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Dumfriesshire / Re: Grapes Inn, Whitesands 1877
« on: Wednesday 24 August 22 10:51 BST (UK)  »
A late reply  :)
Thanks for the information. As you may know there are several pubs/inns adjacent to Whitesands. Would you know the name of the pub that stands there now (2022)? I've found it difficult to work out the exact location. My best guess is where The World's End pub is (27-29 White Sands, Dumfries, Dumfries and Galloway, DG1 2RR).

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Dumfriesshire / Re: Joseph McHolm - Death Record
« on: Wednesday 24 August 22 10:36 BST (UK)  »
This is a very late reply  :)
Do you have information as to where any of the family members are buried?

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Dumfriesshire / Re: Grapes Inn, Whitesands 1877
« on: Sunday 23 October 16 23:26 BST (UK)  »
Hi, yes I would be interested in the information you have. I think you may have to "private message" (PM) me, as email names are filtered out.
Thanks.

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Dumfriesshire / Re: Joseph McHolm - Death Record
« on: Sunday 08 November 15 22:56 GMT (UK)  »
Just to clarify the death of Joseph McHolme was 1878 not 1892.

On the death certificate it states the following:
Profession: Cattle Dealer
When and where died: 16 Bridge Street, Dumfries. 1878 (It does give a date but difficult to determine.....I would guess at August eighteenth).
Age: 63
Name of father & mother:
James McHolme, Cattle Dealer (deceased)
Margaret McHolme (deceased)
Further information: 16 Bridge Street was a public house (I think it still is - but a different name) by the name of The Grapes Inn. Bridge Street flanks the river Nith in Dumfries and is now called Whitesands. If you look at old pictures it shows cattle on this area. I imagine that cattle dealing was going on here. I also know that Joseph McHolme previously had a farm (Woodhead) in Troqueer and was born in Co. Antrim in 1817.
From what I know he had at least 7 children (4 boys 3 girls). Jane Clark McHolm(e) one of his daughters was my great grand mother who married Michael Barbour at the Grapes Inn (how strange was that!) on the 18th October 1877. They moved to Wigan. Lancashire as Michael Barbour made a living as a draper.

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Dumfriesshire / Re: Joseph McHolm - Death Record
« on: Friday 06 November 15 19:38 GMT (UK)  »
Hi mlmcholm,
I'm not sure if you noticed but Ev posted in this thread that Joseph McHolm died in 1878. Although I haven't found anything to confirm this, so not sure where Ev sourced that information.

It's interesting to see that you say the following:

I have reason to believe he was one of 6 sons, mother Margaret, father James and died in 1892.

I haven't been able to find his parents names and/or siblings.

I would be interested to hear more from you on this.

Thanks.

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Lancashire / Re: Mining Disasters St Helens
« on: Wednesday 17 August 11 09:56 BST (UK)  »
Thanks for the information. The year of the disaster and location sound like this would be good for me to explore. I called the archives department at St Helens Central Library to check if they keep records of the mining disasters. I was advised to search through the newspaper articles for further information.

You wouldn't happen to know the date the disaster occurred at Sutton Manor in 1915, would you? I did a search on google, but this didn't help. It could save me some time searching through the archives.

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Lancashire / Re: Mining Disasters St Helens
« on: Tuesday 16 August 11 09:55 BST (UK)  »
Thanks for all the replies. Is it possible to look up employee lists for the collieries to check which pit he worked at?

He lived at Powell Street, Sutton, St Helens in 1911 aged 17. At this time he was a Wagon Hut Repairer at the railway along with his two brothers (aged 21 & 15). His father was a coal miner and presumably he became a coal miner during the next few years . He was married in 1916 where it stated on his marriage certificate that he was a coal miner. However, he later moved to the Manchester area circa 1923 to get away from coal mining.

His name is Joseph Gill, son of Edward Gill.

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Lancashire / Mining Disasters St Helens
« on: Saturday 13 August 11 07:58 BST (UK)  »
I'm looking for some help researching mining disasters in the St Helens area. My grandfather was trapped in a mining incident circa (1915-1920), but I don't know which colliery. I'm looking for records of incidents that occurred around this timeframe. I have been told that at least one person died in the incident, but unfortunately I don't have any more details.

So, I guess I would need to know where these records are available and the people recorded as survivors/injured/deceased.

Thanks.

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Dumfriesshire / Re: Look up offer Kirkmahoe OPR Burials
« on: Sunday 17 July 11 23:53 BST (UK)  »
Hi Tom,

Thanks for your post and I appreciate the information. It's about 3 years since I was in the area and yes there was a significant lean of William Barbour's gravestone.

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