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Kirkcudbrightshire / Re: Joseph Armistead
« on: Monday 20 September 10 11:23 BST (UK) »
Thanks Gadget
I didn't know about the NZ board that may be very useful to me
Cass
I didn't know about the NZ board that may be very useful to me
Cass
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Kirkcudbrightshire / Re: Joseph Armistead
« on: Monday 20 September 10 11:22 BST (UK) »
Here is a little more info about Wilson Armistead's side of the family.
Wilson married Mary Bragg in 1814 their children were Joseph John who married Sarah Hotham in 1873. Anthony Wilson who married Emma Chestine Kjoller after he had emigrated to NZ. Arthur Wilson who I know very little about. Mary Louisa who married George Allen in 1878 and Sarah Maria who confused me no end when she married Anthony William Wilson in 1875.
I have assumed that Arthur remained in Scotland running the Solway Fisheries in J J's abscence until Wilson Hotham took it over. I do not know how long the business remained in the Armistead family as the only thing I know about Wilson Hotham Armistead is that he was born in 1874 married Abigail Spencer Burtt in 1898 and invented a Salmon Fish Ladder, whether it was ever built anywhere I have no idea however it does look very much like the Salmon Ladder in Pitlochry.
I do not know JJ's 2nd son's birthday or what happend to him confusingly
also called Joseph John born in 1887 Scotland or of his sister Elizabeth H D E known as Ermyn born in 1890 Scotland
Cass
Wilson married Mary Bragg in 1814 their children were Joseph John who married Sarah Hotham in 1873. Anthony Wilson who married Emma Chestine Kjoller after he had emigrated to NZ. Arthur Wilson who I know very little about. Mary Louisa who married George Allen in 1878 and Sarah Maria who confused me no end when she married Anthony William Wilson in 1875.
I have assumed that Arthur remained in Scotland running the Solway Fisheries in J J's abscence until Wilson Hotham took it over. I do not know how long the business remained in the Armistead family as the only thing I know about Wilson Hotham Armistead is that he was born in 1874 married Abigail Spencer Burtt in 1898 and invented a Salmon Fish Ladder, whether it was ever built anywhere I have no idea however it does look very much like the Salmon Ladder in Pitlochry.
I do not know JJ's 2nd son's birthday or what happend to him confusingly
also called Joseph John born in 1887 Scotland or of his sister Elizabeth H D E known as Ermyn born in 1890 Scotland
Cass
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Kirkcudbrightshire / Re: Joseph Armistead
« on: Monday 20 September 10 11:08 BST (UK) »
William Armistead Sutcliffe was one of Kate Armistead's children. I know he was married in 1905 in Ormskirk and had changed his name to Burton by then.
Cass
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Kirkcudbrightshire / Re: Joseph Armistead
« on: Monday 20 September 10 10:46 BST (UK) »
Hi Gadget
You have been busy.
I have quite a lot of info already on Edward's side of the family. I know who most of the children married - Hannah married Frederick Beer and they had 5 children. Joseph born in USA married Eliza Anne Breckon they had 6 children. Kate married Edmund Molyneux Sutcliffe they had 7 children. Fanny died age 13. Charlotte Blanche married John Bannerman Kennedy they had 1 child. William i have been unable to trace. Florence Wilson married Frank Sternberg they had 2 children (turbulant marriage I believe) Edward I have been unable to trace. Thomas Webster married Florence Annie Costigan they had 2 children. Emily Gertrude I believe may have remained unmarried and died in 1916 but not absolutely certain. Reginald Walter married Amy Louisa Lloyd they had 2 children.
I would like to know a bit more about William Armistead Sutcliffe born in 1874 Birkenhead he apparently changed his name from Sutcliffe to Burton before his marriage to Mary Patchett and before emigrating to New Zealand. I have found evidence of this on the web as his second son was quite well know in N.Z. I do not know the name of his 1st child or any of the other children. I also do not know why he changed his name, I cannot find any reason why he should want to.
Elizabeth Sykes married Edward Armistead in Feb 1846 she died Jan 1847
Cass
You have been busy.
I have quite a lot of info already on Edward's side of the family. I know who most of the children married - Hannah married Frederick Beer and they had 5 children. Joseph born in USA married Eliza Anne Breckon they had 6 children. Kate married Edmund Molyneux Sutcliffe they had 7 children. Fanny died age 13. Charlotte Blanche married John Bannerman Kennedy they had 1 child. William i have been unable to trace. Florence Wilson married Frank Sternberg they had 2 children (turbulant marriage I believe) Edward I have been unable to trace. Thomas Webster married Florence Annie Costigan they had 2 children. Emily Gertrude I believe may have remained unmarried and died in 1916 but not absolutely certain. Reginald Walter married Amy Louisa Lloyd they had 2 children.
I would like to know a bit more about William Armistead Sutcliffe born in 1874 Birkenhead he apparently changed his name from Sutcliffe to Burton before his marriage to Mary Patchett and before emigrating to New Zealand. I have found evidence of this on the web as his second son was quite well know in N.Z. I do not know the name of his 1st child or any of the other children. I also do not know why he changed his name, I cannot find any reason why he should want to.
Elizabeth Sykes married Edward Armistead in Feb 1846 she died Jan 1847
Cass
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Kirkcudbrightshire / Re: Joseph Armistead
« on: Friday 17 September 10 11:39 BST (UK) »
Hi Gadget
I have just found out that Joel Cadbury was married to Sarah's older sister Maria so that would make her a Hotham before her marriage.
