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Hy I would just like to thank you all for your input for this search and a very big thank you especially to Bevbee and her Dad for all their help, absolute Stars!!! Their info was invaluable. 
Hy CaroleW i missed it the first time too, I have tried to find a marriage for Silverthorn / James HY caroleW forgot to say asked register office to check first childs birth year its 1893 Llandeilo HY caroleW forgot to say asked register office to check first childs birth year its 1893 Llandeilo Hy CaroleW On 1911 its says she,s from Leicester, I note from when she was born in Ashby de la Zouch They moved to Iron Acton her father died when he was 24. On the 1891 census it says she was married name James and her mother Jane Silverthorn was a widow. by 1893 she was in llandilo with Thomas Walker she died in 1917 aged 48 her children's birth certs say she was formally Silverthorn. I'm beginning to think that perhaps they were not married at all. Its a possability I suppose!
Hy Wilcoxon Maybe they were relations its such a puzzle. I did find a Marriage for an Elizabeth Hy Bevbee thanks for info on house, I wonder where they all slept? If it was a cottage it wouldve been small. Regards Romangirl.