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I am interested in any and all McLures (any spelling) on Skye, and in particulaer, the Sleat area. I have a large database of families, and tons of birth and marriage certificates for McLure's and collateral families in Sleat.
My main line is the descendants of Farquhar McLure and Christina McPherson, both born abt. 1747.
Their Son - Malcolm McLure married Ann Beaton or Bethune in 1801.
If your people are from Sleat, I just might have something on them in my pile of certificates.
Fingers crossed that we can make some connections
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Hello Debbie,
My dad was born in Skye, in 1931 and his folks all lived in Ardvasar Village/Calligarry, Sleat,.going back 200 years previous. My dad is Alexander Kennedy, his dad was Malcolm and his Grandad was also Alexander, who was a Merchant in Ardvasar, and owned the village shop. I recall that my dad said the Kennedys married into the MacLures
(and MacIntyres/Macleans/Macdonalds!) and I regularly visit Skye and stay at Janet MacLure's cottage in Calligarry.
I've managed to trace back the Kennedy's to around 1850's when my Gt Grandad Alexander was born, and he had 10 children, the last of whom, my Gt Aunt Isobel, still lives in sheltered accommodation in Broadford, Skye. I've more or less hit a brick wall, as regards going back beyond 1850, and if you have any info in your possession that may shed any further light, I would be most grateful.
Kind regards
McVitie
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Hi there McVitie,
I have a few Kennedy's in the file, the ones with a McLure connection are as follows - Archie Kennedy born 1817 married Christina McInnes, and his father - also Archie Kennedy born 1780's, married Morgach McLure.
I don't have a Malcolm on file. However, you should be able to get back to the early 1800's with the Sleat PR's. They start in abt. 1816. The 1841census for Ardvasar is on line at -
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~relys4u/
Do you have the parents of your Great Grandad Alexander? Or any of the wives names that married into the family?
I have a pretty big database of the Sleat families, and I would be happy to check any of your other names.
I haven't met Janet MacLure, I know her son David. We met the last time Chris & I were over there for a holiday. We stayed at Homeleigh (post office) in Ardvasar, and had a fabulous holiday.
Deb
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Hi again McVitie,
I forgot to add - you may want to check the Kennedy entries on http://www.sctbdm.com/
I have uploaded a couple, but my good friend Catherine King has uploaded details of quite a few Kennedy BBD's in Sleat to this site.
It's worth a look!
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Hello Debbie,
Thanks for the extra info - I will having a look through this a bit later today - I'm making the most of father's day!!!!
Kind regards
McV
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Hi there,
My lot are all from the Sleat and Sasaig areas of Skye - family names of McGillivray, Matheson, Nicolson and Robertson.
I do have an Angus McGillivray who married a Mary McLure in about 1819, and she then died sometime before 1825, when Angus remarried. They were living in Druiforn Sleat.
Does this ring any bells - would love any info you might have connecting with these families!!
Thanks then!
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I do have an Angus McGillivray who married a Mary McLure in about 1819, and she then died sometime before 1825, when Angus remarried. They were living in Druiforn Sleat.
Hi Kylie B,
I don't have your Mary McLure's marriage to Angus McGillivray.
Who did Angus re-marry after the death of Mary?
It's a shame that Mary died so early! No way to find her parents without a death cert., and I have no info from the PR on her birth circa 1800.
Were there any children from the marriage of Angus and Mary?
I have an Angus McGillivray in the file, married to Margaret Campbell - they were also from Drumfearn. They had at least 2 children, - Christy born abt. 1824 - married Charles McLure
and Donald, born abt. 1827, married Peggy Robertson.
Deb
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Hi Deb,
I am just in the process of moving house, so don't have everything with me, but interestingly I have
Angus McGillivray marrying a Helen MacDonald c.1825, after Mary McLure's death....
The children from marriage with Mary were I think John and Christy, and then there was a Donald and Margaret born of the marriage to Helen.
And I do have that Christy marrying Charles McLure, and Donald marrying Peggy Robertson!!
Where did you find the marriage to Margaret Campbell? It is so difficult connecting records in Skye because there are so many families with the same names and ages!
Let me know, and I will look up my stuff properly and get in touch again soon!
Cheers
Kylie
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Hi Kylie,
Actually, looking over the sources for this family, there are a couple of discrepancies!
I got the Angus MacGillivray/Marg. Campbell marriage info from a transcript of Daughter Christy's death cert, dated July 9, 1888 at Drumfearn.
But also in my notes is this:
(Notes from Catherine King, copied from the Register at Portree Library.)
Christina McClure, died 9/6/1888, at Drumfearn, aged 66 years, w. of Charles McClure (crofter), f: Angus McGillivray, crofter, m: Margaret McClure.
"It is not clear whether Christy's Mother was Margaret Campbell (from transcription of death certificate) or Margaret McClure from the above transcription. Also, there is a discrepancy on the date of death - June or July of 1888."
There is a possibility that the info on the death cert is incorrect, I haven't seen the original, but the transcript notes that the informant was Christy's Brother - Donald.
Did you get the details of Angus' first marriage to Mary McLure from his death cert? When your move is over with, I sure would be interested in getting more details from you.
It would appear that these families are one and the same, and that the info regarding Margaret Campbell as being the Mother was not right!
Here is the family of Angus & Helen from the 1841 - all listed under MacGillivray.
Angus 50 Aglab
Helen 35
John 20 boatbuilders app
Christy 15
Donald 13
Mgt 11
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Hi Debbie,
This lot are a confusing bunch arn't they!!
OK - On John McG's death certificate in Aust, his parents are listed as Angus McG and Margaret Campbell (informant was his wife Ann Grant). So this would seem to match the info on Christy McClure's death certificate too.....
According to Roy McG (clan researcher) and Clan Donald records, Angus married Helen MacDonald (died circa1819) and then remarried to Mary MacLure.....and this is obviously wrong as Helen was alive and well on the 1841 census!!
Maybe Angus married all 3?? Or perhaps Margaret Campbell was indeed his first wife, and Helen his second, and Mary/Margaret MacLure was in fact Charles MacLure's mother??
???I'm not at all sure where to go from here to clarify this one - any ideas?? Would that info even be on Angus's death certificate? ???
Let me know what you think - determined to sort this lot out!! I love a challenge....luckily ;)
Kylie
PS I have been told that it was not uncommon to shorten just about any name starting with M to Mary at that time....just to add further complication!!
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yes, they are a confusing bunch!
I see on familysearch.org John McG's birth is given as abt. 1819, Sleat, and his marriage to Ann Grant is recorded as Feb. 13, 1846, which would put John age 27.
Both entries are Patron submissions, as opposed to transcripts from the Sleat PR's.
John is the eldest boy on the 1841 census, at age 20, so it would appear that at least John, and Christy were the children of Angus McG and Margaret Campbell.
The two younger siblings - Donald (age 13 in 1841) and Margaret (age 11 in 1841) could have been the children of Helen McDonald if her and Angus McG were married in 1825?
I don't have anything further on Margaret, but I know that Donald MacG married Peggy Robertson, Jan 31 1860 at Sleat, again from familysearch.org, (a transcript from the civil register.) I haven't seen the certificate.
It just might give a history of the many wives of Angus McG on his death certificate. Do we know if he died in Scotland? Or did the family all go to Australia?
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Hi Kylie,
we are just home from holidays - PM me, with your email address, I have about 7 pages worth of info all together in a descendants report on the Angus MacGillivray family.
Too much to post here!!
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Hi debbie -
Great to hear from you!
My email address is :
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Will look forward to hearing from you
Kylie
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I will email the report!