I would like to find out more about the other side of the Armistead family following down on Edward's side. (Wilson Armistead's brother). He had a huge family. His first wife appears to have died in childbirth having Hannah Sophia and he was remarried very quickly to Sarah Ann Webster, their first child, Joseph, was born 1949 in Cincinatti, Ohio but was classed as a British subject. His first wife Elizabeth Sykes was a minor on the marriage cert. (not sure what age this was but presumably under 18). Cannot trace her as there are loads in Leeds, her father was John and was a Clothier but that is all I know. Edward must have benefited from the sale of the family business (i.e. JJ and Arthur) which was not only mustard manufacturers but also brush manufacturers. Edward was retired by the age of 48. (Lucky him)
Cass2
I have just found out that Joel Cadbury was married to Sarah's older sister Maria so that would make her a Hotham before her marriage.
I would like to find out more about the other side of the Armistead family following down on Edward's side. (Wilson Armistead's brother). He had a huge family. His first wife appears to have died in childbirth having Hannah Sophia and he was remarried very quickly to Sarah Ann Webster, their first child, Joseph, was born 1949 in Cincinatti, Ohio but was classed as a British subject. His first wife Elizabeth Sykes was a minor on the marriage cert. (not sure what age this was but presumably under 18). Cannot trace her as there are loads in Leeds, her father was John and was a Clothier but that is all I know. Edward must have benefited from the sale of the family business (i.e. JJ and Arthur) which was not only mustard manufacturers but also brush manufacturers. Edward was retired by the age of 48. (Lucky him)
Cass2
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Kirkcudbrightshire / Re: Joseph Armistead
« on: Friday 17 September 10 11:08 BST (UK) »
Hi Gadget
It seems a very long and complicated story about the change of business. JJ's father Wilson was left the family business in Leeds but was more interested in abolishing slavery in the USA than taking care of business. Wilson died in 1868 and JJ together with his brother Arthur worked day and night to rebuild the business. However, JJ was only 20 and there was some complication with the will and everyone wanted their money back all at the same time so he decided to call it a day and sold up. The mustard business was sold to JJ Colman in Norfolk (Yes, that Colman's) and they moved lock stock and barrel to Scotland. He already had an interest in fish culture and had been running a successful business with a John Parnaby in Cumbria. JJ's fish business was very successful and tavelled all over the world. I have found mentions in Canada, USA, Ireland, Germany. He not only sold the eggs/fry but fishing equipment as weel. He also lectured in fish culture all over the world. He is an extremely interesting character.
Hope this helps you with helping me.
Cass2
It seems a very long and complicated story about the change of business. JJ's father Wilson was left the family business in Leeds but was more interested in abolishing slavery in the USA than taking care of business. Wilson died in 1868 and JJ together with his brother Arthur worked day and night to rebuild the business. However, JJ was only 20 and there was some complication with the will and everyone wanted their money back all at the same time so he decided to call it a day and sold up. The mustard business was sold to JJ Colman in Norfolk (Yes, that Colman's) and they moved lock stock and barrel to Scotland. He already had an interest in fish culture and had been running a successful business with a John Parnaby in Cumbria. JJ's fish business was very successful and tavelled all over the world. I have found mentions in Canada, USA, Ireland, Germany. He not only sold the eggs/fry but fishing equipment as weel. He also lectured in fish culture all over the world. He is an extremely interesting character.
Hope this helps you with helping me.
Cass2
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Kirkcudbrightshire / Re: Joseph Armistead
« on: Friday 17 September 10 10:44 BST (UK) »
Many thanks to all of you.
I have quite a bit of info on the family. JJ his wife Sarah and the 2 youngest children all went to Norway. The book Piloted is definitely them. Thanks for the marriage of Juanita as I did not have that. The youngest daughter Elizabeth HDE Armistead was known as Ermyn and I know she got married in Norway to someone named Nilsen but apart from that I have no info about her. The youngest son known as Mac went to America at some point to study theology with D.L. Moody in Chicago. I can find no trace of him after that. I am assuming that JJ and Sarah moved to Wells from Scotland as he had arthritis and it would be closer to his eldest daughter. Why the Solway Fisheries ceased to be I do not know. I have found evidence that his brother Arthur and then his son Wilson Hotham took over the business but have no idea what happened next.
I have quite a bit of info on the family. JJ his wife Sarah and the 2 youngest children all went to Norway. The book Piloted is definitely them. Thanks for the marriage of Juanita as I did not have that. The youngest daughter Elizabeth HDE Armistead was known as Ermyn and I know she got married in Norway to someone named Nilsen but apart from that I have no info about her. The youngest son known as Mac went to America at some point to study theology with D.L. Moody in Chicago. I can find no trace of him after that. I am assuming that JJ and Sarah moved to Wells from Scotland as he had arthritis and it would be closer to his eldest daughter. Why the Solway Fisheries ceased to be I do not know. I have found evidence that his brother Arthur and then his son Wilson Hotham took over the business but have no idea what happened next.
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Cheshire Completed Lookup Requests / Re: ARMISTEAD Look ups - Please
« on: Wednesday 15 September 10 11:50 BST (UK) »
Reginld Walter was the youngest of 11 children.
His parents were Edward Armistead b. 1823 Leeds, Yorkshire and
Sarah Ann Warton Harrison b. 1828 Leeds.
They were married in Leeds Q1. 1846
Sarah Ann's surname is in fact Webster not Warton Harrison. I also made this mistake in the beginning.
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Kirkcudbrightshire / Joseph Armistead
« on: Wednesday 15 September 10 11:48 BST (UK) »
I am trying to track down information about Joseph and his family after they moved from Leeds to Dumfries, specifically Solway Fisheries near New Abbey. The family were Quakers which makes things a little tricky.
Any help would be appreciated
Any help would be appreciated
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