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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Gloucestershire => Topic started by: harveyh on Tuesday 20 September 05 20:52 BST (UK)
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Hi do you know where this farm is/was the next listing on the 181 is Shellands Lane, is that still there? Does anyone have any photos or information circa 1881 would love to share . My Great Great Uncle lived here and farmed 30 acres.
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By Googling...
Shellands Lane is in Alveston, next village to Thornbury and seems to be at right angles to the A38 Gloucester to Bristol road, near the Alveston House Hotel. The reference I found is to Jekka McVicar's Herb Farm and that is how I have derived the location. Maybe it would be worth phoning there and asking if anyone knows of the farm? It might even be the same property?
http://www.jekkasherbfarm.com/
I am often in the area if I can help...
kind regards, Arranroots ;)
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Is your rellie Austin PEARCE?
The butcher in Thornbury is still PEARCEs - or it was last time I looked! There are still PEARCEs farming at Oldbury and Morton, both near Thornbury.
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hi there
Yes my rellie is Austin Pearce my Great Great Grand Father and Austin were brothers, Austin and my G G GF 's father was a Samuel Pearce and he too was a farmer originally then it seems he moved to the Jolly Black Horse and Beaufort Arms both in Mangotsfield? so hence my previous posting about the Jolly Black Horse.
I am going to write to the Butchers to see if they are related!to me, thank you for replying
Harveyh
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Owlsnest farm is shown on the 1/25000 OS map on http://www.multimap.com/
Use the Advanced search and look for Shellards Lane, Alveston
Alternatively use http://www.old-maps.co.uk/
Type the address Shellards lane, Alveston click the dot button against address and then click Search
There is a magnifier function on Old Maps and also a print Map function.
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I have just checked the location of the herb farm mentioned above, Owls Nest is on the Alveston side of the M5 and the Herb farm is just the otherside of the M5.
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Hi Harveyh
I have a photo of the farm. PM me your email address if you want a copy.
Nashua
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Hi
What a great thread.
My ancestors, the Champions, lived in Shellards Lane, and are listed underneath Owls Nest Farm in 1881.
I wondered if anybody had any info at all on them.
Best wishes
Carrie
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I am interested in The Champion Family of Shellards Lane. George Champion born 1815 I think his mother was Elizabeth Champion born 1771. Did they live at Owl Barn Farm?
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I am interested in The Champion Family of Shellards Lane. George Champion born 1815 I think his mother was Elizabeth Champion born 1771. Did they live at Owl Barn Farm?
Hi there
I am descended from George Champion's brother, James (born c. 1799)
I do not really have much information on this part of the family.
I found out that they lived in Shellards Lane from the census returns, although as far as I remember, a house number was not given. The entry was just underneath Owl's Nest Farm, in 1881.
Best wishes
Carrie
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have you seen this on Thornbury Roots?
Emily Winifred Champion. Emily was born on 28th April 1884 at her parents' home, Owl's Nest Farm in Alveston. She was the daughter of William James Champion and his wife Elizabeth (nee Saniger). In 1901 she was a servant for Elizabeth Williams in Weston Super Mare.
http://stjohnstreet.thornburyroots.co.uk/oliverhiggins.htm
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Do you know the name of his father, who married Elizabeth. She was living with her daughter Ann in 1851 and is blind.
I am doing the tree for a daughter of Mary Grace Champion born Brighton 1928. She married a Arthur Oldfield and had 6 children. You are gt. cousins. Any info will help.
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Do you know the name of his father, who married Elizabeth. She was living with her daughter Ann in 1851 and is blind.
I am doing the tree for a daughter of Mary Grace Champion born Brighton 1928. She married a Arthur Oldfield and had 6 children. You are gt. cousins. Any info will help.