It probably doesn't contain too much new info for you, but every little bit helps when you are on the hunt for a particular family. :)
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Hi Debbie,
Since my first reply to you in your post, I found out that my Gt Grandfather, Alexander Kennedy, was born in Sleat in 1855, and whose parents were Donald Kennedy and Mary Maclure.
I don't as yet have any further details of their marriage or birth dates but thought there may well be a connection to your side of the Maclure tree - who knows!
Kind regards
McVitie
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Hi McVitie,
Still searching for the connection, although there must be one somewhere!
These are all the children attributed to Donald & Mary on the IGI. There must have been others???
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There is a possibility that your Mary McLure is the daughter of Donald McLure and Cath. McIntyre, born March 6, 1836 at Sleat. If so, we are definitely connected. :)
Her death certificate would tell for sure!
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Hi Debbie,
Thanks so much for the IGI info - I was beginning to have doubts that my Gt Grandad Alexander Kennedy born in 1855 was the wrong family connection, since there is also the same name born in 1856, to an Archibald Kennedy married to Ann. I do believe the names of his brothers/sister are indeed our family line as my dad has heard of a Gt Uncle Niel and Donald.
As for the Maclure connection, her death cert will hold that vital clue!
Kind regards
McVitie
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Let me know how you go on - if she does turn out to be the Mary McLure I suspect she is, I will have a ton of info for you. :)
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Hi Debbie,
Have just got the downloaded image. Different parents names, but here's details of her death as follows:-
Name - Mary Kennedy, Widow of Donald Kennedy (Crofter/Carpenter)
Died - 20/11/1871, at 5 o/c in morning, Calligary, Sleat.
Age 47 (born circa 1824).
Name of father - Niel McLure (surname spelt without an "a"), Schoolmaster, Deceased.
Name of mother - Abbie McLure (nee Nicholson), Deceased.
Died of (I think it says) Typhus Fever (10 days)
Informant - Donald Kennedy - nephew to deceased, of Calligary, Sleat.
Even more extraordinary, the person above Mary's entry is her husband, who dies on the same day!!
Details as follows:-
Name - Donald Kennedy - married to Mary McLure.
Died 20/11/1871 at 1 o/c in morning, Calligary, Sleat.
Age - 65
Father - Alex Kennedy, Crofter, deceased.
Mother - Christy (can't read clearly) Kennedy, nee Buchannan, deceased.
Dies of Typhus Fever after 8 days.
Informant - Donald Kennedy, Nephew, of Calligary, Sleat.
I can't believe they both died on the same day within 4 hours of each other - my dad will certainly be shocked to hear all of this!!
Hope this connects us somehow Debbie - too much of a coincidence if not!
I love this genealogy stuff - there's so much to discover, and so rewarding when you do!
Kindest regards
McVitie
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Here is everything I have on the family of Neil McLure and Abigail Nicholson. There is a big possibility that Neil is the brother of my Malcolm McLure that married Ann Beaton. But there is no proof as Neil died before 1855 and the start of civil reg.
Descendants of Neil McLure
Generation No. 1
1. Neil McLure was born Abt. 1770 in Skye, and died Bef. 1851. He married Abigail Nicolson Bef. 1819. She was born Abt. 1781 in Sleat, Isle of Skye, and died Bef. 1871.
More About Neil McLure:
Census: 1841, Aird, Sleat
Occupation: Teacher
More About Abigail Nicolson:
Census 1: 1851, widow of 23 Parshaig, Sleat
Census 2: 1841, Aird, Sleat
Children of Neil McLure and Abigail Nicolson are:
2 i. Malcolm McLure, born June 17, 1813 in Sleat, Isle of Skye.
More About Malcolm McLure:
Baptism: June 20, 1813, Sleat, Isle of Skye
Census: 1841, Agricultural Labourer of Aird, Sleat
3 ii. Catharine McLure, born June 01, 1815 in Tocavaig, Sleat, Isle of Skye, died February 01, 1871 in Sleat, Isle of Skye.
More About Catharine McLure:
Baptism: July 23, 1815, Sleat, Isle of Skye
Note: July 07, 1815, Possible date of birth
LDS, IGI, FHL Film # 0990672, 2 different IGI transcriptions state 2 birth dates, could be transcription error
4 iii. Ann McLure, born Abt. 1821 in Sleat, Isle of Skye.
More About Ann McLure:
Census 1: 1851, widow of 23 Parshaig, Sleat
Census 2: 1841, Aird, Sleat
Occupation: General Servant
5 iv. Christy McLure, born August 01, 1824 in Tocovaig, Sleat, Isle of Skye.
More About Christy McLure:
Baptism: September 16, 1824, Sleat, Isle of Skye
Census 1: 1851, 23 Parshaig, Sleat
Census 2: 1841, Aird, Sleat
6 Mary McLure, born Abt.
Census: 1841, Aird, Sleat
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Hi Debbie,
Thanks for all the McLure/Nicholson info - that will save me a huge amount of time.
Interesting question about Niel possibly being your Malcolm's brother. I will delve deeper and see what I can uncover, but as you say, records pre 1855 are not as easy to get hold of.
Presumably if we could find both their birth entries, then maybe connect them through their parents, but without knowing their exact DOBs, it would be difficult to pin them down to a specific date. But that's what makes this family history such a challenge.
Thanks again for the info - If I come a cross any McLure names in my travels I'll let you know..
Kind regards
McVitie
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Hi McVitie,
I have already checked for the birth entries. The Sleat Parish Register film starts in 1813. At the beginning of the register, the new minister notes that his predecessor, being soft in the head, (or words to that effect) had burned all previous registers, and he was forced to start anew.
So, I tried to tackle it a different way, and ordered from Scotlands People almost every single McLure death and marriage for Sleat that was available, in hopes of tying the early families together by parents names reported on the certs.
Worked fantastic! But unfortunately, if they died, or married before 1855, we are out of luck on that avenue as well.
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Hi Debbie,
I suspect that the old minister was a little affected by the local firewater! why on earth he would wish to destroy all that valuable info is plain crazy.
But we'll keep on plugging away - thanks for all your help so far. :D
Kind regards
McVitie
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Hello Debbie
My forebears were Macphersons from Sleat. Janet (maiden name McPherson) died 1880, married to Martin McPherson from Miningish (d. 1869). I've got details of their offspring but maybe they're too late for your records.
I'd be very interested to know if you have anything that might help.
Roddie
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Well here we go with another McLure.
I am Ronnie McLure 52 from Glasgow
My Father was Ronnie McLure, born 1921 In Glasgow
His Mother was Flora McLure born 1901 in Glasgow
Her Father was Farquhar McLure, Born 1854 in Sleat
Farquhar had at least 10 children from 1883 to 1903
to two wives. Wife number one was Margaret Nicholson
His first wedding was on the seventh June 1882 when he was 29 and she was 20
Flora Ann born 1883, Flora Ann. Married a guy called Martin Mclean in 1911 in Glasgow
Neil born in Killin Perthshire 1884
Catherine born 1887
Mary Margaret born 1889
Malcolm born 1890
Farquhar born in 1894
Margaret Nicholson Born in 1896
He got married to Maggie McLure on the seventeenth of April 1899 in Greenock
He was 44 and she was 29
This was his second wedding
Hector born 1899
Hector died in 1920, a single man. Died of TB
Flora 1901 Still trying to find out why they had two children called Flora
Susan born 1903
His father was Malcolm and his mother was Catherine
and thats where the trail goes cold.
Any help would be most welcome.
Ronnie McLure
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Janet (maiden name McPherson) died 1880, married to Martin McPherson from Miningish (d. 1869).
