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Oxfordshire / Re: Missing Parents.
« on: Friday 15 January 21 16:24 GMT (UK)  »
Where did they marry and precisely when.  Those details would help please.

Also can you list names of children of this marriage as a naming pattern might help with parentage.

Pheno

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South Africa / Re: Samuel Sawyer - b. 1739 Shoreditch (burial 16th Dec 1827]
« on: Friday 15 January 21 15:05 GMT (UK)  »
Yes if you have Ancestry access choose to search the London Metropolitan Archives and then choose the specific data collection for London C of E baptisms, marriages and burials 1538-1812.

Shoreditch is is the borough of Hackney, so if you choose that option on top right the next dropdown option will be St. Leonard's, Shoreditch which you can choose to browse.

Pheno

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The Stay Safe Board / Re: Diary - Wednesday 13th January
« on: Thursday 14 January 21 11:02 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you RTL and LM for your sympathy.  Perhaps you can understand why I was so incensed yesterday to read of lockdown breaches when my aunt was struggling in hospital.  Her, her partner (who did not live in) and her son (who lives with his own family in a different household) were all hospitalised with the infection in the first week of January.  My cousin is due to be discharged today having made a recovery, as you know my aunt died overnight and her partner died last week!

What a tragedy, which might have been prevented.  They did not socialise at christmas and did not put themselves at risk, but still they all caught it.  With hindsight it might have been a blessing if they had got together at christmas - it being their last.

I know the infection can be passed on in any number of ways (I know a lot of you are terrified at the thought of catching it from delivered groceries) but I cannot condone breaches of lockdown rules designed to keep everyone safe.

That's it - am too agitated to say any more, having said my piece, but I just hope that some, if not all, take it to heart and just think how you and yours might be affected.  Please take care.

Pheno

Modified in response to Viktoria's post whilst I was posting.  She has 2 sons, each with their own families and a twin sibling - with whom she shared a divided house - again with family so I would think that is probably the quota for funeral attendance.  Not at all sure I would venture into London to attend a covid funeral in the current climate, seeing as how I am in a vulnerable category too.  Thanks, for asking.

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The Stay Safe Board / Re: Diary - Wednesday 13th January
« on: Thursday 14 January 21 09:22 GMT (UK)  »
Have changed my mind and am going to contribute this morning.

Just to let you all know that my 86 year old aunt died from covid overnight.  Don't know where she picked it up but just hope it wasn't from someone stretching the rules.

Pheno

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The Stay Safe Board / Re: Diary > Tuesday 12th January
« on: Wednesday 13 January 21 19:08 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: Pheno on Wednesday 13 January 21 18:05 GMT (UK)

If I feel like saying anything else, or perhaps asking other RCers what they think I shall start a new topic.

Pheno

As I said and no won't join the diary.

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The Stay Safe Board / Re: Diary > Tuesday 12th January
« on: Wednesday 13 January 21 18:05 GMT (UK)  »
Ok I apologise for hijacking the diary thread - you are right and I should have copied and pasted your post to a new topic on the Stay Safe forum.  However the content remains the same.

None of us probably think we are doing anything wrong in any small covid breaches - however that probably applies to those committing large covid breaches too.  It just can't be one rule for little breaches and another for larger ones.  Laws/rules/regulations/guidelines apply to all of us and you think it nonsensical to point out breaches of those guidelines?

Neither am i making a personal attack, however an oft quoted message in the diary thread (and yes I have read them all) seems to me the ridicule etc of people who have breached rules i.e. those congregating on beaches, having house parties etc.  Just seems a bit hypocritical to me.  I very much doubt if anybody was endangered but this lockdown is extremely difficult for everybody, not just those on their own, who can form a bubble with someone else.

If I feel like saying anything else, or perhaps asking other RCers what they think I shall start a new topic.

Pheno

Added: Please see the article entitled 'Is Your Journey Really Necessary?' in the latest Lost Cousins newsletter in which the sentiment is expressed that he fully hopes, with 1 in 50 in the population having coronavirus, that people are not stretching the rules but stretching themselves.  That eloquently expresses my opinion and probably that of several others. (Sorry but not able to add link within copyright rules but I suspect as genealogists many of you read this publication).

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The Stay Safe Board / Re: Diary > Tuesday 12th January
« on: Wednesday 13 January 21 14:39 GMT (UK)  »
Nit picking to point out breaches of regulations?

Isn't that what we are encouraged to do - not that I am pointing it out to any Authorities'.

Its the little breaches that lead eventually to the big ones that you all dislike so much, or so you say.

Pheno

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The Stay Safe Board / Re: Diary > Tuesday 12th January
« on: Wednesday 13 January 21 14:19 GMT (UK)  »
Is it support or being caring to turn a blind eye when one disregards regulations I wonder? Wonder how many people who are shielding or extremely vulnerable are happy to learn of people disregarding guidelines designed to keep them safe.

Fine if everybody is happy to do it without any conscience but it cannot be one rule for people on a diary thread on a genealogical forum and another rule for everybody else.

What is the point of guidelines - why not let this thing run rife through the community until we build up herd immunity after so many thousands of people die.  This is essentially what ignoring guidelines will lead to and I, for one, will be extremely cross when thoughtlessness leads to unnecessary death.  I suspect lots of others, if asked, would be too.

If one walks twice a day what else will one do that might spread the virus - and I am not referencing anybody in particular here.

I simply want me and mine to be safe.

Pheno

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The Stay Safe Board / Re: Diary > Tuesday 12th January
« on: Wednesday 13 January 21 13:20 GMT (UK)  »
Why do we have these guidelines/regulations/laws other to try and help NHS capacity and to SAVE the LIVES of others.  If these guidelines have been put together by those qualified to do so then why do some think they know better.

If you get the call afterwards then you decline the invite surely (and surely don't post about it).

I haven't got a particular gripe against Roobarb but if she, as failry sensible and regulated I assume judging from her previous posts, thinks its ok just to do what she presumably knows she shouldn't do then why wouldn't everyone else.

As Cressida Dick said yesterday - its preposterous to think that there is anybody out there who doesn't know what the regulations are.

Pheno


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