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Hi George,
 I know your original post was a long time ago, but I was wondering if you got any further with your enquiries regarding John Trevaskis and Esther. I believe her surname was Boyn, born in Scotland. Their second son was named William Boyn Trevaskis.
I believe Esther's grandparents were John Boyn and Jean Elmslie from Aberdeen. There was quite a Boyn clan in London at the time, who touched some pretty high circles, with one of them marrying an illegitimate half-brother of Queen Victoria.
I too cannot find a marriage for the couple, nor a baptism for Esther.
Also, if you don't mind sharing, could you please explain why you suspected John was born in Plymouth. And did you turn up any further information when you did some onsite research?
Many thanks, and if I can help you with any research, please let me know.

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: DNA match anomaly
« on: Wednesday 11 January 23 09:34 GMT (UK)  »
Hi,
Thanks for that elaboration.
As to whether those four matches are significant, I don't yet know.

I have a very stubborn brick wall  on my mother's maternal side, with matches indicating there may have been some fudging regarding surnames when our convict ancestors were banished to Australia.
Definitely a work in progress, so any "anomalies" are always intriguing -are they a lead, or just a red herring!

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: DNA match anomaly
« on: Monday 09 January 23 09:20 GMT (UK)  »
Wow, thankyou all for your replies. I will have to work through them all and see if any of your suggestions apply to my strange case.

I have initially picked up this anomaly with these four cases, who are actually in pairs

With regard to phil57's comments, here are the details:

RS and CS are related. Looks like UK Tree.
My matches with RS and CS are 23(unweighted 24) and 20 (uw25)
My Mum's matches are 16 (uw17) and 16 (uw19).

The second pair are TS and JT. They are also likely related (?siblings). Tree is USA.
My matches are: TS 22 (uw22) and JT 20 (uw22)
My Mum's are: TS 9 (uw9) and JT no match.

So in all cases, even the unweighted amounts are greater in my matches than my Mum's.

In Mum's matches, the RS\TS pair are Maternal, and TS is Paternal
In my matches, all four are unassigned.

I have no evidence to suggest that these two sets of pairs are related to each other, which means that there are two separate examples where I have more DNA than my Mum from the same matches.

With regard to imputation, my memory is a bit dodgy but I am assuming that my test was after 2016, and Mum's was only a year or so ago. So that seems to discount the chip theory.

There may be more examples, but I have only just discovered these ones so can't say if it occurs frequently. I intend to look deeper into their trees, and see if my parents' ancestors do cross over somewhere in the past. 

I should add that I also have a couple of matches (not the above examples) which are matching to both my paternal and maternal lines. I am assuming that this might have occurred here in Australia in the 1800's when our population was relatively small. The various gold-rushes drew thousands of people in from the UK and the USA. But that's a puzzle for another day.....

Thanks again for all the responses, they are appreciated!










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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / DNA match anomaly
« on: Saturday 07 January 23 08:45 GMT (UK)  »
Hi,
I have noticed that I have several instances where a match on Ancestry DNA matches both my Mum and myself, but the amounts we match are reversed -that is, I share more DNA with the match than my mother does with the same match.
I have assumed that this means the match must be on both my paternal and maternal ancestral lines, and perhaps the lines linked up a generation or two further back on my mother's line than my father's.
Is this a correct assumption, or am I missing something here with regards to this anomaly?
Any advice will be most welcome!

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Hi all,
Well, I have woken this morning to find that the Common Ancestors have returned for all my cousins' accounts.
I think that the Ancestry system must have at last caught up with the fact that my Tree was Private Unsearchable after all these months, and turned off the Common Ancestors facility. I changed it the other day,  to Private Searchable.
It has only taken a few days for the Common Ancestors to be restored -maybe because all the algorithmic work had already been done and only had to be restored.
Anyway, all good now, and happy to have it all back to normal!

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Thanks for the replies.
But I still fail to see why this has suddenly stopped working, when I have been using the "Common Ancestors" feature for a year or more with this unsearchable private tree.

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The Lighter Side / Re: Bridal pregnancies?
« on: Sunday 07 February 21 07:52 GMT (UK)  »
Well, my grandparents really left their marriage to the last minute!
 
