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Shropshire Lookup Requests / Re: Marriage of Sarah Woollant and Thomas Groom Pace, Welshampton, 11 March 1828
« on: Tuesday 31 December 19 10:45 GMT (UK)  »
PS  I hadn't appreciated that William was christened as Groom Dod, rather than just Groom. I have done a bit of googling to see if canal people of the time were usually so fast and loose with their surnames, but nothing enlightening so far!

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Shropshire Lookup Requests / Re: Marriage of Sarah Woollant and Thomas Groom Pace, Welshampton, 11 March 1828
« on: Tuesday 31 December 19 10:38 GMT (UK)  »
Hi ciderdrinker.  Thank you for the extra checking and information.  I can't claim credit for piecing this together - others have been there before me re Groom/Dod/Keay.  But the connection to Woollam has finally given me enough certainty to say that my gggrandfather was christened Groom rather than K(e)ay.  Hoorah!

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Shropshire Lookup Requests / Re: Marriage of Sarah Woollant and Thomas Groom Pace, Welshampton, 11 March 1828
« on: Monday 30 December 19 10:10 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Claire, Thank you so much for this.  It fills in a bit of the confusing puzzle of the Groom/Dod/Keay family.  So Pace is mistranscribed as Dod?   Is the record saying that the groom was Dod, or that it was Thomas Groom Dod?

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Shropshire Lookup Requests / Marriage of Sarah Woollant and Thomas Groom Pace, Welshampton, 11 March 1828
« on: Sunday 29 December 19 23:56 GMT (UK)  »
I am hoping someone could help me with the details of this marriage - witness names, and in particular whether Woollant might actually be Woollam?  This relates to research I am doing on my gggrandfather William Kay/Keay, who was lodging with the Woollam family in Welshampton in the 1841 census at the age of 9.  The above details come from familysearch.  Many thanks for any help you can give.

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Europe / Re: Searching for a burial at St. Lambertus in Helden The Netherlands June 1919.
« on: Thursday 24 January 19 21:59 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Frank, Here is a link to the Helden cemetery: https://www.online-begraafplaatsen.nl/zerken.asp?command=showpers&bgp=1375&char=K
Unfortunately, I can't see Elisabeth listed, but I thought you might find the website helpful to do some further research. I have also checked newspaper reports (Delpher Kranten), but again have found no references to her death or funeral.  Searches on other family trees were similarly fruitless! I see that you have posted on wiewaswie, so hope you have better luck from there!

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United States of America / Re: Fred(erick) Kay - deserted Campania in New York 1902
« on: Sunday 08 July 18 16:30 BST (UK)  »
Thank you JoRose.  Yes this will be him - his father appears in the census as Key, Hay, Kaye etc, which does not help the search!  So he might appear in US/Canada census with a 1871 yob (just) more likely 1872, as Kay or Key.  He "only"deserted from a merchant ship, not the army, so I am not sure he would have felt the need to change his name.  Or was there a similar stigma attached?  If the USA census does not help, could you possibly point me in the right direction for a Canada search?  Many thanks.

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United States of America / Re: Fred(erick) Kay - deserted Campania in New York 1902
« on: Friday 06 July 18 23:14 BST (UK)  »
Thank you for replying.  My Frederick has no recorded middle name, and his baptism record does not give his date of birth.   He does not feature on the 1871 census and the family seems to have been reasonably prompt with baptisms, so first quarter of 1872 would be a reasonable assumption.   Allthough there are quite a few Frederick Kay(e)s knocking about, I have not found another one in Liverpool dob 1872.  But perhaps that doesn't help for US records if they simply list England - sorry I am a novice on US data.  I found the Campania reference on Ancestry - shown in attachment.  I hope I am not breaching any rules!  If so, no doubt, someone will helpfully correct me.


Moderator:  Link to crew list - http://www.rootschat.com/links/01mbq/  Attachment removed.

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United States of America / Fred(erick) Kay - deserted Campania in New York 1902
« on: Friday 06 July 18 16:21 BST (UK)  »
I would appreciate any tips on tracking down Frederick Kay, born 1872 in Liverpool.  Son of William Kay and Sarah (nee Hill), he was baptised on 28 April 1872 (no middle name). He features in the 1881 Census at Langdale Street, and in 1891 in Roderick Street, Liverpool, working as a carter.   I thought he was totally lost, since he does not seem to feature again on UK records.  But I may now have found him on a crew list, recorded as deserting the Campania in New York in 1902. I would welcome suggestions on how to take this forward.  I have read separately that a number of Liverpool crew desertions were linked to the Klondike gold rush, but have no family gossip to back this up, or give other clues.  Thank you.

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Lancashire / Re: George, a joiner in Oldham ....
« on: Thursday 11 May 17 09:56 BST (UK)  »
Thank you Heywood for the link.  I shall have a go.

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