Hi Roddie,
Sorry for the delay in replying, I am fighting a case of pneumonia, and it's been winning so far!!
I just checked through my list of McPhersons, and I don't have anything on your Janet. Although most of my McPherson references are where they have married into the McLure family.
I will check again if you give me Janet's parents names? You never know.... :)
Debbie
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His father was Malcolm and his mother was Catherine
and thats where the trail goes cold.
Any help would be most welcome.
Hi Ronnie,
I know your McLures very well. According to the kinship calculator on family tree maker, I am your 4th cousin once removed, and also your 5th cousin. We are related through both - Farquhar and his 2nd wife Maggie, (They were 1st cousins once removed)
Farquhar's father - Malcolm McLure was a brother to my 3x great grandfather William McLure
I will PM you my regular email address, I have a ton of info I can share with you.
Crikey - I just noticed that was your very first post on Rootschat!! Talk about luck!! :D
Debbie
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I have a record of a Donald Nicholson whose son Neil married a Mary McLure. They had a son John Nicholson (1790) who (m 1810) Meron / Marion McInnes - daughter of Malcolm and Margaret McInnes of Heaste.
Do you have any other McInnes connections in your files from Sleat / Strath including Drumfearn area please?
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Hi!
I have a pretty good selection of McInnes and Nicolson within my family files who have married McLures. I have checked for the names that you mentioned in your post, and I don't appear to have your family. Sorry!
One of the earlier ones I have is a Neil McInnes b. abt 1787, that married Mary Matheson - they were a Drumfearn family.
Any use to you?
Do you have any idea who your Mary McLures parents were?
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Yeap... Neil (m) Matheson is the son of Miles McInnes (m) Marion McKenzie. He was originally from Leitir Fura where his father Black John McInnes was one of the last occupants. (relocated by MacDonald in circa 1792 to Drumfearn). Neil was one of 6 or 7 boys I think it was and one daughter Catherine who married a Donald McInnes from Heaste across the loch, (son of Malcolm McInnes (m) Margaret Buchanan).
This Malcolm was also related to Miles of Drumfearn and I have all of this somewhere. The Nicholson / Mary McLure bit I copied in last message is recorded along with Angus Nicholson's family in the front of his bible from Drumfearn (he emigrated to Picton, Australia). He was a son of the John and Meron (nee McInnes) Nicholson's mentioned.
Anything you have on any McInnes's would be appreciated to add to my growing jigsaw puzzle and if I can help in anyway please advise - email is (*)
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Miles McInnes of Drumfearn - was the the Miles that married Mary McLure March 5, 1844. They had at least one son - Malcolm - born in December of 1845.
If you are concentrating on the McInnes family, you need to speak to Rosanne McInnes in Australia. I will pm you her email address. Hopefully she hasn't changed it! (It's been ages since we last chatted.)
Rosanne has a huge collection of all things McInnes on Skye.
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The Miles you refer to was later although don't seem to have him fitted in anywhere. No doubt off one of the lines and as you say Rossane has more. I am a bit like Rossanne but not as used to technology. What I have in my material is a McInnes line going back to 1500's that looks like....
It would be worth testing the verasity of this with Maggie MacDonald at Clan Donald Centre although I have not done this... My McInnes line I can best gauge is ....
Angus Mor (suggested as related to murdered last Laird McInnes from Morvern - possibly a brother)
Miles (given land Leitir Fura Slate (Sleat))
Neil (Leitir Fura)
John (Leitir Fura) and brother Angus Og (captain of men of Sleat captured 1601)
Malcolm (Leitir Fura) and bother Angus line to Isleornsay / merchant
John(Leitir Fura)
Malcolm (Leitir Fura)
*Black John - Angus - **Donald - Duncan - Miles (to US / War of Independence) - (all born Leitir Fura)
*Miles (b Leitir Fura - last to be buried Isle Ornsay) (m) Marion McKenzie - shifted to Drumfearn circa 1792
(have a list of Miles's brothers / sister also who supposedly were Malcolm - Angus Mor - Angus Og - John - Neil - Rachael)
Miles & Marion (Drumfearn)had :
*Donald - Alexander- John- Neil - Malcolm(1801) - Angus(Sandy) - Miles - Catherine (c1806)
Catherine McInnes (Drumfearn) (m) ***Donald McInnes (Heaste) (my g, g, grandparents)
From ** Donald above
Malcolm - to Heaste
*** Donald
The Miles McInnes (m) Mary McLure you refer to will be related off one of the lines no doubt .... without having all of this in a database it is bit hard for me to follow sometimes. I must ask Rossane if she has a database that I can add to ...
Hope this hasn't confused you .... It maybe of use to others also...
Regards
Clinton McInnes
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My family tree goes back to Malcolm Mclure and Anne Beaton
William Mclure born 1816 sleat was my ggg granda
William married Flora McIntyre in Glenorchy Inshnail in 1840
William and Flora had four daughters Mary-ann,Emily (my gg Gran) Sarah and Flora
After the death of Flora william re-married
William married Lilias Tait in 1853 in Cadder Glasgow
They had a daughter Elizabeth born in 1854.
Emily married William Murray (born in 1839 lesmahagow to Thomas Murray and Margaret Walker)
William had two brothers Thomas and John and one sister Margaret.
Emily and William had two possible three sons John and Arthur
Arthur was born in 1877 in Tenandry Perth Scotland he married Susan McMunigle (Susan's mother and father was Hugh McMunigle and Maryann Donachy they had seven kids James,John,Thomas,Hugh,Maggie, Manuis and Susan
Arthur and Susan where married in Partick Glasgow they had five kids Mary, Arthur,Thomas,Emily and Flora my Gran
Flora married Michael Maloney. Michaels mother and father was John Maloney and Honour(Norah)Darcy his brothers and sister's were John,Annie,Norah,Mary,Thomas,Katie and Maggie
Flora and Michael where married 1930 in Partick Glasgow
their kids were John, Michael,Anne and Elizabeth my Mother
Roseann
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Hello Cousin!!!
Blimey..... you are a descendant of Arthur Scott Murray. We have a LOT to share.
My Great Grandmother was Arthur's sister - Flora McLure McIntyre Murray
Debbie
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And hello from me too! Flora McLure McIntyre Murray was my Granny.
Helen
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Hello Debbie and Helen
I didn't even know Arthur had any sisters, all I could find was a brother John
and I only found out about that from William's death certificate.
Can you let me Know of any other brothers and sisters he had, so I can add it them to my family tree
on Genes Reunited.
Thanks
Roseann x
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:o Hello Helen, Roseann and Debbie.
I found you all now its down to business.
love
Mo
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Hi debbie,, John Mcclure here from southern California.
I have tracked my Mclure's to the 1841 census in Druinfern
they are
Niel Maclure or McLure
dob abt 1790 druinfern
married
Margarat Mcgilvray
dob abt 1790 druinfern
thru their son Donald
dob 5-18-1824 Druinfern
Donald and what I think are his two cousins Hugh MacLure or Mclure and Archibald immigrated on the ship Iowa arriving in New York under the name McClure - on August 16,1850. Donald went on to Indiana where he married my great grandmother Mary Meck. we found both Hugh and Archibald living in Ontario Canada along with many other McLure's / Mcclure's. would like to compare records with you.
Regards John Mcclure
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Hello John,
I'm also descended from William McLure. My grandmother was daughter Sarah McLure married to Thomas Watson.
Welcome to Roots. Aren't they just great bunch.
