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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Dunbartonshire => Topic started by: up2you2 on Thursday 25 April 24 09:45 BST (UK)
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I would be most grateful, if someone could throw some light and hopefully details on this Clydeside family.
I am sorry but what I have to date is a bit sketchy, but hopefully there might be those who has access to past obituaries, that could start to fill in some of the blanks of this family please:
James Scott 1820-1889
A partnership was formed in 1892 between James Scott and his two sons, Charles Wood Scott 1858-1931 and James Scott Junior 1860-1950 , the firms name was changed again to Scott and Sons.
James Wood Scott 1894-1915/7
James Scott Junior 1860-1950 son Charles and his nephew James carried on the partnership after James Scott died in 1950.
Charles Scott and his brother William Scott became directors when James Scott retired in 1958.
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I'm not entirely clear what information you are after. There is this death notice from 1903:
"BOWLING SHIPBUILDER DEAD - Mr James Scott, the head of the well known firm of ship builders at Bowling, died yesterday in his 73rd year."
Wednesday, Oct. 14, 1903
Publication: Edinburgh Evening News
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So I'm assuming this is his death on Scotlands People:
James SCOTT aged 72, mother's maiden name WATSON 1903 (501 / 282) Old or West Kilpatrick
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There are a few James SCOTT born 1830-1832 with mmn WATSON, but this one looks likely:
James SCOTT baptised 3 Jan 1831 (501 40 / 133) parents James SCOTT and Agnes WATSON at Old or West Kilpatrick.
James SCOTT married Agnes WATSON 7 Sept 1811 at Old or West Kilpatrick (501 30 / 165).
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I'm not entirely clear what information you are after. There is this death notice from 1903:
"BOWLING SHIPBUILDER DEAD - Mr James Scott, the head of the well known firm of ship builders at Bowling, died yesterday in his 73rd year."
Wednesday, Oct. 14, 1903
Publication: Edinburgh Evening News
Really any death details, obituaries, of this Scott family since this date please.
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So you're looking for the sons Charles and James?
Charles Wood SCOTT probate:
Died 23 Oct 1931 at Bowling.
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So you're looking for the sons Charles and James?
Charles Wood SCOTT probate:
Died 23 Oct 1931 at Bowling.
Yes please, any related Scotts since 1900 please.
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An engagement of Charles' son in 1931:
Friday, Oct. 16, 1931
Publication: Dundee Courier
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James Wood SCOTT died 28 June 1915 at Gallipoli.
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findagrave for James SCOTT's wife Charlotte, died 1917 :
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/173641335/charlotte-scott
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Just in passing, and despite what Ancestry and similar web sites would have you believe, there is no such thing as probate in Scotland, so you will struggle to find any actual documents if you search for probate. The legal process in Scotland is Confirmation.
If someone domiciled in Scotland owning property in England, Wales or Ireland, the Scottish Confirmation is Sealed in the courts there.
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Thanks Forfarian, I had forgotten that it's not Probate in Scotland.
up2you2, without knowing exactly what information you already have:
Charles Wood SCOTT married Elizabeth GEORGE in 1886 in Old Kilpatrick. They had the following children according to a search on Scotlands People (all registered at Old Kilpatrick):
1887 James Watson SCOTT (died 1963, aged 75)
1889 William George SCOTT (died 1905, aged 15)
1892 Janet Clark SCOTT (died 1973 - the age looks right, aged 80)
1896 Charles Wood SCOTT (died 1960 aged 64)
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Thank you to all who have helped me get this far - much appreciated.
These are the details I have compiled to date, it would be nice to complete this list:
James Scott in 1811 married Agnes Watson
Children:
James Scott 1830/1-1903
"BOWLING SHIPBUILDER DEAD - Mr James Scott, the head of the well known firm of ship builders at Bowling, died yesterday in his 73rd year." Wednesday, Oct. 14, 1903 married in 1853 Charlotte Wood 1826-1917
Children:
Agnes Watson Scott 1854-1855
Janet Wood Scott 1856-1892
James Scott Jr. 1860-1950 married
Charles Wood Scott 1858-1931 married Elizabeth George
Children:
Janet Clarke Scott 1892- married Mr MacGregor
James Watson Scott 1887-1963 married 1934 Mary Ritchie Kelly 1907-1999
William George Scott 1889-1905
Charlotte Isobel Scott 1894-1973
James Wood Scott 1894/6-1915
Charles Wood Scott 1896-1960 married Beryl Ethne Yarrow 1910/1/20-2008, remarried Graeme Hardie in 1969, he died 1973
Children:
Grahame Charles Wood Scott 1932-1981
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There is also a death of an infant Agnes Watson SCOTT (mmn WOOD) in 1855 at Old Kilptrick, a transcription on Ancestry has her birth 28 May 1854, parents James SCOTT and Charlotte WOOD.
Modified to add:
It looks like Janet Wood SCOTT died 1892 aged 36, registered at Old Kilpatrick.
