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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Who was Charlie the Hermit Sunnyside, Cullen?
« on: Tuesday 16 April 24 20:38 BST (UK)  »
Yes, the Marioni's were italian not French.
'..charged with being an alien in 1933'  --  Were people being charged with being aliens at that time ?

The Pembrokeshire connection. Pembrokeshire was a very 'English' county - if indeed he was from Pembrokeshire it wouldn't be odd for him to be unable to speak Welsh.

ref - The article in the Aberdeen paper dated 1974 where it's reportd Charlei didn't know about having to Register.  can it be taken from that that Charlie was alive in 1974.
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may be an idea to e-mail Cullen Library <cullenlibrary@moray.gov.uk> asking if there's a local Family History Society or local Historical Society or local Historian who could help.    There may be some Local History booklets held at the Library.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Who was Charlie the Hermit Sunnyside, Cullen?
« on: Monday 15 April 24 23:52 BST (UK)  »
Kay is right the reference to Cheerful Charlie was found on Find my Past.
Looking at earlier messsages - if Charlie was an 'old man' in 1933 it would suggest he was born well before 1900 so the information about the Marioni family I've posted in an earlier message is not about him.
 However our man was probably related to them.
I looked in the on-line phone book (BT) and there's one Marioni listed in Fraseburgh.  Bit of a long shot but if this person was contated maybe they could help or know of someone in the family who has done a family history.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Who was Charlie the Hermit Sunnyside, Cullen?
« on: Sunday 14 April 24 21:56 BST (UK)  »
Looked on Find my Past and found following :-

Charles 'Cheerful Charlie' Marioni - Sailor and Hermit - Moray and Banff.   
This was on Scotlands People - no dates or age given.
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One Charles Marioni died in Aberdeen in 2003 age 77, mothers maiden Teroni. --  ref 300/29
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One Luigi Alessandro Marioni mmname Teroni was born 1908 in Fraserburgh  --  ref 195/265
One Luigi Marioni (no mothers maiden name given) was born 1929 in Fraserburgh  --  196/55
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One Luigi A. Marioni married Marian Marioni in 1950 in Fraserburgh.
One Luigi Marioni married Delina L. Barbieri  in 1940 in Montrose.

Got this information from Scotlands People. 

Possibly 'Charlie's' real name was Luigi ?? although dates don't tally exactly.

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The Common Room / Re: Wills
« on: Tuesday 02 April 24 21:08 BST (UK)  »
Wills are funny things!
Recall a solicitor coming to my home so my grandfather could make a will - an aunt was there to act as witness - when grandfather died in 1970 no sign of a will - officially he died intestate.
Some years after he died I contacted the firm of solicitors and they confirmed that he had made a will but they didn't have a copy !!

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The Lighter Side / Stillbirths.
« on: Monday 01 April 24 15:38 BST (UK)  »
Should we include babies who are stillborn in our Family Tree?     
15 years ago my niece's baby died 'in utero' two weeks before the due date and this baby is named and included in the Family Tree.

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The Lighter Side / Re: 'Put away?'
« on: Sunday 31 March 24 00:20 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: Erato on Saturday 30 March 24 22:56 GMT (UK)
Ashamed?  Why?  Do you think such people should be ignored, hidden, never spoken or written about?  Unfit to be mentioned on RootsChat?  They are members of our collective family tree and should be recognized as such.

Totally agree Erato.
We shouldn't be able to pick and choose who we include in our Family Trees.
During my time at the Hospital six patients died - each one was buried in the local cemetery in a communal grave reserved for this hospital.  No family member came to the funerals and there was no effort made to have them buried in their family plot.
 

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The Lighter Side / 'Put away?'
« on: Saturday 30 March 24 21:05 GMT (UK)  »
In the 1980's I had close links with a large hospital for patients (app. 100) who had a severe disability - both mental and physical. These patients came from all over England.
In the five years I was there I can recall only about four patients having occasional visits from relatives.
I wonder how many were 'put away' and abandoned by their relatives - how many had relatives that didn't even know they existed.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Firth family.
« on: Friday 23 February 24 17:07 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: ciderdrinker on Friday 23 February 24 15:35 GMT (UK)
Hi
By 1987 they had returned to New Zealand  at Titirangi
William Firth Westwood  3 Tanekaha Road a painter
Irene Florence Westwood same address.
They had been there since 1975.
It looks like they died 1988 and 1993.

She is buried at Waikumete Cemetery & Crematorium Glen Eden Auckland
www.findagrave.com/memorial/253579268/irene-florence-westwood


Thanks CD - mystery solved!

Believe William and his mother Florence returned to the UK but his father stayed in NZ.  So it looks as if William and his wife returned at somepoint to live with the father in NZ.

Loved wife of William Firth Westwood.

I can't see him.


In 1946 he appeared in the Nottingham Evening Post but I'm only getting the Index not the story.

Ciderdrinker

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Family History Beginners Board / Firth family.
« on: Friday 23 February 24 14:49 GMT (UK)  »
Florence Firth b.1879 in Barnsley Yorks married Albert H Westwood in S1/4 1919 in Barnsley and they went to New Zealand.
In 1920/21 in New Zealand their son William Firth Westwood (known as Peter) was born.

Florence Westwood died in Newton Abbott Devon in 1959.  Living with her was her son William Firth Westwood and his wife? Irene Florence Westwood.

Looking for the record of the marriage of William and Irene (William had returned to the U K with his mother in the late 1920's)
Don't believe thay had any children.
Also looking for the dates of death of William and Irene Westwood and their place of burial.
Thanks.
 

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