Mo
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Hi Mo. How does you'r William fit in to my Niel? My g -grandfather Donald had a daughter Susanna , son George William , daughter Mary, daughter Isabella Jane (Jennie), and my grandfather John Edward who was called (Ed). Donald's head stone lists his name as Daniel (Which he was referred to after his marriage) (Donald at the time of his marriage) but the head stone lists
Daniel W. which we have presumed stands for WILLIAM. Yes this is a great site. I've been looking for my scottish ancesters for over 15 years now. Just recently was able to trace to Niel and Margaret.
John
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Hi John,
Haven't had the info through from Debbie yet, she'll still be in bed (ssssh) but we all have the same ggg grandparents. Roseann and Helen also come in about the same time. I am hoping to get to Canada this year and meet them and also get back up to Scotland sometime to meet Roseann. I am down south of UK in Hampshire, England.
Scotlandspeople is great site but its costly and as you say time consumpting.
Mo
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Hi John,
Sunday morning here on the West Coast! I'm up!
I have your Neil McLure and Margaret MacGillivray in my files. I don't have a connection between our families confirmed, but I suspect that Neil may have been a brother or a cousin to my Malcolm McLure born abt. 1772.
I don't have the parentage of your Neil, as the parish registers for Sleat don't begin until abt 1818. So all the early data I have gathered is through purchasing copious amounts of McLure death certificates!
Your Neil married twice - both times to a Margaret MacGillivray. The 1st Margaret - your ancestor - died before 1838., she had 10 children with Neil.
The 2nd Margaret married Neil on Jan 15 1838, and they had two more children together. Margaret #2 died April 20, 1874 at Camuscross.
I have been in contact with 2 people researching the same line as you. David McClure, who still lives in Sleat, although he may have moved as his email is bouncing, and Ross Hunter who lives in England.
My hubby and I met David the last time we were over in Skye.
I have about 15 pages of stuff on your line, all on the Scottish side - I don't have anything on the emigrants to Canada or the US.
If you PM me your home email address, I will send it to you.
Debbie in Sunny Vancouver!
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Hello Cuz. Isn't this all just great.
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Good morning Mo! Yes, it really is a great gathering place for all of us :)
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Hi Debbie in Vancouver.
Great day when I found you in google yesterday. I,ve been working on tracking my McClure's for over 15 years and
getting nowhere untill the last month or so.
My e-mail is (*) I would love to compare our records.
I have thought the second marriage of Niel and Margaret was actually the marriage of Niel the son of Niel and Margaret . ?????
I have the genealogy software "Family Tree" which will make it easier if you also have it to transfer files. Look forward to recieving your info. Send me your e- mail and I will also send what I have put together.
Cuz. John In Sunny Los Angeles
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Morning John :) I am putting a report in the email for you.
Deb
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Hello Debbie,
I have recently discovered some ancestors who come from Sleat in Skye and wondered if you had any information about them.
Alexander Robertson (34) Calligary, married Catherine MacPherson (27) Ord. on 24th November 1857. Alexander was a fisherman - his parents were Archibald Robertson & Christina McKinnon. Archibald was a cottar. Catherine's parents were Ewen MacPherson & Mary Robertson.
Alexena
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Debbie, I think you are correct. Niel McLure and Margaret were listed in the 1841 census , he was 50 and she was 30. would put her birth at about 1811. I recieved your file thru my e-mail but I was unable to open it. I don't have microsoft 2000. Is it possible to send the file some other way.?
Could you list the first 10 children that you have for Niel's marriage to the fist Margaret McGillivary? I only have 7 listed.
Thanks --- John McClure
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Just a "wee note" for Mo. You wont find me in Canada - I'm in Australia.
Helen
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Hi John, I have re-sent the file in plain txt format. The first file was a Family Tree Maker 2005 generated report in rtf format.
You will lose some of the formatting, but the info should remain the same.
Let me know if you are able to open it successfully.
I goofed on the 10 children for Neil and Margaret - I believe there was 8 to the first marriage, and 2 to the second marriage.
The first 8 are -
Mary, Alexander, Donald, Neil, Donald, James, Ann, John
Deb
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Hello Debbie,
I have recently discovered some ancestors who come from Sleat in Skye and wondered if you had any information about them.
Alexander Robertson (34) Calligary, married Catherine MacPherson (27) Ord. on 24th November 1857. Alexander was a fisherman - his parents were Archibald Robertson & Christina McKinnon. Archibald was a cottar. Catherine's parents were Ewen MacPherson & Mary Robertson.
Alexena
Hi Alexena,
I have gone through my database, and I do have lots of Robertsons, and McPhersons. But none that match your family! Sorry
Deb :(
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Thanks Debbie, I had all of them except for the first child Mary. I'll add the other individuals in the next few days and then get back to you.
Thanks again. John
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Helen got invite to go to Oz for Xmas. Not sure what I'm doing though. First stop will probably be Canada. lol!
Moira
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Thanks Debbie, I had all of them except for the first child Mary. I'll add the other individuals in the next few days and then get back to you.
Thanks again. John
I'm glad it came through O.K. John :)
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Hi everyone,
my 4x G Grandfather was a Neil Nicolson married to Mary McClure probably from Sleat or maybe Strath. I'm descended from their son Alexander b.c. 1786 who was in living in Waterloo in 1841. He was married married to Janet McKinnon and they had 10 or 11 kids. I think the earlier kids were born in Sleat and the later ones in Strath.
Do you think this could be the same Neil you are talking about? I hope so as I know virtually nothing about him. Any information would be great.
Cheers
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Hi colkitto,
I checked through my files, and I'm sorry to say I have nothing on your Mary McLure and Neil Nicolson. :(
I guess your Mary died before the onset of civil registration in 1855? So you probably don't have her parents names?
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Hi Debbie,
thats a pity, Mary is my only McClure out of what must be in the hundreds of relatives in Sleat. You must be a bit of a rare breed. I do know a few present day McClures in Sleat, so back to the drawing board.
Many thanks for looking for Mary.
Regards Andrew
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Hi Andrew,
The Sleat families all seem to be connected in one way or another, I am willing to bet there is a connection between our families somewhere along the line!
The only present day McClure I know in Sleat is David - but now I think he has moved to the mainland as well? He was in University the last time we met. That was 5 or 6 years ago.
There is a possibility that your Mary was a sister to my Malcolm McLure born about 1780. I was lucky that he died after 1855, and was able to get his parents names from the death cert.
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Hi Debbie,
Im sure we must be related somewhere! My family have lived in Sleat for as long as records exist! I think David works for Cal Mac ferries now. His father and mother know my parents well. David and his brothers were toddlers when I was still on Skye. ( I'm 39 ) I would love to find a link with the McClures. I find this whole link fascinating.
My name is Andrew Macdonald and my family still live in Kilmore. Mcvitie on this link is a Kennedy and my cousin Angus Macdonald is married to Ishabel Kennedy and they live in Dunpark in Ferrindonald in Sleat.
I noticed in the thread there is reference to MacInnes as well. I went to Primary school with the Hannah children who are the kids of Marion MacInnes from Drumfearm and Norman Hannah.
best regards
keep in touch
Andrew
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hi Andrew,
Yes, David was working on the ferry when we were last over there. :)
His email addy is bouncing now though, that's what made me think he possibly has moved.
I did a little booklet for the Clan Donald library, a History of the McLure families of Sleat. I gathered as much info as I could find from all the census, parish registers, and other researchers, and put it all together in one little booklet.
So I have tons of info on my computer including all the collateral families.
Lots of MacInnes, MacDonald, MacPherson, Nicolson, MacLean, Kelly, MacKinnon etc.
I keep everything I find on the Sleat families, you never know when it might come in useful!
