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Wiltshire / Re: The Brown family, Westbury, Wilts
« on: Sunday 20 March 16 10:42 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for that! Will go through the posts and add mine today. Still finding my way round the site
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Wiltshire / The Brown family, Westbury, Wilts
« on: Sunday 20 March 16 10:28 GMT (UK) »
I am looking for anyone else researching a long standing Westbury family. Head of the family (so far) is James Brown, born 1853, married Bertha Carr. Born 1853. They had 8 daughters, one of whom is my grandmother Edith Stella Brown, born1883, and one son Walter J Brown, born 1882.
I can trace through census reports where some of the girls went into service but then not sure after 1911 what to do?
It seems this family stayed around Westbury for many many generations and I wondered if anyone else was researching a different branch? Thanks!
I can trace through census reports where some of the girls went into service but then not sure after 1911 what to do?
It seems this family stayed around Westbury for many many generations and I wondered if anyone else was researching a different branch? Thanks!
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Family History Beginners Board / Re: John Atlantic Stephenson
« on: Wednesday 31 December 14 16:04 GMT (UK) »
Hi Vicky1948!
I had no alerts of any new posts on Rootschat and have missed your message. Sorry it has taken so long!
Your Aunt, Mignon Arnst, Cathy's mum, was the original holder of John Stephenson's journal of his voyage from England to India in 1829. She very kindly photocopied it and I transcribed it. It is a fascinating account of a voyage and reflects his love of science and natural history. There is a fleeting reference to his wife giving birth to his son John Atlantic!
If you read all the previous posts you will see how the sorry has unfolded and how we have reached so many of the family descendants. As you are based in New Zealand it is probably easiest to contact your aunt direct as she has a copy of the transcript and a rough family tree so far. There are lots of descendants still to add now however!
Wishing everyone involved on the Stephenson journey a very Happy and Healthy New Year. Who knows this may be the year we find what happened to Leonard Quintus?!
Best wishes
Maggie
I had no alerts of any new posts on Rootschat and have missed your message. Sorry it has taken so long!
Your Aunt, Mignon Arnst, Cathy's mum, was the original holder of John Stephenson's journal of his voyage from England to India in 1829. She very kindly photocopied it and I transcribed it. It is a fascinating account of a voyage and reflects his love of science and natural history. There is a fleeting reference to his wife giving birth to his son John Atlantic!
If you read all the previous posts you will see how the sorry has unfolded and how we have reached so many of the family descendants. As you are based in New Zealand it is probably easiest to contact your aunt direct as she has a copy of the transcript and a rough family tree so far. There are lots of descendants still to add now however!
Wishing everyone involved on the Stephenson journey a very Happy and Healthy New Year. Who knows this may be the year we find what happened to Leonard Quintus?!
Best wishes
Maggie
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Family History Beginners Board / Re: John Atlantic Stephenson
« on: Wednesday 17 September 14 23:03 BST (UK) »
Thanks to both Ian, for so clearly summing up all the findings, and Jon, for the fascinating new find!
I have recently been in contact with Cathy and shared information in the form of personal letters between her Great grand mother and my mother's family. Because of this shared link I can only assume the journal was passed for safe keeping by John and Elizabeth to their daughter, our mutual ancestor, Catherine Mary Layton and at some stage and was passed on to her youngest daughter Edith. Edith had 4 children, the oldest being my grand mother and her sister was Cathy's grandmother! Mignon Leyton was her daughter( and Cathy's mum ) and has looked after the original journal so carefully.
I have re read many of the Rootschat entries and remembered that before I found Rootschat I asked the help of a professional genealogist. (She actually went on to find my father's link to the Burberry's of clothing fame! )
Right at the start of the Stephenson research she doubted that any link to George could be proved. However she did make three points based on 'genealogical logic' that I never followed up and I will summarise:
Firstly that John Stephenson would have been 39 when JAS was born mid Atlantic and that this could be construed as rather old if Elizabeth was his first wife. He could well have married before.
Secondly she said marriages usually took place in the brides home parish. Elizabeth was baptised at St Nicholas Non Conformist Church, Newcastle on Tyne. This meant that her family were probably non Anglican and therefore John and Elizabeth might not have married in an Anglican Church?
Thirdly, passports were not a legal requirement until 1914 but some were issued as early as 1794. Is it possible John applied for one? He seemed to have no qualms about making big location moves! Can we assume he was even born in this country? How can passports be traced, if at all?
I doubt any of these thoughts can be easily followed up but it may get us to look at the known information from a different angle!
Best wishes to all,
Maggie
I have recently been in contact with Cathy and shared information in the form of personal letters between her Great grand mother and my mother's family. Because of this shared link I can only assume the journal was passed for safe keeping by John and Elizabeth to their daughter, our mutual ancestor, Catherine Mary Layton and at some stage and was passed on to her youngest daughter Edith. Edith had 4 children, the oldest being my grand mother and her sister was Cathy's grandmother! Mignon Leyton was her daughter( and Cathy's mum ) and has looked after the original journal so carefully.
