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Europe / Richard Cadman Etches
« on: Tuesday 10 November 20 19:37 GMT (UK)  »
I am researching the life of a very interesting character by the name of Richard Cadman Etches. He was an Englishman, probably born around 1753, who spent much of his later life working for the British Secret Service as a spy. I have discovered that in 1789 he went to Copenhagen where he achieved Danish nationality, the reason being that this would enable him to flit in and out of Revolutionary France with impunity. I would love to know whether any record of this exists in Denmark and/or how I would go about finding it. Any help would be most welcome.

Derbyshire / The Last Will and Testament of William Etches
« on: Thursday 10 September 20 15:36 BST (UK)  »
I have been trying unsuccessfully to locate the will of William Etches which was supposedly made on 13th May 1839.

He had connections with Shipston-on-Stour, Northampton but ended up dying in Ashbourne, aged 79, on the 16th August 1839. He was described as a maltster.

Can anybody help me please?

Family History Beginners Board / History of a House
« on: Thursday 03 September 20 14:29 BST (UK)  »
In the latter part of the 18th Century an ancestor of mine lived in a house just off Oxford Street The address was 19 Bryanston Street, Portman Square. I want to discover the history of the house and who lived there over the years. I suppose I should approcah HM Land Registry but if so I'm not sure what I should be askiing for. Can anyone help me please?

The Common Room / Re: John Etches - Princess Rose
« on: Saturday 01 August 20 10:26 BST (UK)  »

The Common Room / John Etches - Princess Rose
« on: Thursday 30 July 20 20:34 BST (UK)  »
I'm researching members of the Etches family who were entrepreneurs in the 18th Century. They sent ships to the Northwest Coast of America to trade in sea otter furs. In a family document I came across the following: " John Etches lost an arm and a leg during a violent Pacific storm when the mast of the Princess Rose fell on him. So he decided to return to England aboard the Prince of Wales".
 I would like to find some corroborating evidence before accepting this as true but have no idea where to start to look. The Princess Rose was a small ship of 65 tons which sailed from Deptford on 23rd September 1786. It sailed around Tierra del Fuego in January 1787 and encountered some violent storms there. This may be where the accident occurred. It then sailed up to Vancouver Island to trade. John Etches was the supercargo and he sailed back to London in January 1789. I'd be very pleased if anybody could direct me to where I might find any proof that the accident had indeed occurred.

London and Middlesex / Re: Where the Bombs Fell - Earlsfield Road, Wandsworth
« on: Friday 20 March 20 09:01 GMT (UK)  »
Does this website help?
  Yes, thanks Carol. There is an account on it which refers to the very incident that I'm interested in.

London and Middlesex / Where the Bombs Fell - Earlsfield Road, Wandsworth
« on: Thursday 19 March 20 22:36 GMT (UK)  »
I'm writing my family history and know that my late Mother was lucky to escape death in 1944 when a German bomb landed at the spot where Inman Road joins Earlsfield Road in Wandsworth. I believe that this would have been in late June or July but can anyone tell me the exact date please ? My Mother always told me that the bomb was a "Doodle Bug" - the name given to V1 Flying Bombs, but the very useful document produced by Wandsworth B.C. some years ago describes it a High Explosive.

Derbyshire / Re: William Etches
« on: Sunday 02 September 18 18:28 BST (UK)  »

The will is on Find my past under
Staffordshire, Dioceses Of Lichfield and Coventry Wills and Probate 1521-1860

In total there are 61 Etches wills, most of which are in Derbyshire.

You will see that for some Wills eg. William there are two entries, one is an index and the other contains the actual will.

I just searched Etches with no other information.



 Many thanks for this information Spendlove. I will investigate.

Derbyshire / Re: William Etches
« on: Friday 31 August 18 20:14 BST (UK)  »

William Etches of Ashbourne died 1795 wine merchant, in his will he does not mention a son “Richard Cadman Etches”.

Estate was divided between wife Elizabeth, children - John, Elizabeth and Sarah.

Feel sure RCE would have been mentioned if he was his son, even if it was the usual one shilling.

Have no knowledge of the book you mention, but the author could have been making assumptions.

Thanks for the information Spendlove. I have discovered a lot more information about Richard Cadman Etches since I first posted on here a few years ago and have even visited the Ashbourne Heritage Society. So I'm pretty convinced that he was the son of William Etches, the wine merchant, who died in Ashbourne on the 4th July 1795 mainly because when Richard set up the King George's Sound Company in 1785 one of the nine partners listed was "William Etches - Merchant of Ashbourne - Father". Perhaps father and son later fell out over business or perhaps William felt that Richard had become wealthy enough not to require any money from him and/or that the other children were more deserving. Would you be able to tell me how to obtain a copy of William's will? I'd be interested in reading it as Richard had a brother called William, probably born c. 1760 and he doesn't appear to be included in the will either. Many thanks.

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