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Lanarkshire / FRASER, John - Glasgow help
« on: Tuesday 23 April 24 21:43 BST (UK)  »
Hiya,

Going absolutely mental trying to trace someone. A John Fraser born in 1885 in Patrick in Glasgow.

Parents were Agnes B McLellan and James Fraser. Agnes died in 1901, she’s my 3rd great grandmother. James was dead before her. I know they had numerous sons but majority all died young apart from 3, James 1887, who married in 1917 but had no kids, Hugh in 1884 that married in 1945 and John 1885 who’s living with those two brothers and mother in 1901 in Glasgow. I can’t locate him and trying to see if he married and maybe moved away or if he had children.

Theres a mystery within the family of a woman born in 1941 in London and her father appears to be a distant relative. Unknown to her all her life. She’s now gone but her daughter is trying to figure it out. It’s a long shot but her mother was born in 1916 at the time of the second war she was in Somerset near an raf base and went back to London and was pregnant and had the baby in 1941. The dna match is small to me, but a lot closer to my great uncle saying 2-3rd cousin.

John Fraser was the half uncle of my great uncle. Who ever the father is I have a theory that the father is the grandson of Agnes McLellan as her daughter Sarah’s (mine) father did not marry or have kids as far as we are aware. He appears to die in 1891 unmarried in Dumbarton living with his mother after have Sarah in 1873 and listed as the father. It’s a long shot. But just trying to find out about John as his two brothers were old when married, and wives were past child baring ages, so was wondering if it could be John, could he have moved to England, or his son been in the war and crossed paths. His child would need to be born between 1904-1922. But I’m struggling to find him on the 1911 and 1921 census in Scotland or a marriage or death, where as the brothers have been found and living away and johns not there.

Any help would be amazing

Gary

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United States of America / Re: Rachel COOKE (COOK) birth c1859
« on: Sunday 18 February 24 14:34 GMT (UK)  »
OK so I have found daughter Mary Jane now. Dead 1870. Father is listed as dead too. But there is literally no deaths suitable at all for a James cook/e in Scotland between 30-50 that has died from 1865-1870. I've accessed all the ones available. Big waste of money, but it's looking like James didn't die in Scotland. Could he have went back to America and died and then the family came back afterwards. Just seems odd that in 5 years he can't be found in Scotland but could sign his mother in laws death cert in 65. He's always been a boilermaker as well.

And by the looks of it as well, Martha's sister Rachel had kids that died young like Martha. Her brother Matthew has vanished as well after signing his father's death cert in 1855 so possibly might not have had a family himself. And the only sibling left with her sister Margaret where I come from and Margaret's kids died young or had kids that then had dead young kids. I've managed to make it through lol so I'm very much alone in researching haha do don't even get leads from ither trees or dna

Gary


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United States of America / Re: Rachel COOKE (COOK) birth c1859
« on: Sunday 18 February 24 14:22 GMT (UK)  »
On the marriage it says they lived in Glasgow but married bridge of weir in Renfrew.

He is 24 and born in derry Ireland. She's 26 born in ballymoney, Antrim. Ireland. Both parents are alive John docherty and Rachel Gillespie and John Cooke and Mary Jane Craig.

Seeing now both daughter were named after the grandmother's. But Mary Jane the daughter does not appear to be back in Scotland.

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United States of America / Re: Rachel COOKE (COOK) birth c1859
« on: Saturday 17 February 24 04:26 GMT (UK)  »
Martha was born in Antrim, Ireland. The dates vary. I have a birth for her in 1825 on Ancestry but records are going to sometimes 1835.

Not sure about James as I cant find him on a census anywhere in Scotland. Can't even find his death. He's dead by 1891 but Alice in 1865 when he signed his mother in laws death cert.

I have found them though now in America in 1860. James was a boilermaker and Martha is listed as born in Scotland.

They also have another daughter Mary Jane born Oct 31st 1856 in Glasgow Scotland, but yet again. She's not there in 1871 with the family and has vanished. If she's died in America I don't know where other than they ate listed in Missouri on the census return from 1860

Martha's brother Matthew is also missing in Scotland. He is there in 1855 to sign their dad's death cert. But there's no marriage or death or even census records for him. He's 23 in 1855 and thought perhaps he's moved to America and that's why Martha has went over. He was born in Ireland too and in 1851 he's not on the census in Scotland

Gary

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United States of America / Rachel COOKE (COOK) birth c1859
« on: Saturday 17 February 24 01:08 GMT (UK)  »
Hiya.

Trying my best to try find her but needing help.

I'm looking for the birth of a Rachel Cook somewhere in America about 1859. Parents are James Thomas Cooke (Cook) and Martha Docherty (surname varies ALOT).

James and Martha married in 1855 in Renfrew, Scotland. Then they vanish and then they appear back in Scotland 1864 for the birth of another child back in Renfrew. In 1871 Martha is with Rachel and her boys, a widow and Rachel is only listed as being born in America.

Rachel died in 1876 aged 17 and in 1871 she's aged 12.

If anyone can help find the birth and family that would be great!

Gary

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Ireland / Re: John C Aird mystery death
« on: Wednesday 26 July 23 16:17 BST (UK)  »
His mum Catherine “Kate” died in 1939 in Hamilton, she remained unmarried and I don’t believe she had anymore children.

His father David was born in 1886 and died in 1948 both in Hamilton, his parents were Charles and Agnes Burns.

Catherine’s family came from Donegal and Leitrim and David I believe were Scottish. I know she lived with her own uncle and his family and was buried with them, the Daisleys, all in Hamilton too. She’d been living with them since the early 1900s after her mother died and father remarried and moved away with his new wife

My uncle said he was Aird cause he’d never heard that second name before within the family and it stuck, I can’t remember if he was even married. I will try pick at my aunts brain and see if she can remember anything

Gary

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Ireland / John C Aird mystery death
« on: Wednesday 26 July 23 04:40 BST (UK)  »
Hiya,

I was wondering if someone could help me find the death or someone. Very little is known about him.

John Charles Aird born May 29th 1921 Hamilton, Scotland

Parents were Catherine Devine and David Aird, unmarried. John is with Catherine and her cousins family in the census in Hamilton.

I’m trying to find out what happened to him. We know he died because many many years ago my great uncle told me he had received a letter from a lawyer and it was from Ireland to say John had died and had left some money to him, my uncle had no idea this man even existed, no one seems to have any information on him, I can only imagine it was maybe the 90s as I had this conversation in the late 2000s

Any help would be great, unfortunately I can’t really give much more detail as my uncle is now deceased and my own aunts and uncles haven’t a clue what I’m talking about

Gary

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Ireland / Re: Elder of Derry
« on: Friday 23 April 21 18:29 BST (UK)  »
Does it say what ship he come over on?

Gary

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Ireland / Re: Elder of Derry
« on: Friday 23 April 21 18:28 BST (UK)  »
That’s them! Thank you very much

The family are at 23 new north queen in 1911. So it’s all adding up now!

So roberts left after his wife’s death back to Ireland than went to America. This Elder family sure do get about lol

Gary

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