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Hi Debbie,
I'd love to see your booklet. Margaret Mcdonald the archivist at the Clan Donald Centre lives in the coft behind my parents in Kilmore. When I go home again in August I will be sure to look it up. I have lots of Macdonalds, MacPhersons and Nicolsons in my family tree. And the odd Mackinnon and Mclean
I went to Ferrindonad Primary School in Sleat from 1975 to 1980 and then Portree High school thereafter. I live in Lincolnshire now with my wife and two kids.
Does B.C. stand for British Colombia? My e-mail address is * I would be happy to send you my family tree. I am happy to share all my info but I suspect you have a lot more!
best wishes
Andrew
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Margaret McDonald at the library is a really nice lady - so helpful, and knowledgeable about the area families!
I sent you a PM with my email addy.
Deb ;)
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Hi Debbie and Andrew
I am hoping too that there is a connection. I have Mackinnons from Sleat. John Mackinnon born around early 1800's to John and and Anne (Macdonald). He married Catherine who was also a Mackinnon. Her parents were John and Mary (Macdonald)
John and Catherine were married in Sleat.
Anything on any of them. here's hoping
Cheers
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Nothing in my files on your MacKinnons's - maybe Andrew will have some stuff on them?
Fingers crossed for you! :)
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Debbie is being too modest - it is more than a booklet, a fantastic piece of work.
Helen
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;D ;D you are a sweetie! ;D ;D
(no wonder Helen is my favourite cousin)
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Shame you can't get to me Debbie.
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Shame you can't get to me Debbie.
During your Toronto visit? Yeah... it's a long way from the west Coast. :)
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next time maybe. Heard from Lindsay but not from other Helen nr toronto.
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POSTED IN ERROR.
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who were your parents & grandparents Swirly?????
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Hi Swirly,
Can you tell us who your husband's parents & grandparents were please? William Murray & Emily McLure were my great grandparents,
I'm descended from their daughter Flora, as is Debbie in B.C. We can certainly help you out if you tell us who your husband is. :)
Helen
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and mine too
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"Posted in error" ??? That's too bad Swirly, :'( it's always thrilling finding new branches of the family tree.
Helen
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Hi Debbie,
I'm The Ross that you mentioned in your earlier post in this thread. Its been some years since we last had any e-mail correspondence. Are you able to PM me your e-mail address, as my e-mail contact details have changed and so I have lost your e-mail details (I'm no longer working in Nottingham, as I was when we were in contact).
Also, I'm really interested in this MacLure history booklet that you have compiled.
Hope to hear from you soon. Thanks
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Hiya Ross!
I will pm you my email addy. :)
I only had a few copies of the booklet, there is a copy at the Library of the Clan Donald Centre in Armadale.
Deb
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Hello Debbie,
I noticed you have information on the marriage between Niel McLure and Margaret McGillivray on 15 Jan 1838. Margaret is my GGG Grandaunt, daughter of Donald McGillivray and Mary McInnes. Just wondering what other information you may have on this couple? I know they had a daughter, Margaret, who married Niel MacKinnon 18 Jan 1859.
Margaret McGillivray had three brothers, John, Donald and Malcolm who married Catherine McLure 16 feb 1840. I descend from Donald McGillivray, who married Christina McDonald 18 Jan 1831 Sleat. They are my GGG Grandparents.
I look forward to hearing from you.
Regards,
Greg Walker.
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Hi Greg,
PM me your main email address, and I will send you a gen report on what I have on Niel & Margaret - I have about 12 pages on them.
Deb
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Hi Debbie,
Thanks for your reply.
Cheers,
Greg.
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Hi Debbie,
Thanks for your reply. I have sent you my email.
I live in Melbourne, Australia.
Cheers,
Greg.
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Hi Greg,
PM me your main email address, and I will send you a gen report on what I have on Niel & Margaret - I have about 12 pages on them.
Deb
Hi there do you have a Jemima Mclure b.1859 paisley scotland d.1915 Hawera Taranaki NZ on your list? Jemima married a Rob Carmichael a farmer and not much has surfaced about them from where I am in Australia
Hope you can help?
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Checked my lists, sorry, no Jemima among them.
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thanks,
I will keep searching
all the best
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hey my grandfather was john maloney who was flora murray and micheal maloney's son born in 1931.John immigrated to Toronto Canada and had six childen. He married Kathrine Kelly who is also from glasgow
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Hi rianemalo,
Welcome to the forum. :)
Your granny, Flora Murray, was my mothers cousin. Flora's father Arthur Scot Murray and my granny, Flora McLure McIntyre Murray were brother and sister.
Roseann McEwen who posts on this forum would be your cousin - her parents were Elizabeth Maloney and Thomas McEwen.
If you are after info on the Maloneys she's your girl. If you are after info on the Murrays then cousin Deb (Deb in B.C.) or I can
help you out there.
Helen
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Hello Helen long time no hear. How are you?
Welcome Rianemalo too.
More cousins the merrier
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Hi, yes it has been a long time hasn't it? How are you? How's the research going?
It's been very quiet on the McLure front hasn't it?
Helen
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I don't know if you remember me Debbie. You helped me a while back with the McLures. Now I am headed for Scotland and would love to put my feet on the sod where my great grandfather walked. He was Neil McLure born in Broadford January 1855. I will send more info if someone can help me.
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Is your book available. The McLure one?
Thanks
Jeannie
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Hi there,
My lot are all from the Sleat and Sasaig areas of Skye - family names of McGillivray, Matheson, Nicolson and Robertson.
I do have an Angus McGillivray who married a Mary McLure in about 1819, and she then died sometime before 1825, when Angus remarried. They were living in Druiforn Sleat.
Does this ring any bells - would love any info you might have connecting with these families!!
Thanks then!
Hi Kylie,
I am a Sleat/Lower Breakish descendant of McGillivray, Nicolson, and Munro. Am an Aussie and I think you have gone further back than me but suspect there is definitely a link. Hope we can chat re this, my email is (*)
Have not worked out how to use this forum properly yet. Grateful for any advice.
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I am interested in any and all McLures (any spelling) on Skye, and in particulaer, the Sleat area. I have a large database of families, and tons of birth and marriage certificates for McLure's and collateral families in Sleat.
My main line is the descendants of Farquhar McLure and Christina McPherson, both born abt. 1747.
Their Son - Malcolm McLure married Ann Beaton or Bethune in 1801.
If your people are from Sleat, I just might have something on them in my pile of certificates.
Fingers crossed that we can make some connections
Hi Debbie,
I am amazed by how many people you have helped and I suspect you may be able to help me, I am a descendant of Neil MacGillivray and Janet Nicolson. I really need to get access to some family books but am having lots of trouble finding them. Happy to pay for any books you know of and can get access to, also happy to share info on my branches with any people who are interested. Thank you for all the sharing you have already done.
Mary
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my great grandfather was Neil Mclure born 28 Jan 1855 in Broadford. His parents were Alexander McLure and Margaret MacInnes. Siblings were Margaret (1845) Ann (1848) Marion (1849) William (1857) Christy (1846) Peggy (1852) Christina ( 1859) James (1862) and Neil (1865) middle initial is different.
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Hi Debbie,
My g-g-grandmother was Mary McLure and she married my g-g-grandfather, Donald McLure in Drumfearn on Januay 22, 1824. My g-grandmother, Cathrine was born on January 18, 1828 and baptised on March 4, 1828. The town is listed as (I think) Ord. The whole family migratd to Canada and Cathrine married Laughlin McLean in Ontario on January 1, 1867. I have the records from then on, but wish I had more on the Sleat history. I visited Drumfearn, Camus Cros (where either Mar's parents or Donald's parents lived and the young couple moved there right after the wedding. They then built a black house on Lot 8 Totscore. I have pictures of the ruins. Let me know if you have any of these folks in your files. Thanks!
