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The Common Room / Re: 1939 register queries
« on: Yesterday at 10:10 »I have 2 questions about the attached clip.
Hi... I had a similar issue a few years back.
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=823241.0
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Hi... I had a similar issue a few years back.
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=823241.0
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Armed Forces / Re: The Royal Chelsea Hospital and pensions:
« on: Saturday 23 April 22 15:56 BST (UK) »3
Armed Forces / Re: The Royal Chelsea Hospital and pensions:
« on: Saturday 23 April 22 15:48 BST (UK) »
This is Sgt. Fraser... Matthew Clay was Richard's friend.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dqbh4tqXSM
Quite a few errors, but nonetheless amusing.
The Light Company was divided into two platoons. Richard was in the assault platoon, while Matthew was in the support platoon. Those who didn't die in the assault platoon, were nearly all Courts-Martialled. (scapegoats for a Lieutenant Colonel)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dqbh4tqXSM
Quite a few errors, but nonetheless amusing.
The Light Company was divided into two platoons. Richard was in the assault platoon, while Matthew was in the support platoon. Those who didn't die in the assault platoon, were nearly all Courts-Martialled. (scapegoats for a Lieutenant Colonel)
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Armed Forces / Re: The Royal Chelsea Hospital and pensions:
« on: Saturday 23 April 22 15:08 BST (UK) »Previously I noted 3 children of Richard & Jane, but I now think that there was a 4th child, Peter,
Any thoughts?
UKgirl…, just a quick ‘FYI.’
Richard was in the Light Company of the ‘Scots Guards.’ (3rd regiment of Foot Guards) His Sergeant was Ralph Fraser and was one of the most decorated soldiers in the British Army, then moved on to become one of Queen Victoria’s Almsman at Westminster Abbey. Twice wounded, and the first wound in the leg was in Egypt.
Of course, Faith was born well after Richard’s demob. However, as a weaver, could Ralph’s ‘lamp swinging’ over a cup of gin have pushed his commercial activities to the souks near the pyramids ? Lol…, scraping the barrel a bit there. Nonetheless, I’ll have a browse through the BNA. It would be nice to find him there.
During the Battle of Waterloo, I am certain that he was a walking-wounded. My Regiment is a character-building machine, and I wouldn’t be at all surprised if he became an entrepreneur. Lol…, at nearly 75, I still have a VAT number.
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Armed Forces / Re: The Royal Chelsea Hospital and pensions:
« on: Saturday 23 April 22 14:27 BST (UK) »Previously I noted 3 children of Richard & Jane, but I now think that there was a 4th child, Peter, named after Richard’s father? There’s a bit of a gap, and the Abode has changed from Atherton to Leigh.
Any thoughts?
Thank you UKgirl... I'll need an hour or two to get my head around it. Thanks for all that work. I'll get back to you..., Iain.
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Armed Forces / Re: The Royal Chelsea Hospital and pensions:
« on: Saturday 23 April 22 13:28 BST (UK) »
Good afternoon UKgirl…, sorry for my absence.
Lol…, pleased my thread served for something other than a simple Court-Martial and a Waterloo Medal.
I must admit that I’m well out of my depth here. You, Rosie, Shaun and others obviously see a problem…, but if I had opened that ‘Select Deaths and Burials,’ I would have jumped to the conclusion that Guardsman Richard Hampson had a father called Richard…, and he died (“abt”) just before son Richard was born. Mother Faith would then have been alone and accepted the advances of Peter Spenser.
Doubly confusing since you’ve found errors.
In the draft reply I made yesterday (which I’ve since binned) and concerning Ancestry’s ‘hint’ concerning Faith’s death, it was not 8 Apr 1796…, but 30 Nov 1794. (father Edward, archive roll 970 – Burial place - Denton, St. Lawrence, Parish Church)
…, Iain.
Lol…, pleased my thread served for something other than a simple Court-Martial and a Waterloo Medal.
I must admit that I’m well out of my depth here. You, Rosie, Shaun and others obviously see a problem…, but if I had opened that ‘Select Deaths and Burials,’ I would have jumped to the conclusion that Guardsman Richard Hampson had a father called Richard…, and he died (“abt”) just before son Richard was born. Mother Faith would then have been alone and accepted the advances of Peter Spenser.
Doubly confusing since you’ve found errors.
