did indeed. If you don't have it, here is his marriage certificate:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1870/11395/8184210.pdf

Only difference on the military record is that he states he was born in All Saints, near Sudbury, Suffolk.

Queenie  :)
Title: Re: Is he my 2x Grt Grandfather
Post by: QueenoftheWest on Thursday 18 April 24 16:37 BST (UK)
The George at the Royal Marine Barracks in Gillingham in 1871 is listed as unmarried, but George married Bridget in 1870.

Queenie  :)

EDIT: Can see no mention of Royal Marines on military record.
Title: Re: Is he my 2x Grt Grandfather
Post by: Nessie56 on Thursday 18 April 24 16:53 BST (UK)
Thank you Scotmum
I did search for the 39 Dord regiment and it took me to the Dorset Regiment, but i wasn't sure.

Thank you Queenie

You have been a great help. I can now rule out the George in the Royal Marines now.
 
Thank you so much for the certificate I am so excited now.

I need to pack up and eat (no chance now)

Thank you both again.




Title: Re: Is he my 2x Grt Grandfather
Post by: QueenoftheWest on Thursday 18 April 24 16:58 BST (UK)
Glad I could help; enjoy researching George's family further!

Queenie  :)
Title: Re: Is he my 2x Grt Grandfather
Post by: Andy J2022 on Thursday 18 April 24 22:14 BST (UK)
The 39th Regiment of Foot became the Dorsetshire Regiment in 1881 when it amalgamated with the 54th (West Norfolk) Regiment of Foot  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/39th_(Dorsetshire)_Regiment_of_Foot