Pipers Wench
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I have a Mary MacLure married Niel Nicolson, died 1858.
She had 5 children;
Alexander, b.1786
John, b. 1786
Malcolm, b. 1788
Angus, b. 1790
Margaret, b 1792
Does anyone have any further information about her?
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I guess my email notifications have not been working on this thread! Oh boy.... I see several messages here, that I should have replied to since last September, and I didn't see them uintil now. :o :o
Apologies to everyone!!!
I have to head out for a wee while, but as soon as I get back, I will go through all the messages, and try and help where I can. :)
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hey my grandfather was john maloney who was flora murray and micheal maloney's son born in 1931.John immigrated to Toronto Canada and had six childen. He married Kathrine Kelly who is also from glasgow
Hi! sorry I missed your message, I have sent you a pm.
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I don't know if you remember me Debbie. You helped me a while back with the McLures. Now I am headed for Scotland and would love to put my feet on the sod where my great grandfather walked. He was Neil McLure born in Broadford January 1855. I will send more info if someone can help me.
Hi Jeannie, of course I remember :) I owe you an apology! i have just seen your post from Last September. I will send you a private message.
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Hi Debbie,
I am amazed by how many people you have helped and I suspect you may be able to help me, I am a descendant of Neil MacGillivray and Janet Nicolson. I really need to get access to some family books but am having lots of trouble finding them. Happy to pay for any books you know of and can get access to, also happy to share info on my branches with any people who are interested. Thank you for all the sharing you have already done.
Mary
Hi Mary! I just sent you a private message.
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Hi Debbie,
My g-g-grandmother was Mary McLure and she married my g-g-grandfather, Donald McLure in Drumfearn on Januay 22, 1824. My g-grandmother, Cathrine was born on January 18, 1828 and baptised on March 4, 1828. The town is listed as (I think) Ord. The whole family migratd to Canada and Cathrine married Laughlin McLean in Ontario on January 1, 1867. I have the records from then on, but wish I had more on the Sleat history. I visited Drumfearn, Camus Cros (where either Mar's parents or Donald's parents lived and the young couple moved there right after the wedding. They then built a black house on Lot 8 Totscore. I have pictures of the ruins. Let me know if you have any of these folks in your files. Thanks!
Pipers Wench
Hello!! I am so sorry that I have not replied before this. Yes, I have a ton of info on you family, but like you, it's all from after Donald married Mary. I have been in contact with cousins of yours who are also doing research. Many years ago!
In the 1841 census, Donald and Mary are living at
1841 Census Totscore,Kilmuir,Skye
Donald McLure 40
Mary " 35
Alexr. " 14
Catherine " 13
Peggy " 12
Ewan " 9
Merion " 1
Do you know who Donald's or Mary's parents were? I have not found either of their christenings to andswer that question. I would LOVE to see the photos you have of the ruins of their old house.
All the best Debbie in BC
ps - I will private message you with my main email address.
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I have a Mary MacLure married Niel Nicolson, died 1858.
She had 5 children;
Alexander, b.1786
John, b. 1786
Malcolm, b. 1788
Angus, b. 1790
Margaret, b 1792
Does anyone have any further information about her?
Hi Roy, did any of the Nicolson contacts pan out? I would love to know who your Mary McLure's parents were. I have not come across her before. Was it Mary that died in 1858? Or her husband Niel Nicolson?
Do you have the death cert?
I have an Alexander Nicolson that married mary beaton abt 1807. They had at least one son Lachlan Nicolson, born 1807 Sleat, he died April 1885 Teangue.
Does this little family match with your Alexander born 1786?
Debbie
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Hi Debbie in BC and Roy,
I am decended from Neil Nicolson and Mary McLure. I have done a tree of the decendents of thier sons Alexander and John. I am decended from Alexander Nicolson. Happy to share my info.
I would be grateful also for any more info on Neil and Mary.
regards
Andrew
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I have a Mary MacLure married Niel Nicolson, died 1858.
She had 5 children;
Alexander, b.1786
John, b. 1786
Malcolm, b. 1788
Angus, b. 1790
Margaret, b 1792
Does anyone have any further information about her?
Hi Roy, did any of the Nicolson contacts pan out? I would love to know who your Mary McLure's parents were. I have not come across her before. Was it Mary that died in 1858? Or her husband Niel Nicolson?
Do you have the death cert?
I have an Alexander Nicolson that married mary beaton abt 1807. They had at least one son Lachlan Nicolson, born 1807 Sleat, he died April 1885 Teangue.
Does this little family match with your Alexander born 1786?
Debbie
Hi Debbie
Thanks for the Nicolson contacts, I haven't had time to follow them up yet, but I will.
I did my research on the Drumfern Nicolsons during a visit to Edinburgh around 1981, I was trying to get through as much as I could, and my notes are a bit sketchy. I can't find any reference to the 1858 death of Mary in my notes from that time, so I must have added it later, but I can't recall the source. It was definitely Mary, though, and not John. I seem to recall the parish records for Sleat do not start until 1813, and do not include deaths. The marriage of John Nicolson and Mary MacLure is from a script in the family Bible of their grandson Angus Nicolson, who emigrated to Australia via New Zealand about 1840.
There is a John Nicolson (84) and wife Mary (70) & in Drumfern, Sleat in the 1841 Census.
I have no notes on Alexander other than his birth (about 1786) and I can no longer see where I got that from, I'm sorry.
Roy
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I am decended from Neil Nicolson and Mary McLure. I have done a tree of the decendents of thier sons Alexander and John. I am decended from Alexander Nicolson. Happy to share my info.
....
regards
Andrew
Hi Andrew, I'm descended from John Nicolson, son of Neil Nicolson and Mary MacLure from Drumfern. According to my family records John married Meron Macinnes and had 9 children, Niel, Donald, Angus, Duncan, Malcolm, John, Alex, Peter, and Mary.
Does that match with you records?
Roy Nicolson
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Hi Roy & Andrew,
isn't it lovely how a note on here brings family members together. :)
Andrew - I would love some extra info on Neil & Mary's family to add to my McLure database. I have scoured the death certs at Scotlands People, and bought nearly all of the early McLures, I have not got Mary's though, not all of search lists on SP have the maiden surname transcribed unfortunately
You are correct Roy, the Sleat records start in 1813. No deaths.
If Mary died in 1858, there must be a DC for her under the Nicolson name. That would give her parents.
Andrew, I will pm you my main email address. Unless you want to expand on the little Nicolson family here? I don't need a ton of info - just enought to give the family some substance, and thank you BOTH for the link to another McLure that may well be related to my lot.
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If Mary died in 1858, there must be a DC for her under the Nicolson name. That would give her parents.
... and thank you BOTH for the link to another McLure that may well be related to my lot.
OK, I think I've made a mistake here, probably when I was transcribing my manual tree into the new software. In error, I copied Mary MacLure's death date as that of her daughter-in-law Marion MacInnes (they are next to each other on my old manual tree). So I don't have a death date for Mary, but she is a generation older than I led you to believe. Do you have any Mary MacLures of that vintage (first child 1897)?
Apologies,
Roy
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OK, I think I've made a mistake here, probably when I was transcribing my manual tree into the new software. In error, I copied Mary MacLure's death date as that of her daughter-in-law Marion MacInnes (they are next to each other on my old manual tree). So I don't have a death date for Mary, but she is a generation older than I led you to believe. Do you have any Mary MacLures of that vintage (first child 1897)?
Apologies,
Roy
No worries Roy! I know how easy it is to do that!
