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Quote from: mackers on Sunday 17 March 24 11:55 GMT (UK)

Quote from: eileenwilson on Saturday 16 March 24 21:51 GMT (UK)

Breagh townland sits in three parishes -- Drumcree, Tartaraghan and Seagoe.   

It lies also in two registration districts (for civil registrations) -- Armagh & Lurgan.

https://www.townlands.ie/search/?q=breagh

Thanks Eileen I was wondering as to why it was so hard to find some family details as to baptisms back to the grind stone for me. Regards Ed

I  would suggest that there are two possibly three separate townlands named Breagh in Co. Armagh, the one in Seogoe parish to the south east of Portadown, and the others a little further away to the northwest of Portadown on or near the A4 road, the first in Tartaraghan parish and the second just to the south in Drumcree parish.

Many thanks yes I've looked up three possible parishes but I have zeroed in on Drumcress in the main my problem being the fact that the first 3 to 4 months of Drumcree records seem to be blank more that likely due to the Famine around 1845, the year i am most interested in.

I am wondering about the location of the townland of Breagh? As it seems that if it was partly in Portadown as there was a few Catholic churches in it's area to choose from.

To explain in the excellent Irish Genealogy site it has both Armagh and Lurgan options, yet in a number of look ups refer to Drumcree in Portadown being in both Armagh and Lurgan. Which is a bit confusing as it also brings in Loughgall as well. Is this the case?

Hello, this is a bit of a strange query but after months of stubbornly trying to figure it out myself i’ve finally become desperate enough to try ask for help lol.

My grandfather is in his 70s and for years has been wanting to get his father’s army medals and a hat i believe he left him in his will. However to apply for this we need to know his Dad’s service number but my grandfather can’t remember much and doesn’t speak to his siblings. So to find this out i first have to apply for his Dad’s war records online which includes his service number. I already know the basic info (his full name, birth date, discharge date etc) except his army regiment.

It’s suspected he was in the Seaforth Highlanders but nobody can confirm it. His Dad was from East Lothian in Scotland and served in WWII from 1939 right up to the end of the war in 1945. All i know is the random facts my Grandfather can tell me about his Dad’s time in the army, that he served in Burma and India and a small island on the channels…Had Essex on one of his medals?…and was first put on an artillery unit.

(Strangely enough my Grandfather remembers HIS Grandfathers army regiment so theres a chance my Grandfathers Dad was in the same regiment as his Dad but i don’t know if it was common for a son to join the same regiment as his father in those days?)

I’m not sure if any of this is relevant or just useless but i’d be really grateful for any responses at all… anyones opinions or just guesses on army regiments that sounds fitting to any of those small pieces of info. I apologise if this all confusing and that it isn’t much to go off on

What was his full name?

So I think after all this time I have got a handle on this Hamill quest. To put it like this the Patrick Hamill who was a baker and he was married to Anne Carr he is actually the Teresa McCann nee Hamill's brother ergo that is why he had a daughter he called Teresa after his sister.

Then as it turned out his Father was a Patrick Hamill who was married to an Anne Devlin and who's other son was called Francis. That is why I was always wondering where my Grandfather Francis McCann got his first name. When i went through the many date lines this seemed to be the correct age for all concerned. Part of the reason for missing some of this was because the fact that some of their names were written in Latin and births were in a different parish in Armagh. So thanks to all who took the time to research this for me. As the answer came from a mixture of sources posted. Thanks again Ed

The priests were from St Peter’s Belfast (the Cathedral) not Drumcree.

Wikipedia has a list of past administrators (from the Cathedral website) and shows Fr William Blaney was the Vicar General there 1866-1873.
Fr Carroll baptised their son, Patrick in 1871 at St Peter’s.

It is interesting, I think, that the parents are not shown as ‘deceased’ and that their residence is Portadown - rather than anywhere else.

You are right why is the child Patrick not down as illegitimate???