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Messages - Pat Hase

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Somerset / Re: Matthew LONG 1804-1878
« on: Thursday 27 April 23 23:17 BST (UK)  »
You've all given me a lot to think about.  Thank you. 
As neither James LONG nor his wife Elizabeth were born in Somerset (according to 1841 census of Weston, Bath) probably the baptisms in Freshford and Newton St Loe may not be possible.   
I'm interested in the marriage of James LONG and Elizabeth TOVEY at St John the Baptist, Bedminster - I've looked at that before - Both signed their names and their witnesses were John & Mary EDWARDS who were not regular witnesses so may have some connection with the family.
I have sent for a copy of the Will of James LONG from Weston - it's at the Somerset Archives although I doubt it will give any information about his parents.
Not sure how that baptism of Matthew's at St Paul's Church Portland Square, Bristol got to mention Argyle Chapel - I can't see that on the image of the entry. Perhaps I'm looking in the wrong place.

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Somerset / Re: Matthew LONG 1804-1878
« on: Thursday 27 April 23 11:52 BST (UK)  »
Thank you for the information about Sarah LONG in America with her daughter - I hadn't picked that up.
I have a copy of a transcription of the baptisms of the Argyle Chapel but can't find Matthew LONG in it although his sister Hester was christened there in 1811 - I would agree that it is possible that he was christened in Bristol which has been suggested.  I think his other siblings James and Elizabeth were baptised in the Penn Street Calvinistic Chapel in Bristol not in the Argyle Chapel in Bath (unless these chapels were in the same circuit and connected in some way).  He's proving quite a mystery - thanks for all your help. 
In the Bath Chronicle of 5th Jan 1837 this announcement was under deaths
"Jan. 1, at her residence, No. 9, Upper Camden place, Anne Eliza, second daughter of Mr. Matthew Long."  perhaps I'm reading too much into the wording but why put "at her residence" and no mention of her mother? She was only 5 years old.

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Somerset / Re: Matthew LONG 1804-1878
« on: Wednesday 26 April 23 23:58 BST (UK)  »
Thank you for replying 
I haven't found Matthew LONG on any census.  Have just discovered that his daughter, Sarah Jane, died in Boston Mass, in 1911 having married an Abram BANTA.  Her death certificate gives her parents as Matthew LONG and Sarah CLIFF [sic] both of Bath.
I don't think that the James & Sarah LONG in Swainswick are connected to this family.  The James & Elizabeth LONG in Weston in 1841 were both dead by 1851.  James in July 1850 and Elizabeth in Sept 1846. Matthew and several of his siblings were buried by the Argyle Independent Church at their Snow Hill Burial Ground, Grateful for any help finding what happened to Matthew and where his father was born.  Thank you

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Somerset / Matthew LONG 1804-1878
« on: Wednesday 26 April 23 19:19 BST (UK)  »
Can  anyone find out anything about a Matthew LONG, "Gentleman", aged 74, who died in Bath on the 18th Nov 1878 at 8 St Mary's Buildings.  The informant was his niece Emma Elizabeth EDGECUMBE and I believe that address was where Emma's mother, Elizabeth EDGECUMBE nee LONG, Matthew's sister, was living.  Another brother was a James LONG who was a Hairdresser in Bath. Their parents were James & Elizabeth LONG who in 1841 were living in Weston, Bath.  I think that Matthew married a Sarah CLIFT but know very little of his life or where he lived. Would love to know more and where his father, James LONG was born.  Thank you.

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London and Middlesex / Re: George WINGRAVE - 1811 - ?
« on: Thursday 16 March 23 16:34 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you for that - All sounds very possible.  I'm sure I came across the surname FOX when I was looking for George but can't remember where!  The was an Arthur Wingrave FOX but he's probably a red herring!  I'm grateful for the tip.  I'm very wary of Ancestry Trees as a rule but this does seem likely.  Thank you.

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London and Middlesex / George WINGRAVE - 1811 - ?
« on: Thursday 16 March 23 14:34 GMT (UK)  »
George WINGRAVE was born in Middlesex about 1811 - his father was Joseph WINGRAVE and they were Oil and Italian Warehousemen.  George married Sarah PRIMER at Cheltenham in 1845 and they had 3 daughters by the 1851 census when they were living in Fleet Street, St Bride.  Sarah died later in 1851 and by the 1861 census the 3 daughters are living in Cheltenham with their maternal grandfather David PRIMER and are entered with the surname PRIMER.  My question is "What happened to George WINGRAVE?

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Wiltshire / Re: Mary Louisa Kate JONES - born Chippenham 1864
« on: Friday 27 January 23 01:33 GMT (UK)  »
This is the entry on the Free GRO Index   https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/indexes_search.asp


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Wiltshire / Mary Louisa Kate JONES - born Chippenham 1864
« on: Thursday 26 January 23 22:14 GMT (UK)  »
When this birth was registered the Registration District is given as "OF CHIPPENHAM" on the GRO Index - what does the "OF" mean?
Mary Louisa Kate was the daughter of David JONES and Sarah ELLY who were married in Bath in 1860 and appear on the Chippenham Census of 1861.  By 1971 they were living in Gloucester but had two children born in Bristol in 1865 and 1867.  I can find no trace of Mary Louisa Kate after her birth.  There is a death of a young Mary JONES in "OF CHIPPENHAM" registered in the Dec qrt 1865 but the birth of a Sarah Maria JONES was registered in Bristol (mmn ELLY)in the Sept qrt 1865 makes this seems unlikely. Can anyone help? Thank you.

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Gloucestershire / Re: Burials in Gloucester
« on: Tuesday 24 January 23 20:05 GMT (UK)  »
Hi tillyc.   Many Thanks!   Pat

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