I still don't have anything on Mary, but I do suspect that she may have been a sister to my Malcolm McLure born 1780. If not a sister, then a cousin for sure. It is tough to get anything concrete when there are no parish records to check.
Debbie :)
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Hello Debbie,
Was looking through the site and was wondering if you can help me.
My family was from Sleat, and have been able to go back to Neil Buchanan and Janet Maclure. They had a daughter Margaret (born around 1757), who married an Angus Macpherson. My great, great, great grandfather was one of their sons, Norman MacPherson (born about 1796).
I was wondering if you have any information about them in your collection, and also if you had any information about a Donald Robertson (died 1866) and Marion McGillivray and in particular their daughter Janet (born about 1845). Janet in particular, she is my GG Grandmother who married a Norman MacPherson 24th December 1867 (btw one of the sons of the Norman Macpherson I mentioned above.
Thank you for taking the time to read this, and thanks in advance for any help you can provide,
Eilidh Mac a' Phearsain
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Hi Eilidh,
your MacPhersons are probably related to my lot. It's just a shame that there are no records from the mid/late 1700's to positively identify these Sleat family relationships.
My Christina MacPherson born abt. 1747 could have been a cousin or sister to your Angus. :)
Other early MacPherson families that may tie in somehow -
Angus MacPherson married abt. 1815 to Mary Nicolson, daughter Marion born 1815 at Stonefield.
Miles MacPherson who married Marion McLure in 1799, at Camuscross
Catherine MacPherson (daughter of Peter MacPherson) who married William McLure abt. 1816. This family lived in Stonefield and had Una, Farquhar, Ewen, William and Donald.
Donald Robertson and Marion McGillivray - I have details of the death certificate of Catherine Robertson who was born abt. 1831. She married Ranald Robertson in abt. 1862, children - John, Samuel, Mary, Marion and Donald. She died November 8, 1873 at Aird. her parents names - Donald Robertson and Marion McGillivray. Is this your family? I'm sorry that is is the only info I have on them, but I hope it is usefull. :)
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Hi everyone,
I am a decendant of Alexander Maclure who married Margaret Buchanan. They both died before 1866.
Child of Alexander McLure and Margaret Buchanan is:
Donald McLure, born Abt. 1789 in Sleat, Isle of Skye; died May 20, 1866 in Duisdlebeg, Sleat, Isle of Skye.
He married Christy Stewart April 05, 1814 in Sleat, Isle of Skye. She was born Abt. 1791 in Sleat, Isle of Skye, and died Aft. 1866.
Children of Donald and Christy were Margaret, Malcolm, Anne, Mary.
Malcolm married Christina MacGillivray and went on to have a troop of children.
Descendants from the family made their way to Australia, South Africa and possibly Canada/US. Please contact me if you have a link. :)
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Hello everyone,
I don't have McLure links, but I have links to Sleat via my MacDonalds and was wondering if anyone could make any connection.
My 4x Great Grandfather Donald (Daniel) MacDonald was born in Paisley in 1795 and died in Calligary in 1879. He married three times to Jean Pollock in 1819, Margaret MacPherson in 1851 and Margaret Nicholson in 1861.
He had a half brother Niel MacDonald was born in Strath or Sleat and died in Ardvasar in 1874 and was married to Anne MacDonald.
Their mutual father was Alexander MacDonald (born circa 1740-1760) who married Kate McKinnon on Skye (date unknown) before moving to Renfrewshire and marrying Agnes Fletcher. I don't know where he died, whether back in Skye or in the lowlands.
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Hi Debbie,
A few years ago my brother John McClure was in touch with you regarding our family. You had sent him the information that you had, but John passed away and I am trying to continue his work on the family information. I have not found the information that you sent him. So, here is what I have, maybe you can fill in the blanks. All the information is what I found in John's paperwork.
Farquher McClure (1747-?) m. Christina Mcpherson
Children: Rodrick (1770-1883), Neil (1771-?), Malcolm (1772-?)(I think this is the Malcolm you mentioned in your post to him as a relative of yours)
Rodrick (1770- 1883) m. Ann ? (1766-?)
Children: Neil (1788-1851), John (1790-?), Donald (1790-?), Ewin (1801-?), Malcolm (1801-1887), ? (1796-1841), ? (1802-1841?)
Neil McLure (1788-1851) m. Margaret MacGillivrary (1st wife) (1790-1838)
Children: Mary (1790), Alexander (1814), Donald (1818), Neil (1820), Archibald (1823), Donald W. (1824) (My gggrandfather)), James (1826), Anne (1827), John (1830)
Neil McLure m. Margaret MacGillivrary (2nd wife) (1811-1874)
Children: Margaret, John
Donald W. McClure (1824-9/8/1891 Died Logansport Indiana) M. Mary L. Meck (1835-1867)
Children: Susanah Elizabeth (Lizzie) McClure (1855-1944), George William (1858-1929),
Mary Ellen McClure (1860-1861), Isabella Jane (Jennie) McClure (1866-1956), John Edward McClure (1867-1937)
The information on Donald W. McClure life and children, grandchildren, and so on I have. I will be happy to share with you if you would like.
In one of the post to John you stated you had 15 pages of information on my family, I would love to share with you.
This is my first time using this board, so any help with getting you the information would be nice.
Jacky (McClure) Rodrigues, Los Angeles, CA
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Hi Jacky,
Sorry for the delay in getting back to you! I was in Vegas for the last week, and for some reason, I did not receive a notification of your post. Thankfully my Cousin Helen in Australia seen it, and she alerted me to it. :)
I was sorry to hear that John had passed away. I remember corresponding with him several years ago, he lived in L.A. didn't he?
Malcolm McLure son of Farquhar & Christina is my relative on the line. However, I have never found any proof that Farquhar had further sons - Rodrick 1770 and Neil 1771.
So if there is a paper trail in Johns work that leads to them, I would love to see it. :)
Also, I have never found the parents of your Neil (b abt 1788) as he died before 1851, and was unable to verify his parents from a death cert.
Do you know what source John had that linked Neil and his siblings to Rodrick McLure?
Roderick was a common name in the Glenelg branch of the McLures/MacLeors. A huge amount of research was done on that line by Donald Keith Dewar. But neither Donald or I was able to link the Sleat families with the Glenelg families.
I just checked my database, and the descendant report of Neil McLure is indeed 15 pages of info, complete with all sources. So PM me your main email address, and I will send you the info.
I'm so glad that you are carrying on the research.
Debbie
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Hi Debbie,
I will be out of town in Vegas for the next few days for a conference. When I get home I will send you the information I have from John's research. My email is joerod2k@yahoo.com
Jacky
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Hi Jacky, I have sent the report to your email
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Looking for info on Janet Mclure (1812?-1890) Married to Malcolm MacKinnon (1796? -1882) took two sons with them to Australia in 1852 but left unnamed boy 10 ans daughter 15 behind. 1841 census has them in Snizort, Isle of Skye.
Would like info on any of the above.
DVM
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Hi DVM, do you happen to have your Janet's death cert? I don't have her in my database, but if you could give me her parents names, I will look again for anything I might have. :)
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Sadly I do not. I have come up against a brick wall as regards Janet McLure, but Malcolm MacKinnon's parents may have been Donald MacKinnon and Catherine McDonald according to Malcolm's death certificate. That is all I have at this point in time.
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Sorry I was unable to help. maybe someone with MacKinnons will be able to offer assistance. Have you checked Malcolm's grave in Australia, is Janet perhaps buried with him? You have her death as 1890 - is that definite, or a guesstimate based on other facts.
if you can't find Janet MacKinnon in the Australian death indexes, perhaps she married a second time after Malcolm died? You never know, she may be listed under a different name. Maybe you will come across a marriage cert?