Hi,
His father was James Champion, born circa 1780 in Berkley Gloucestershire
Hope this helps. My full tree is on Genes Reunited if that helps
Best wishes
Carrie
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See the Section on The Champions.
http://stjohnstreet.thornburyroots.co.uk/no15PG%20occupants.htm#The Champions
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See the Section on The Champions.
http://stjohnstreet.thornburyroots.co.uk/no15PG%20occupants.htm#The Champions
That site is really interesting, I had a look earlier, and found some family photos. Thank you
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Thanks for that. im not in Genes Reunited?
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Thanks for that. im not in Genes Reunited?
Ok, well that's the only place I have my full tree I am afraid. It's free to join up.
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I too have heard of Owls Nest Farm. My granny was Ella Wyndham Champion (19.4-1991). I think my mum has a photo of Owls Nest Farm.
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I too have heard of Owls Nest Farm. My granny was Ella Wyndham Champion (19.4-1991). I think my mum has a photo of Owls Nest Farm.
Hi, do you have the photo at all?
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Hi Carrie
I have spoken to my mum and her photo is an aerial photo of Owls Nest Farm and she thinks it is modern - maybe 1960's. I can get it and try to scan and upload for you in the next month. My mum's grandparents were Charles George Champion (1880-1962) and Ella Wyndham Flower (1880-1960).
Charles George Champion - Father - Henry G Champion (1854-1924)
-Mother - Mary Ann Griffin (1857-1940)
I have an incomplete family tree on Genes Reunited but will be re-starting the family tree on Ancestry in the next couple of months. I was going to simplify it to just include immediate family and not brother and sisters as it just gets too big but will see how I get on.
Mum said there are a lot of Champion headstones in the Alveston Church Yard.
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Fantastic info.
Thank you so much.
Is there a way we can send messages so we can access eachother's trees?
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Will be visiting Alveston later this month and interested in getting the address for the Owls Nest. My father, Charles Frances Champion, his siblings and parents lived there. Looks like the family moved there in 1909 census records show Ella Flowers Champion father died in Binegar, Somerset in 1909 and Albert (3rd son) was born in Alveston. I too have an aerial photo of the house.
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If you search on
Lloyd George Survey of Land Values Gloucestershire 1909
https://www.glos1909survey.org.uk
GA/D2428/1/4 - Hereditament Number 48
Place: Alveston
Income tax parish: Alveston
Occupied by: CHAMPION, Henry & Son (M)
People holding property: BUSH, Henry Graham, The Grove, Alveston (M) (OWNER)
Property: Description: House & Buidlings, Address: Owls Nest, Earthcott
Poor rate: Number 61, Gross Value £6, Rateable Value: £5.10s
Description: Land, Address: Owls Nest, Earthcott
Poor Rate: Number 61 - Gross Value £6 - Rateable Value £5.10s
Poor Rate: Number 62 - Size 55 acres - Gross Value £67 15s - Rateable Value £62
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If you search for BUSH, Alveston, he seems to own most of the Property in Alveston - especially around Stellards Lane
COMMENTS: Later address for owner: 9 Bridge Street, Bristol
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The Ancestry 1911 Summary Books are always useful (sometimes give more address info)
The Grove, Private House, BUSH
Alveston House, Farm House, CHAMBERS
Shellards Lane, Cottage, WATTS
Haywards Farm, Farm House, JONES
Owls Nest, Farm house, CHAMPION - 5 miles 2 females 7 in total
Dodsmoor, Farm House, BIDDLE
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Hi
https://www.sabre-roads.org.uk/maps/index.php?view=51.4556,-2.59633&map=NPEMap&zoom=15&layer=3&markers=51.4556,-2.59633
Googlemaps centre of the picture https://goo.gl/maps/ZKgEuPiz6iJ2
Streetview of the entrance https://goo.gl/maps/4ow8piJCqFD2
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We must be cousins, I moved to USA in 1968. My father was Charles Frances Champion. My cousin Janet (mother Mary Bicknell) and I are visiting Alveston this month and plan to explore the area, visit the Owls Nest and the cemetery amongst other places.