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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: 1485 Latin will Lady Dacre
« on: Sunday 01 October 23 19:39 BST (UK) »
Apologies, missed that.
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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: 1485 Latin will Lady Dacre
« on: Saturday 30 September 23 16:21 BST (UK) »
sepelio sepelire means to bury (it's irregular) and that looks like a gerund.
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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: tracing your roots through DNA
« on: Thursday 14 September 23 14:04 BST (UK) »
Y-DNA is something of a lottery, but when it has results they are good. I am involved in three projects. My brother has no matches nearer than 2,000 years ago. He is I-M253. I have bought further SNPs to no avail.
I tested my husband (I-M223) because he has a common name and I was stuck in Derbyshire. His results (nobody of the same surname) took me back firmly to North Staffordshire. More recently his closest matches are a family called Boyd, who emigrated from Scotland or Northern Ireland to America in the early to mid 1700s, yet FTDNA gives a relationship within a couple of hundred years, not pre surname as I originally assumed. So how did the Boyds come to be related to at least two different surnames in North Staffordshire? We are still working on it.
My mother's family, Broadley from Lancashire, my cousin and I had researched back to the 1650s, still in Lancashire. The Y-DNA took us back to Halifax in Yorkshire. Our branch is now back to 1490 but we know from the Y-DNA that the originator of the Broadley family was John Broadley, Constable of Ovenden in 1362, many of whose descendants, especially in America, are now called Bradley. There is much more to learn, but it has been a great success, thanks to Andrew Booth, who started the Y-DNA project. (R1B L21, etc)
I tested my husband (I-M223) because he has a common name and I was stuck in Derbyshire. His results (nobody of the same surname) took me back firmly to North Staffordshire. More recently his closest matches are a family called Boyd, who emigrated from Scotland or Northern Ireland to America in the early to mid 1700s, yet FTDNA gives a relationship within a couple of hundred years, not pre surname as I originally assumed. So how did the Boyds come to be related to at least two different surnames in North Staffordshire? We are still working on it.
My mother's family, Broadley from Lancashire, my cousin and I had researched back to the 1650s, still in Lancashire. The Y-DNA took us back to Halifax in Yorkshire. Our branch is now back to 1490 but we know from the Y-DNA that the originator of the Broadley family was John Broadley, Constable of Ovenden in 1362, many of whose descendants, especially in America, are now called Bradley. There is much more to learn, but it has been a great success, thanks to Andrew Booth, who started the Y-DNA project. (R1B L21, etc)
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Lancashire / Re: Lancaster Lunatic Asylum
« on: Saturday 19 August 23 19:13 BST (UK) »
One of my Broadley relatives from Clayton le Moors died there in 1826 and I found this in Baines's Lancashire vol 2 p. 17 The Asylum was opened in 1816 and the description is glowing. Hot and cold baths, stoves for warmth, galleries for walking if the weather is bad, but the crowning point "in the medical practice..every patient is treated as the peculiarity of his or her own case may require".
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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Will of Thomas Stones 1602 Alstonefield, Staffs
« on: Wednesday 09 August 23 19:39 BST (UK) »
unto my other two sonnes William and Lawrence eather of them tenne pounds after this maner followinge, that is to say, payinge unto my sonne Lawrence tenne pounds at the feast of S. John Baptist next after my decease and unto my sonne William tenne pounds at the feast of S. Michaell next after my decease ..
No husband seems to be mentioned for Joane and the amount looks like a dowry.
No husband seems to be mentioned for Joane and the amount looks like a dowry.
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Yorkshire (West Riding) / Re: Walker family of Gawthorpe Hall
« on: Friday 21 July 23 21:06 BST (UK) »
Michael Broadley of Bingley made a will 29 April 1613 in which he left Anthonie Walker of Gawthorp £5, George Walker of Bingley £3 6s 8d and £40 to the school at Bingley to be disposed of at the discretion of Nicholas Walker and Thomas Howgill schoolmaster. Nicholas Walker and Thomas Howgill were executors of the will. Probate by Nicholas Walker 14 May.
