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In addition to family history, I am interested in merchants' tokens through the ages. One recent batch I bought included a brown fibre disc, about 2.5 cm wide, with the text "S WESTERMAN 6 CLOUGH STREET MORLEY" embossed on it.

I've done a quick lookup in the usual places and found a Sam Westerman living at that address in the 1939 register. He seems to have been born 14.9.1889 in Goole registration district and died 21.8.1951 at 6 Clough Street.

The disc has a hole in it so I presume it was intended to be attached to something. My guess is that it's either from a keyring or it's a tool check if Sam had to provide his own equipment/clothing/etc. at work (he worked in the cloth industry).

I have no particular interest in keeping this object, but it would be great to reunite it with Sam's descendants or relatives. I've checked on Ancestry for family trees that appear to have Sam as a close relative of the tree owner and have drawn a blank, so I thought I'd ask here.

If there's anyone out there for whom Sam Westerman is an important figure, drop me a PM and I will post it.

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Lincolnshire / Re: Saltenstall or Saltonstall in Alford, Lincs
« on: Wednesday 01 February 17 20:27 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks for the help, both.

I'm slightly confused by the Lincs to the Past site, as if I search for Saltonstall across the whole site I get two marriage register hits in Alford, but going through the first (1754-67) page by page doesn't yield any Saltonstalls. The second is rather too late for my current purposes and is much longer, and I haven't had time to go through it yet!

As to the marriage licence, yes - I'd seen that transcript on FindMyPast but it doesn't add anything new unfortunately - in particular the bride's father is missing.

It is entirely possible that Elizabeth was born somewhere other than Alford, but in that case I have no pointers whatsoever as to where. The Saltonstall "hotspots" appear to be near Halifax and in Boston, Mass. None of my East Anglian/Fenland ancestors have any connections to either as far as I know.

One other thing - ages ago I was in touch with Queen Elizabeth's Grammar School in Alford because I had read somewhere a suggestion that Elizabeth was the daughter of a schoolmaster. QEGS confirmed that there was indeed a headmaster at the school called Thomas Saltonstall in the 18th century but didn't have any more precise information. This does at least place some Saltonstalls in Alford, but hasn't got me so much further.

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Lincolnshire / Saltenstall or Saltonstall in Alford, Lincs
« on: Tuesday 31 January 17 21:10 GMT (UK)  »
I am struggling to find any information about the parents of my 5g grandmother, Elizabeth Saltenstall. She was born during the 1750s in Alford, Lincs. Her age at death in 1839 was given as 84, making her born c1755, but I have seen transcripts (not scans) of records claiming 1758 instead.

She married 30.4.1782 Richard Bunbury Dawbarn of Wisbech, and was known as a writer of religious pamphlets (she even has her own Wikipedia page). The first reference on that page is to a thesis which includes the following:

Quote from: W.F. Yeo, in "William Dawbarn: A Victorian Life"
Oscar Dawbarn (1882-1945), a great-great grandson of Richard Bunbury and a Dawbarn family historian, wrote that Elizabeth was ‘the only surviving member of the Family who were descended from Samuel Saltonstall, the elder brother of the famous Lord Mayor of London (Lord Mayor 1597/98)’

I have, however, found nothing to substantiate that, nor indeed anything else concrete about her birth or parentage. I note the marriage of a Thomas Saltonstall of Orby and Mary Veal otp at Well, just outside Alford, on 31.3.1752, which could (or not) be her parents.

Does anyone know, for example, where there are more parish records available for Alford than have so far been digitised on the obvious sites?

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Hi Genemum,

It's ages since I've been on here... But yes, I think I probably can help. I have dates of birth and death for four of the five children of Cordelia and Henry (no death date for the youngest - but more info has become available since I last looked at this part of my tree). Two of them that I know of had children themselves.

In summary the kids are:

Lucy Ellison Golding 1854-1930, married Alfred Clay Abraham and had 5 children
Emily Golding 1856-1868
Harriet Randles Golding 1858-1936 died unmarried
Alice Hurry Golding 1860-1937 married Charles Edward Potts Antram and had one child, Herbert, who was killed in action in WW1
Herbert Richard Golding b1864 - the last record I have is in 1881, but I feel there must be more out there. Will have a dig and add anything I find.

I will send you a personal message with my email address. If you reply with yours I can send you the info that I've got.

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Ross & Cromarty / Re: Isobella Warren Gordon
« on: Sunday 02 November 14 15:41 GMT (UK)  »
As I mentioned before, I couldn't find anywhere called Rapella. I had wondered whether this was a mishearing or misremembering on the part of my dad's cousin (who as far as I know doesn't speak Italian) for Rapallo, which definitely exists, a few tens of km to the east of Genoa.

SWH1's precise address clinches it: There is a Via Ponte Anibale in Rapallo - see here on Google Maps.

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Ross & Cromarty / Re: Isobella Warren Gordon
« on: Saturday 01 November 14 10:32 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks to conner395 for drawing my attention to this thread...

Someone a few posts up mentioned the war grave of J.A.G. Cameron, along with his parents Margaret and Alexander. M & A are my great-grandparents and I can confirm that Isabella and Margaret are sisters.

I don't have any definitive evidence for Isabella's whereabouts in the UK after the 1911 census, but Margaret lived at 78 Grange Loan, Edinburgh for a long time. Alexander died there in 1920 in his 50s and as far as I know they were there from their return from their last international posting. This may have been in 1916; I have Alexander's passport from that year showing his progress from Cape Town, zigzagging up the Atlantic to avoid the U boats. In any case, both Alexander and Margaret died at 78 GL, she in 1954.

This is speculation, but it could be that they rented the property from Isabella, who had no immediate use for it while in Italy.

As to Isabella, the information I have on her after 1911 comes from my dad's cousin, another grandchild of Alexander and Margaret. After serving as a nurse in WW1 she ran a pensione in Genoa until being interned as an enemy alien in 1940. After WW2 she again ran, or at least lived in, a pensione, but I'm not sure where. The place name my dad's cousin gave is Rapella, but I can't find anywhere convincing with this name. It may have been the name of the pensione itself, long since disappeared.

I don't have any record of her death and presume she died in Italy.

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Ireland / Re: Henrietta Masaroon
« on: Thursday 02 February 12 06:39 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Castlemcauliffe

Thanks for that -- very useful.

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Ireland / Re: Henrietta Masaroon
« on: Wednesday 01 February 12 13:32 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Lainie

You need to make one more post to be able to send/receive private messages. When you've done this, you can PM me your email address and I'll send what I've got.

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Lancashire / Re: William Dawbarn 1820-1907, Liverpool
« on: Sunday 23 October 11 17:03 BST (UK)  »
Thanks for the tip about the 1841 census. I imagine Ancestry's transcription, or the original enumerator's interpretation, were sufficiently far off the mark for him not to be found by name alone. I'll do an address search.

I had no idea John had been in America, never mind that he changed his will while there. Thanks for the info!

I've found several Dawbarns who are active on the internet in one way or another who are related to your side, including a doctor specialising in Alzheimers disease (Dr David Dawbarn) and a musician (Simon, aka Spike, Dawbarn).

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