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Europe / Re: Help finding details of emmigration from Poland to England 1845-1855
« on: Saturday 05 September 20 01:09 BST (UK) »
Thanks, Rena.
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Europe / Re: Help finding details of emmigration from Poland to England 1845-1855
« on: Friday 04 September 20 22:50 BST (UK) »Are there any school records you could try for the daughter?
That's a good hint, thanks. I'll see what I can find out about schools near where the family resided.
Jason
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Europe / Re: Help finding details of emmigration from Poland to England 1845-1855
« on: Friday 04 September 20 22:46 BST (UK) »Unfortunately, there are no consolidated immigration records or passenger lists held in the UK for this period.
Alien arrivals were recorded under the provisions of the Aliens Act 1836, and the relatively few surviving lists and certificates are on Ancestry (England, Alien Arrivals, 1810-1811, 1826-1869). They are not ‘complete’ in any sense, relatively few first names are given, and it can be hard to identify people.
The Hamburg Passenger lists start in 1850, for passengers sailing from Hamburg for the UK and (mainly) the USA. These are in German, the early ones are hard to read and are heavily mistranscribed by Ancestry (Hamburg Passenger Lists, 1850-1934).
Is yours the family in Birmingham in 1861?
Yes, the family ended up in Birmingham and the earliest record I have is the 1861 Census.
Ancestry.com has been helpful from that point on in their timeline but the trail goes cold prior. The most I have been able to find so far are two potential births for Israel SOLOMON in the Jewish Records Indexing Project but my knowledge of Prussian geography has me baffled about which, if either, is his.
My grandmother related that her ancestors were "Jewish gypsies that roamed around Poland" so I fear that finding more will be impossible. I will have a harder look in the two sources you mentioned, though.
Thank you for the hints.
Jason
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Europe / Help finding details of emmigration from Poland to England 1845-1855
« on: Friday 04 September 20 16:24 BST (UK) »
Hi all!
I have ancestors that emmigrated from Poland/Prussia to England some time between 1845 and 1855.
I am looking find details of their passage to England. Are there online resources that might help find more specific dates and routes? Passenger lists? Immigration records?
The people in question are:
SOLOMON, Israel born about 1825
SOLOMON, Rosina, born about 1822, his wife
SOLOMON, Dinah Miriam, born about 1847, his daughter
Thank you for any help you can offer!
Jason
I have ancestors that emmigrated from Poland/Prussia to England some time between 1845 and 1855.
I am looking find details of their passage to England. Are there online resources that might help find more specific dates and routes? Passenger lists? Immigration records?
The people in question are:
SOLOMON, Israel born about 1825
SOLOMON, Rosina, born about 1822, his wife
SOLOMON, Dinah Miriam, born about 1847, his daughter
Thank you for any help you can offer!
Jason
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England / Re: DUTTON family / PHILLIPS family connection? pre-1800 Worcestershire
« on: Friday 11 February 11 10:11 GMT (UK) »
For the benefit of future researchers, the mother's name hunch was correct:
John PHILLIPS (c1810-c1840) m. Mary DUTTON (c1800-?) at St Thomas, Dudley, Worcestershire on 28 Aug 1827.
Jason
John PHILLIPS (c1810-c1840) m. Mary DUTTON (c1800-?) at St Thomas, Dudley, Worcestershire on 28 Aug 1827.
Jason
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Worcestershire / Re: Help with John Dutton PHILIPS/PHILLIPS c.1836
« on: Thursday 10 February 11 14:02 GMT (UK) »
Hey!
Dave, another gem! But how sad...
It seems that my Phillipses where around Dudley and certainly in Worcester for some time. Would you mind sharing your list of top tips for helping find other C19th and C18th ancestors from that region?
Thanks very much, mate!
Jason
Dave, another gem! But how sad...
It seems that my Phillipses where around Dudley and certainly in Worcester for some time. Would you mind sharing your list of top tips for helping find other C19th and C18th ancestors from that region?
Thanks very much, mate!
Jason
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Worcestershire / Re: Help with John Dutton PHILIPS/PHILLIPS c.1836
« on: Wednesday 09 February 11 23:15 GMT (UK) »
Hey!
Thank you Dave. That's very interesting and fits it nicely. Do you regularly use the London Gazette as a research source? It seems to my untrained self to be a random nugget of info to come to light...
Jason
Thank you Dave. That's very interesting and fits it nicely. Do you regularly use the London Gazette as a research source? It seems to my untrained self to be a random nugget of info to come to light...
Jason
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Worcestershire / Re: Help with John Dutton PHILIPS/PHILLIPS c.1836
« on: Wednesday 09 February 11 16:44 GMT (UK) »
Hey!
Oh, Rambler, that fits perfectly! You're brilliant! Thank you!
It keeps the double-el spelling of their name constant. It makes Thomas his older brother and a perfect substitute for his deceased father John at the wedding to Ruth. His occupation is constant through the censuses. And his mother runs a pub. Lovely!
It also lets this mystery "Sarah" off the hook in relation to double-dipping from the same gene pool... :-)
So now I go looking for marriage records for John Phillips and Mary in Worcestershire c1835, and perhaps even a death certificate for John.
Thanks again for such stellar work!
Jason
Oh, Rambler, that fits perfectly! You're brilliant! Thank you!
It keeps the double-el spelling of their name constant. It makes Thomas his older brother and a perfect substitute for his deceased father John at the wedding to Ruth. His occupation is constant through the censuses. And his mother runs a pub. Lovely!
It also lets this mystery "Sarah" off the hook in relation to double-dipping from the same gene pool... :-)
So now I go looking for marriage records for John Phillips and Mary in Worcestershire c1835, and perhaps even a death certificate for John.
Thanks again for such stellar work!
Jason
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England / DUTTON family / PHILLIPS family connection? pre-1800 Worcestershire
« on: Wednesday 09 February 11 04:30 GMT (UK) »
Hi!
I have an ancestor John Dutton Phillips born 1835 and baptised at St Thomas, Dudley. His father was John Phillips (a gardener/agricultural labourer) [edit: new information] and his mother was Mary (a publican). Census records show them all to be born in Worcestershire.
I am having trouble tracking down more information on John Dutton Phillips' line and it's occurred to me that perhaps the "Dutton" comes from his mother, or either grandmother's name.
Does anyone have any information on a circa/pre1800 link between the Phillips and Dutton families?
Thanks so much!
Jason
[edited to replace incorrect information]
I have an ancestor John Dutton Phillips born 1835 and baptised at St Thomas, Dudley. His father was John Phillips (a gardener/agricultural labourer) [edit: new information] and his mother was Mary (a publican). Census records show them all to be born in Worcestershire.
I am having trouble tracking down more information on John Dutton Phillips' line and it's occurred to me that perhaps the "Dutton" comes from his mother, or either grandmother's name.
Does anyone have any information on a circa/pre1800 link between the Phillips and Dutton families?
Thanks so much!
Jason
[edited to replace incorrect information]
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