Some time after this there was a written complaint by Daniel Broadley (Michael's brother) and others that the school had not received any money. It states that Walker is now dead and he and Howgill have shared the money. (This appears in Halifax parish register)
There followed a codicil. The date in the text is 30 April 1618 but the margin clearly says 1613. It states that Michael Broadley, the day after making his will, said that the money for the school was really for Thomas Howgill and would leave with him. All the witnesses to this codicil are named Walker; George Walker, Robert Walker, Alice Walker and Mary Walker. Probate was granted for this codicil 20 April 1621. Nicholas Walker was said to be dead and a William Bradley of Silsden was the administrator. From other documents we have, this William Bradley was a liar and worse. There appears to be no relationship between this William Bradley, and Michael and Daniel Broadley.
Daniel Broadley was the father of William "Bradley", Daniel Broadley and younger children by his second wife, all of whom were early emigrants to America, although some of the family remained behind.
If you would like a transcription of the will, let me know.
Some time after this there was a written complaint by Daniel Broadley (Michael's brother) and others that the school had not received any money. It states that Walker is now dead and he and Howgill have shared the money. (This appears in Halifax parish register)
There followed a codicil. The date in the text is 30 April 1618 but the margin clearly says 1613. It states that Michael Broadley, the day after making his will, said that the money for the school was really for Thomas Howgill and would leave with him. All the witnesses to this codicil are named Walker; George Walker, Robert Walker, Alice Walker and Mary Walker. Probate was granted for this codicil 20 April 1621. Nicholas Walker was said to be dead and a William Bradley of Silsden was the administrator. From other documents we have, this William Bradley was a liar and worse. There appears to be no relationship between this William Bradley, and Michael and Daniel Broadley.
Daniel Broadley was the father of William "Bradley", Daniel Broadley and younger children by his second wife, all of whom were early emigrants to America, although some of the family remained behind.
If you would like a transcription of the will, let me know.
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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: 1605 Latin/English burial transcription
« on: Wednesday 21 June 23 21:14 BST (UK) »
George Redmonds Christian names in local and family history pages 47, 72, 73. The name was Mauger, commonly spelled as Major and i for j was very common then. "Mauger was brought by the Normans and used in the Vavasour family who had a large estate in Lower Wharfedale". The name spread to other families because the earlier you go the more important godparents were. I suggest you read page 73 in particular. I can't write it all here.
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The Common Room / Re: How can people trace British Genealogy futher than 1500s?
« on: Monday 19 June 23 21:03 BST (UK) »
I have no gateway ancestor, just ordinary people. For a long time we couldn't be certain of the parentage of Abraham Broadley who had children in Darwen, Lancs from 1654, until a cousin started a Y-DNA group. It has been hard work but our direct branch is now back to an unknown Broadley born about 1490, father of two brothers who married mid-fifteen hundreds. From the Y-DNA we know that we are descended from John Brodelegh who was Constable of Ovenden in 1362 when he built Broadley Hall. We have gathered every possible early Broadley reference, bought wills and disputes and read many books. Thanks for the help from aalt, as well. And if anyone has any further suggestions for ordinary people in the 15th century, I'm all ears.
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Yorkshire (West Riding) Lookup Requests / Re: Hipperholme 15th century
« on: Saturday 18 March 23 18:43 GMT (UK) »
Thank you very much, arthurk. Yes the 1379 reference is the second to the family which exists. Henry was John's older son and John was John's younger son. Henry's family lived in Ovenden and then Halifax itself, while his brother John moved to Hipperholme. For some time after all the references are to John Brodelegh of Hipperholme or John Brodeleghe the younger, who was Henry's son. It is easy to distinguish them. In 1433 John Brodelegh inherited from his father, John of Hipperholme and died himself in 1456.
It seems our direct ancestors were younger sons of younger sons and don't appear in the Manor Court Rolls or very seldom.
It seems our direct ancestors were younger sons of younger sons and don't appear in the Manor Court Rolls or very seldom.