Good luck in your research! Here's hoping your brick wall starts to crumble :)
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Thank you.
DVM
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Hi
Im not sure if anyone is still looking at this thread but I have been pointed in this direction by another very helpful member.
I am a descendant from the Nicolson line that has been previously mentioned.
Alexander Nicolson b1780 would have been my 4th great grand father, married Mary Beaton 1785.
I have been trying to find birth, marriage or death cert for them but have drawn a blank. I do however have quite a bit on the descendants down the line. would be happy to share if any good to anyone else.
on looking back at previous threads I could not place the Mary McClure mentioned married to Neil Nicolson...I have a Mary McClure who married Lachlan Nicolson (1/12/1835) her parents were Neil McClure 1788-1851 and Mary Macgillvary 1790-1855. Lachlan was the son of alexander and Mary.
I would love to hear from any distant relatives and would be great to find some photos.
thanks
Jackie Small
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Hi Jackie, and welcome to the thread! I have double checked my database, and like you, I don't have a marriage or death date for either Alexander or Mary, and I only have the one son noted as well - Lachlan, born abt. 1807 in Sleat, and died April 11, 1885 at Teangue. But there must have been other siblings along the way.
Lachlan and Mary's Daughter Margaret - b. 1839. married my relative Hector McLure Nov 1, 1881 at Sleat
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hi
thank you for the reply..I wasn't sure if anyone was still looking at this. Its nice to be in contact with others with some connection. Lachlan was my 3rd great grand father.
from what I know ( I think ??) Alexander and Mary had 6 children.
Ann 1803-1883 wed Alexander Campbell 1827
LACHLAN 1806-1885 wed Mary McClure 1835
Catherine 1810-1880 wed Angus Kelly 1830
Norman 1812-1876 wed Jane MacDonald 1834
Alexander 1812-?
Angus 1813-?
Mostly all lived and died in sleat... there is a Nicholson Skye family tree on ancestry.
All also had many children whose names I have if you want them. ;D
If I find anything for alexander and mary il post it here.
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The Isle of Skye Family History Project......
sorry not the Nicolson tree ( although there are some names on that) but this tree very informative.
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I notice you have Coyle on your tagline as well, where are your Coyles from? :) I have them in Donegal, and Duntocher/Clydebank areas.
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hi
My great g grand father known to be in Renfrew/Johnstone then Airdrie -Lanark shire ..originate from Ireland although not sure where...possibly Straban ?
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hi..i am still on the case of alexander Nicolson...I have found out that he apparently died in nova scotia in 1872. however I still cant find any certificates for him or Mary.
Hope all is well with you. x
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Hi , I am looking for Angus Mclure and Annabella Mckenzie who may have left from Culreagh is that on Skye? ,In 1793 and settled in Pei Canada
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I own a wooden seaman's chest with a plaque which might be of interest... thought I would share it.
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Wow, lucky you! I wish I owned a piece of history like that. Thanks for posting the photo.
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I have an Alexander McLure married to Catherine McDonald Mar 1858 , I am told they left Isle of Skye 20 Jul 1858 and settled on Prince Edward Island, Canada
Rod
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Hi
my family are from Sleat and I have traced back from my grandfather Neil Nicolson.
my Rd great grandfather was Lachlan Nicolson(1805) who married Mary Maclure (1813-1904).
Mary's parents were Neil Maclure and Margaret Macgillvary. Neils father was Roderick Maclure 1770 and his father was Farquar Maclure 1747 who married Christina McPherson.
Would love to here from anyone with similar info. xxx
jackie
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Hi Debbie,
My great great grandmother was Margaret McClure, born in Sleat, Skye in approximately 1853.
In the 1901 census, she is listed as living in Dunoon with her husband Colin Hart and their children: Catherine, Duncan, and Donald. Additionally, my grandfather, Donald McClure, was listed as living with them, with his age being 4 years old. It is unclear if he was born in Skye or Dunoon.
I would like to trace my McClure family on Skye and I'm hoping you may have something on my McClure relatives.
Thanks so much,
Lorna
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Rdmclure ... Culreagh would be Kylerhea, Glenelg. A lot of McLure history in Glenelg, possibly a separate family from the McClures of Skye though.
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Hi, I’m a descendant from malcom maclure, he would be my 5th great grandad
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Hello Debbie,
I found this thread and joined RootsChat yesterday. This is a shot in the dark, but I am trying to find information on an Angus McDonald (b. abt 1760) and family. I have searched ScotlandsPeople, FindMyPast, MyHeritage, Ancestry, etc., but there is nothing on any member of this family. I read somewhere that the Sleat records prior to 1815 were destroyed which might explain the why. They may have been from Argyllshire, but after doing significant historical digging I think they likely came from Isleornsay, Skye before emigrating to Upper Canada in 1804. In any case, as you indicated you may have some records on people of the area, and perhaps McDonalds, I thought I would give it a try. If this is a no go then I’ll start a new thread.
Angus’ wife is Nancy McLaughlin(b.1764) and sons: Allan(1786), John(1788), Donald(1789), Archibald(1791), Hector(1800), and Neil(1802). I descend from Neil.
Many Thanks,
Adam on V.I.
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I should have noted in my previous post that there are some scanty documents and references for Angus McDonald and family in the years after arriving in Upper Canada. Of course, once census are being collected there is a clearer trail. They can also be found in local histories, etc. Angus McDonald, however, died within a year of arriving, therefore tracking place of origin has been problematic as other than a few minor references, there is little to go on.
Adam
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I have searched ScotlandsPeople, FindMyPast, MyHeritage, Ancestry, etc.,
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=714261.0
According to the Detailed List of the Old Parochial Registers https://www.nrscotland.gov.uk/files//research/list-of-oprs/detailed-list-of-old-parochial-registers-of-scotland.pdf there are no surviving records before 1800 from any of the Inverness-shire island parishes.
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Forfarian, thanks for that. I found that same reference a few days ago, so that confirms what I thought I found...or didn't find. Much of what I've found so far was pieced together initially through local histories on the Canadian side, the Selkirk Papers, and confirmed by Upper Canada land records, land surveys, maps, and census when they began decades later.
I've scanned though, not quite every page, Selkirk's and his managers' various letters, journals, etc. for information. Found quite a bit of relevant history, but only three references as to possible origins for the Angus McDonald and family. Better than nothing I suppose. I'm waiting on some documents from Library and Archives Canada, but they will likely only confirm what I already have. Many historians have tracked over the same terrain so I may just be repeating their work. It might be too much to hope for a record of Selkirk's recruiters detailing where they went when recruiting for these settlers. I'll start a post on this as it might elicit some resources I haven't found or considered yet.
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Wish I could have brought better news.
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Hi Adam,
I have checked through all my records and unfortunately I don't have anything on your Angus McDonald and family.
The parish registers are not available for the time period. Sleat registers start in 1813, which is a big brick wall to researching prior to that.
The only way I have been able to go further back is by getting death certificates of people born before 1813 and who died after the start of civil registration in 1855. This at least provides parents names from the death certificate. Not much... but better than nothing.
But your family is in Canada by that point!
Have you contacted the Sleat local history society? They may have some tips.
The only other idea I have is investigating the DNA matches who have McDonalds on Skye to see if you can put together any family relationships that way? A long shot, but sometimes sideways research pays off.
Deb
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Debbie,
Thanks for checking. I have several feelers out with people on GED Match and have joined a few of their ancestor projects. We’ll see what comes of that. I will have to make a concerted effort to better understand DNA and the various methods of refining results.
I haven’t yet contacted the Sleat history society but have checked out their website. Will do that next.