The marriage was held in London the day before their first son was born. Husband was son of a well-to-do family from Brighton. Wife was a lowly shop-girl working in the family Department Store.

I think the boss had dismissed her, and she had gone up to live in central London. Her own family came from North London.

I have a distinct image in my mind of bride's father standing beside them with a shot-gun, making sure hubby didn't do a bolt at the altar, and leave his daughter and her family in total shame.

As it was, hubby and his new wife and newborn baby were banished to the colonies (Australia) by his father, within three months of the birth. They cut him off almost completely.

It was a very hard life for Grandma, as it was in the middle of the depression, and there was no work to be had in the city. He would be away for months at time, leaving her to look after their family of now four children on the meagre funds he was able to send back to her. I have a letter from him to Grandma, asking for her to send him some shirts and pyjamas, as the work crew were living in tents in the cold winter months.

Sadly Grandfather died only 11 years after emigrating, and poor Grandma was stranded here with no means of support and no family here to help her. I remember Dad telling us that she used to take in washing, and also got off the tram one stop early so she could save a ha'penny to spend on her children. There was lots of tales of eating tripe, brains and lambs fry for dinner, and of course bread with dripping. 

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Ancestry DNA "Common Ancestors" have disappeared
« on: Sunday 07 February 21 06:23 GMT (UK)  »
Hi,
I am using Ancestry DNA to build a speculative tree to find birth parents of a relative. I have built a tree using the Shared Matches information. Since I began, I have always had a list of Common Ancestors for the five cousins whose DNA I am tracking. They have all been attached to this speculative tree.

For some reason the "Common Ancestors" tab is no longer working, and they also do not appear in the list of matches, where previously they were shown. This applies to all five cousins.

However, my own DNA matches and also my husband's are still showing the Common Ancestors, and the toolbar tab is still working.

Because the tree was speculative, I had it set at locked and unsearchable -I didn't want anyone to start copying what was not documented fact. I have now changed it to locked and searchable, to see if this is causing the problem, but this did not make the Common Ancestors reappear.

Does anyone have any ideas on this problem? Is Ancestry doing work on the Common Ancestors tool?
Thanks for any help, it is very frustrating not being able to use it.

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The Common Room / Re: Familial terms used in a Will in 1607
« on: Friday 05 February 21 06:32 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Annie,
Yes, those tombs are really something....
I am sure there was a very sensible convention back in the 1600’s to depict their beloved dead in this way, but to our modern eyes it looks like “I might be dead, but a dead knight is still sexy..”.  Do I detect a “come hither, no woman can resist me?” glint in their eyes?

I have been chasing through the 1500-1600’s for the first time in my 20 years in genealogy. Being from convict stock (i.e. Australian Royalty) and Irish roots, there was never a chance that I would find anyone higher up the social ladder than a yeoman farmer.

But some good friends have decided to go down the AncestryDNA family research path, and I have been helping them to get started. They asked me to print out a Tree chart for them to document their progress so far. So I put their gedcom file into my FTD and printed them. Then I noticed that in the list of people was a 7th Baron someone or other, and when I checked, my friend has copied someone’s Ancestry Tree all the way back to the Nevilles in 1100, with all the royal connections attached to that and other prominent families.

Well, I couldn’t let that go unchallenged! Especially as that line of his family came out to Hobart in a convict transport!

Anyway, long story short, I have been working both ends of that line, firming up ancestors from the convict bacwards, and from the Nevilles forwards. Hence my run-in with the Pagetts, who supposedly married into the Throckmortons. There are some very fuzzy “facts” out there, even amongst some supposedly reputable biographies etc.

One that really has me stumped is to do with Sir William Paget 1st Lord Beaudesert, and his family. Various sources name his father as John Pagett, and mother as Joone Bankes. But there is a 1560 marriage record in London for a marriage of William Paget to Joone Bankes.....very confusing! And of course there are many trees on Ancestry who have therefore renamed John Paget as William John Paget, and attached that wedding to John and Joone.........never mind the fact that Joone was dead by 1529......

So I am on a relentless and probably pointless journey learning to transcribe medieval Wills, hoping for a few scraps of truth to join up all these dots. Where money was concerned, families tend to get the details of their relationships correct -no-one wants horrible Aunt Ethel to falsely claim your daughter’s entitlements!

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