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There is also a death of an infant Agnes Watson SCOTT (mmn WOOD) in 1855 at Old Kilptrick, a transcription on Ancestry has her birth 28 May 1854, parents James SCOTT and Charlotte WOOD.
The original document is, naturally, available to view at www.scotlandspeople.go.uk, and may contain information not in any of the online transcriptions.
See screenshot.
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Does anyone have access to Find My Past, two articles are of interest please.
The first 10th September 1993 in the Lennox Herald Shipbuilding in Bowling by Keith Stone.
The second 1st October 1993 again in the Lennox Herald Bowling shipbuilding history updated.
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Another obituary, a few more details.
14 October 1903: The Scotsman
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Does anyone have access to Find My Past, two articles are of interest please.
The first 10th September 1993 in the Lennox Herald Shipbuilding in Bowling by Keith Stone.
The second 1st October 1993 again in the Lennox Herald Bowling shipbuilding history updated.
The articles are too long to post. PM sent.
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Some updates that hopefully might be taken further please, with obituaries:
James Scott 1780-1845 married in 1811 Agnes Watson 1788- 16 Jul 1874
James Scott Jr. 1860-1950 married in 1882 Marion Strang 1861-1946, second wife Jenny?
Charles Wood Scott 1858-1931 married Elizabeth George ? -1926
Charlotte Isobel Scott 1894-1963/73
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Marriage of Charles Scott and Elizabeth George, July 1886. The groom's father's address is 'The Orchard' (it was Orchard House at his death in 1903). The bride's address is Dunerbuck (also spelled Dunarbuck elsewhere). This house is associated with the Scott family in several newspaper items in the 20th century, so I assume it became the family residence.
17 July 1886: North British Daily Mail
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Dunerbuck on the 1862 25 inch OS map:
https://maps.nls.uk/view/220341611#zoom=5&lat=7903&lon=6073&layers=BT (https://maps.nls.uk/view/220341611#zoom=5&lat=7903&lon=6073&layers=BT)
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Great stuff Alan, we always pronounced it Dunarbuck living next door as neighbours.
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Two more new Scott sons that I cannot account for please:
James Scott Jr. 1860-1950 married in 1892 Marion Strang 1861-1946
Children:
Walter S Scott died in or after 1961
Charles M Scott died in or after 1967
William S Scott died in or after 1961
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October 1931: an engagement and a funeral
Scott–Yarrow engagement, 16 October 1931: Milngavie and Bearsden Herald
Funeral of Clyde Shipbuilder, 27 October 1931: The Scotsman
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I have made some considerable progress in following up this line of this Scott family, having said that I through others have failed in seeking the following obituaries please.
Any help would be greatly appreciated, comments BNA - British Newspaper Archive, SP Scotland’s People:
James Scott was born 28/5/1860 and died 15/12/1950
BNA: no death notice found
married Marion (nee Strang) 1861-1946
William Strang Scott born 2/11/1895 and died 3/12/1983
BNA: no death with William Strang Scott, William S Scott and William Scott
Janet Clarke Scott 1892 and died 18/2/1973 married Alexander MacGregor on 20/9/1917 in Bowling
BNA: not found
SP: died Old Kilpatrick 1973
Charles Maclay Scott 1901- Death 13 Sep 1973 3 Camstradden Drive East, Bearsden, Glasgow
Jean Isabel Mary (nee Manners) Scott 1938-2008
BNA not found
SP: Jean ISABEL Mary, 70, mmn Inglis, died BALFRON (Glasgow or Stirling?)
Alistair Spence Meighan was born 19/8/1927 and died 1/4/2002
BNA: not found
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I think the coverage of more recent dates (late 20th century onwards) in the BNA is sparse.
There used to be a free online digitised archive of the Glasgow Herald but not sure how recent it was, and I haven't found it just now.
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Charles Maclay Scott 1901- Death 13 Sep 1973 3 Camstradden Drive East, Bearsden, Glasgow
I can see a death notice for his son, Charles Dudley Galloway SCOTT of the same address:
Monday, Sept. 16, 1974
Publication: The Daily Telegraph
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"SCOTT. - At Ornum, Bearsden, on 13th September, 1973, Charles Maclay Scott, dearly beloved husband of Maimie Galloway. Funeral private."
Saturday, Sept. 15, 1973
Publication: The Times
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"SCOTT. - At Ornum, Bearsden, on 13th September, 1973, Charles Maclay Scott, dearly beloved husband of Maimie Galloway. Funeral private."
Saturday, Sept. 15, 1973
Publication: The Times
Thank you.
Hopefully there might be more detailed local obituaries published for these dates?
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Two more new Scott sons that I cannot account for please:
James Scott Jr. 1860-1950 married in 1892 Marion Strang 1861-1946
Children:
Walter S Scott died in or after 1961
Charles M Scott died in or after 1967
William S Scott died in or after 1961
From https://theleys-digitalheritage.net/Filename.ashx?systemFileName=TLEYFM1963_087_1400.pdf&origFilename=TLEYFM1963_087_1400.pdf
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Re William Strang Strong, there is an entry in a google book, shortened link here www.rootschat.com/links/01t63/