I have re read many of the Rootschat entries and remembered that before I found Rootschat I asked the help of a professional genealogist. (She actually went on to find my father's link to the Burberry's of clothing fame! )
Right at the start of the Stephenson research she doubted that any link to George could be proved. However she did make three points based on 'genealogical logic' that I never followed up and I will summarise:
Firstly that John Stephenson would have been 39 when JAS was born mid Atlantic and that this could be construed as rather old if Elizabeth was his first wife. He could well have married before.
Secondly she said marriages usually took place in the brides home parish. Elizabeth was baptised at St Nicholas Non Conformist Church, Newcastle on Tyne. This meant that her family were probably non Anglican and therefore John and Elizabeth might not have married in an Anglican Church?
Thirdly, passports were not a legal requirement until 1914 but some were issued as early as 1794. Is it possible John applied for one? He seemed to have no qualms about making big location moves! Can we assume he was even born in this country? How can passports be traced, if at all?
I doubt any of these thoughts can be easily followed up but it may get us to look at the known information from a different angle!
Best wishes to all,
Maggie
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Family History Beginners Board / Re: John Atlantic Stephenson
« on: Saturday 18 January 14 18:12 GMT (UK) »
Dear Bryan
Have a look at page 14, replies nos 137, 138, and 139.
Have a look at page 14, replies nos 137, 138, and 139.
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Family History Beginners Board / Re: John Atlantic Stephenson
« on: Tuesday 14 January 14 21:45 GMT (UK) »
What an interesting picture...could be someone we're looking for! I think, as Ian said, we are all very much interested in the Stephenson story still but need another link! Happy New Year to all, and let's keep on it!
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Family History Beginners Board / Re: John Atlantic Stephenson
« on: Wednesday 11 July 12 11:16 BST (UK) »
Hi there Ian and Brian, and everyone else on the Stephenson trail...
It would be great to actually find the gravestone if you are near Brian!
Have been trying Leonard Quintus Stephenson's name in various ancestry sites, but no more info has come to light.
After this long quiet spell with no new research or leads, it makes you realise how lucky we were to hook up with so many people on this thread originally and make such good progress doesn't it?
Best wishes,
Maggie
It would be great to actually find the gravestone if you are near Brian!
Have been trying Leonard Quintus Stephenson's name in various ancestry sites, but no more info has come to light.
After this long quiet spell with no new research or leads, it makes you realise how lucky we were to hook up with so many people on this thread originally and make such good progress doesn't it?
Best wishes,
Maggie
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Family History Beginners Board / Re: John Atlantic Stephenson
« on: Wednesday 22 February 12 21:11 GMT (UK) »
I echo Ian's thanks.
Amazing collection of watercolours although it's difficult to see all their beauty in the photo. How did you find the information re. The Brass Man?
He has a strong face, ( I love your description of him) and don't forget to look up the photograph of him telling a story,for sale with Artprints.
Any extra info on Stephensons gratefully received!
Regards,
Maggie
Amazing collection of watercolours although it's difficult to see all their beauty in the photo. How did you find the information re. The Brass Man?
He has a strong face, ( I love your description of him) and don't forget to look up the photograph of him telling a story,for sale with Artprints.
Any extra info on Stephensons gratefully received!
Regards,
Maggie
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Family History Beginners Board / Re: John Atlantic Stephenson
« on: Saturday 18 February 12 22:28 GMT (UK) »
Hi there, 26HC
It is a very pleasant surprise to meet yet another person connected to John Atlantic!
My great great grandmother is JAS's sister.
As you probably read in the original posts the thread began with a request from me about JAS as I had just read and transcribed his father's journal of a voyage to India. In this he mentions the birth of his son,mid Atlantic,in 1829. Another relation to JAS,linked by Rootschat, has a copy of the birth certificate from the Brig Argo, commented on by him. Is this the same as yours? It says Argo Brummell as his original name!
I have found some of his paintings in the Tyne and Wear museum and the same direct relation to him sent me a copy of another. It would be lovely to see copies of more of his work! Have you seen the photo of him ' Telling a Story' at Tynemouth 1880?
Do you know anything of 'the Stephenson connection'? We have all come to a grinding halt on this. The nearest we can get is that Henry Stephenson, JAS' brother, drove one of the first Steam trains on the Madras Railway and that there may be links with Robert Stephenson.
regards
Maggie 360
It is a very pleasant surprise to meet yet another person connected to John Atlantic!
My great great grandmother is JAS's sister.
As you probably read in the original posts the thread began with a request from me about JAS as I had just read and transcribed his father's journal of a voyage to India. In this he mentions the birth of his son,mid Atlantic,in 1829. Another relation to JAS,linked by Rootschat, has a copy of the birth certificate from the Brig Argo, commented on by him. Is this the same as yours? It says Argo Brummell as his original name!
I have found some of his paintings in the Tyne and Wear museum and the same direct relation to him sent me a copy of another. It would be lovely to see copies of more of his work! Have you seen the photo of him ' Telling a Story' at Tynemouth 1880?
Do you know anything of 'the Stephenson connection'? We have all come to a grinding halt on this. The nearest we can get is that Henry Stephenson, JAS' brother, drove one of the first Steam trains on the Madras Railway and that there may be links with Robert Stephenson.
regards
Maggie 360