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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Family Peram or Perram or Perham
« on: Monday 21 February 11 22:06 GMT (UK)  »
Many thanks for your help Ladyhawk.
I still have a problem with my granddad Luke Perram, later Perham.
The 1841 census apparently has him down as David. not Luke. Right age.
Am thinking of going to Kew and see if I can find the enumerator's written entry,
not some Mormon transcript.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Family Peram or Perram or Perham
« on: Monday 21 February 11 17:44 GMT (UK)  »
Have since made contact with Denis Hampton who lives in NZ.
He has done a lot of research on the Perhams.
They sailed from London on Arab - listed as Bounty immigrants - and arrived at Launceston on March 31st, 1842.
So that solves that problem.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Family Peram or Perram or Perham
« on: Monday 13 December 10 16:36 GMT (UK)  »
Hello Ladyhawk,

And I thought I had closure on Ashcott!

The link you've kindly given is most intriguing.

Someone named D K Hampton complied a family tree concentrating on my great-uncle William back in Nov 1980.

He/she shows that Giles' parents were John Periam ca1759-1830 and Mary Meaker - married 1796. Giles' wife Catherine Bennett's parents were William Bennett & Mary Pollett - married in 1776.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Family Peram or Perram or Perham
« on: Monday 13 December 10 10:23 GMT (UK)  »
Dear Ladyhawk,

Thanks very much for giving me the FreeBMD address.
Bridgwater is the BMD District which includes Ashcott so Giles & Catherine would have stayed put in Ashcott after Thomas & Co flitted to Tasmania. Thomas's elder sister Eliza stayed as far as I can gather. I have no information on any other offspring that they may have had.

I now think I have all the info I need to build a pictorial family tree which will finish up as a book.
My mother's side, Bells from Scotland, who went to NZ from Liverpool by way of Adelaide, Hobart & Sydney, finally landing at Wellington (Port Nicholson) in 1840. has been well researched (fortunately).

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Family Peram or Perram or Perham
« on: Saturday 11 December 10 17:28 GMT (UK)  »
Dear Ladyhawk,

Thanks for putting me straight - Giles & Catherine are the parents of Thomas. So they moved to Bridgwater.

I can't cope with these alternate spellings. As for Perham. I've spent so much of my life spelling it.

It's too late at my age to change to Peram or Perram.

And as for the Tassie authorities changing the birth etc dates to when they got there!

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Family Peram or Perram or Perham
« on: Saturday 11 December 10 12:05 GMT (UK)  »
As a PS - So much for the 1841 census! I thought I'd check on it and the 1851 one as well.

Thomas Peram's parents, alive at the time and living in Ashcott, Somerset presumably, were also not recorded.
They were still alive for the 1851 census, hadn't left the country so still at Ashcott, are not recorded in that either!

Lies, Damn Lies and Statistics.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Family Peram or Perram or Perham
« on: Friday 10 December 10 15:45 GMT (UK)  »
Dear Ladyhawk,

Many thanks again for your help.
Looking at the entries for the vessels that arrived in Launceston, none that I have seen have the emigrants/steerage passengers listed.
So I think I'll give up on this and accept that someone in the past somehow got the name of the vessel - Arab - and the year - 1842. And also that the family somehow got missed in the 1841 census unless I've got that wrong
So I'll take the departure of Arab from London 07 Nov 1841 with 104 passengers and 198 immigrants and 5 births & 3 deaths, arrival at Launceston  30/31 Mar/01 Apr 1842 as the most likely and accept it. It fits well.
Back in the 80s when I was spending time in Tasmania, I remember looking at the Tasmania phone directory and not finding even one Perham listed - all had flitted to NZ or the Mainland. I know how my grandfather Luke got to NZ in 1859 - it's recounted in Maurice Shadbolt's book "One of Ben's - A Tribe Transported".
Thanks again for your help. Much appreciated.

Don Perham

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Family Peram or Perram or Perham
« on: Friday 10 December 10 14:12 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Janet,

Charlotte was born in Tasmania, child no. 8 of Thomas & Eliza. My grandfather Luke was no. 4 born at Ashcott, Somerset, April 1837. This is the line I am focused on.

Back in June 2005 when I last got interested, I found a thread by Loren Boyd of Victoria - email at the time (*) - and in it she says that Charlotte was her great-grandmother. born/baptised Little Hampton, Longford, Tas. 23 Dec 1845, died 15 July 1930 Hawera, NZ. (at about the same as my age!).

Would you please pass this info on to Joan.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Family Peram or Perram or Perham
« on: Friday 10 December 10 09:54 GMT (UK)  »
Many thanks Ladyhawk.
I may be barking up the wrong tree.
Previous work by others interested in Perham history, gave me Arab but also gave the year for the Launceston arrival as 1842.
When I checked the 1841 census and found no trace, I thought they must have left earlier so finding that the Launceston Courier recorded the arrival, stay and departure of barque Arab during the early part of 1841, I thought that that must have been the one.
Ozships doesn't list Arab for this nor that I can find for another visit to Launceston in 1842.
What is the link to the left that you give? UK National Archives? I live in Croydon (South London) so could go there if they have passenger lists or anything else that would be useful to pin this down.

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