In the draft reply I made yesterday (which I’ve since binned) and concerning Ancestry’s ‘hint’ concerning Faith’s death, it was not 8 Apr 1796…, but 30 Nov 1794. (father Edward, archive roll 970 – Burial place - Denton, St. Lawrence, Parish Church)
…, Iain.
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Armed Forces / Re: The Royal Chelsea Hospital and pensions:
« on: Wednesday 20 April 22 18:33 BST (UK) »
Ooooof..., as they say in French. You must work for Scotland yard.
Losing focus with my manuscript..., but it's worth it.
I'm absent on-and-off for the next couple of days, however, I'll certainly get back to you very soon.
Lovely weather here in Belgium. Kind Regards..., Iain.
Losing focus with my manuscript..., but it's worth it.
I'm absent on-and-off for the next couple of days, however, I'll certainly get back to you very soon.
Lovely weather here in Belgium. Kind Regards..., Iain.
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Armed Forces / Re: The Royal Chelsea Hospital and pensions:
« on: Wednesday 20 April 22 14:38 BST (UK) »Hello again,
You began this thread by looking for the death of Richard Hampson.
Did you find it? >>>>> ..., no, not yet.
Even if your Richard Hampson is not included in this list, you may find the names of other soldiers that you are researching? >>>>> ...., I'm going to have fun with this.
UKgirl
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Armed Forces / Re: The Royal Chelsea Hospital and pensions:
« on: Wednesday 20 April 22 14:29 BST (UK) »
Good afternoon UKgirl. Amazing…, you’d make a superb battlefield detective. I’m only able to do it because I have my feet on the ground. (I live nearby)
Lol…, Agatha Christy could have had a best seller with this.
I think your reasoning concerning Richard is more than logical. Ancestry provides a hint for ‘a’ Faith Hampson’s death one year later…, but I prefer to wait.
In the meantime, when Richard got to an age where he was able to think clearly for himself, he’d have been told about his ‘fugitive’ father, and that would have cemented the love for his mother…, Faith-Faith-Faith-Faith.
I’m starting to feel sorry for the poor fellow…, you cannot imagine the luck he had to allow him his Waterloo Medal, and it’s a regimental comfort to know he must have had the same professionalism as the Corporal who saved his life. (the one who received 300 lashes) Twenty-one years later, his CO ‘apologized.’
There is a Jane Tonge marriage on 21 Oct 1821. If this is her, then she was expecting son John for the past 8-months…, just after Richard’s release from Chelsea.
I also found a Jane ‘Hampson’ as a shopkeeper, and she’s next to a Richard Hampson who is a cotton merchant, but different addresses. Coincidence has it that they have another two Hampsons nearby as a dyer and weaver.
I’ve put up a tree for him on Ancestry, but there are obviously mistakes.
https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/182403820/person/182372092815/facts
There are descendants (lol - Shaun) out there, but so far, they’re playing hide and seek.
Thank you UKgirl.
PS Just noticed a new post..., will have a look ASP.
Lol…, Agatha Christy could have had a best seller with this.
I think your reasoning concerning Richard is more than logical. Ancestry provides a hint for ‘a’ Faith Hampson’s death one year later…, but I prefer to wait.
In the meantime, when Richard got to an age where he was able to think clearly for himself, he’d have been told about his ‘fugitive’ father, and that would have cemented the love for his mother…, Faith-Faith-Faith-Faith.
I’m starting to feel sorry for the poor fellow…, you cannot imagine the luck he had to allow him his Waterloo Medal, and it’s a regimental comfort to know he must have had the same professionalism as the Corporal who saved his life. (the one who received 300 lashes) Twenty-one years later, his CO ‘apologized.’
There is a Jane Tonge marriage on 21 Oct 1821. If this is her, then she was expecting son John for the past 8-months…, just after Richard’s release from Chelsea.
I also found a Jane ‘Hampson’ as a shopkeeper, and she’s next to a Richard Hampson who is a cotton merchant, but different addresses. Coincidence has it that they have another two Hampsons nearby as a dyer and weaver.
I’ve put up a tree for him on Ancestry, but there are obviously mistakes.
https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/182403820/person/182372092815/facts
There are descendants (lol - Shaun) out there, but so far, they’re playing hide and seek.
Thank you UKgirl.
PS Just noticed a new post..., will have a look ASP.